The Taliban will ‘never be defeated’

[Icarus]

Simply, it's a fight that they cannot win, all logic dictates that they won't.
1) No public support
2) No way to acquire new weapons/ammo, their resrves will run out eventually.
3) They will run out of people but behind ANA, PA and ISAF stand populations of millions eager to replace each fallen comrade.

How can they win ?

P.S: Please don't drag religion back into the discussion here, last time i checked, it was Pakistan Defence Forums not Pakistan Religious Forums.
BTW, it is worth noting that the ANA guys are also muslims...........

 

[waraich66]

Simply, it's a fight that they cannot win, all logic dictates that they won't.
1) No public support
2) No way to acquire new weapons/ammo, their resrves will run out eventually.
3) They will run out of people but behind ANA, PA and ISAF stand populations of millions eager to replace each fallen comrade.

How can they win ?

P.S: Please don't drag religion back into the discussion here, last time i checked, it was Pakistan Defence Forums not Pakistan Religious Forums.
BTW, it is worth noting that the ANA guys are also muslims...........

Your statements 1,2,3 proved wrong in nine years of war, ISAF have watches but Talaban have time

Islam is way of life not only Religion , Iman is source of motivation of muslims for jehad against Kufar.

Can fish live without water

 

[Icarus]

Your statements 1,2,3 proved wrong in nine years of war, ISAF have watches but Talaban have time

Islam is way of life not only Religion , Iman is source of motivation of muslims for jehad against Kufar.

Can fish live without water

Your claim of divine support is a speculation, there is no way to prove it.
If you think just because they haven't been defeated in the last 9 years qualifies them as God's soldiers, then where does that put the tamil tigers, who couldn't be defeated for 26 years ??????????

 

[Sino-PakFriendship]

Did taliban attacked or declared war against these countries, they are defending their home land , which is their right.

What you will do if US attack your country ?

Taliban gets involvement in Kashmir, Chechenya, Xinjiang and Anti-Shī'a.

Kashmir is Indo-Pakistan territory dispute (China don't want to get involvement so we don't talk further!)

But Taliban joins Al Qaeda to support East Turkistan terrorism against China and Chechenya terrorism against Russia. This is a fact!


What is the outcome if the following happens at the same times:

Russia attacks Taliban / Al Qaeda from North
China attacks Taliban / Al Qaeda from East
India attacks Taliban / Al Qaeda from South
Iran attacks Taliban / Al Qaeda from West

It is obvious that Taliban / Al Qaeda will die soon.

Arabia states and Pakistan will not help you!



If Taliban want to survive, withdrawal of US / NATO army is not the soltuion. But you also need to keep friendly with neighbouring, especially Russia, China, Iran. Also you need to give up Al Qaeda.

 

[waraich66]

Taliban gets involvement in Kashmir, Chechenya, Xinjiang and Anti-Shī'a.

Kashmir is Indo-Pakistan territory dispute (China don't want to get involvement so we don't talk further!)

But Taliban joins Al Qaeda to support East Turkistan terrorism against China and Chechenya terrorism against Russia. This is a fact!


What is the outcome if the following happens at the same times:

Russia attacks Taliban / Al Qaeda from North
China attacks Taliban / Al Qaeda from East
India attacks Taliban / Al Qaeda from South
Iran attacks Taliban / Al Qaeda from West

It is obvious that Taliban / Al Qaeda will die soon.

Arabia states and Pakistan will not help you!



If Taliban want to survive, withdrawal of US / NATO army is not the soltuion. But you also need to keep friendly with neighbouring, especially Russia, China, Iran. Also you need to give up Al Qaeda.

Al Qaeda is shadow army but Talaban proved themself live and vibrant ,

There is possibility they start Gurrilla war in Russia,China and India in near future if these countries attacked them or local population wanted their style of governance and invite them .

 

[waraich66]

Your claim of divine support is a speculation, there is no way to prove it.
If you think just because they haven't been defeated in the last 9 years qualifies them as God's soldiers, then where does that put the tamil tigers, who couldn't be defeated for 26 years ??????????

Tamil Tiger dont have support of Allah because they are not follower of Religion of Allah.

Islam dont allow any movements based on race ,colour and land .The cause or mission of muslim's life should be implementation of shariah law.

 

[Thomas]

They dont need any support from any country ,Allah is supporting them , nine year war with ISAF without any support is enough for normal person to understand that they have devine support , their core strength is Iman

if the Taliban were divinely protected. Don't you think that all the leaders would be protected as well? Yet they are systematically being hunted down, captured, and killed.

 

[Ahmad]

Your statements 1,2,3 proved wrong in nine years of war, ISAF have watches but Talaban have time

Islam is way of life not only Religion , Iman is source of motivation of muslims for jehad against Kufar.

Can fish live without water

if they had iman, they wouldnt have killed innocent people during this nine years and before that, also look at them how they use children for their bad intentions.

 

[Icarus]

Tamil Tiger dont have support of Allah because they are not follower of Religion of Allah.

Islam dont allow any movements based on race ,colour and land .The cause or mission of muslim's life should be implementation of shariah law.

You sound as if God is our possession(nauzubillah) and his benefits are limited only to us, let me ask you, if a christian gets promoted to a higher post, who is behind this ? If a buddhist has a baby, who has blessed him, if a hindu narrowly avoids death, who do you think protected him ? It's God brother, and he cares for all people of all faiths without bias or prejudice, because all of us are his creation.

 

[Sino-PakFriendship]

Al Qaeda is shadow army but Talaban proved themself live and vibrant ,

There is possibility they start Gurrilla war in Russia,China and India in near future if these countries attacked them or local population wanted their style of governance and invite them .

To play Gurrilla war,

Vietnamese army is World NO.1 and Chinese army is only World No.2, Al Qaeda and Taliban is no comparsion with both above!

Provided that Vietnamese army and Chinese army have the same number of Army. Obviously, amount of Chinese soliders overwhalmingly outnumber the amount of Vietnamese soliders.

Chinese state terrorsim can totally suppresses Al Qaeda and Taliban.

 

[waraich66]

To play Gurrilla war,

Vietnamese army is World NO.1 and Chinese army is only World No.2, Al Qaeda and Taliban is no comparsion with both above!

Provided that Vietnamese army and Chinese army have the same number of Army. Obviously, amount of Chinese soliders overwhalmingly outnumber the amount of Vietnamese soliders.

Chinese state terrorsim can totally suppresses Al Qaeda and Taliban.

If Chines muslim started Gurrilla war , they could not be defeated by Chinies army as well like Talaban.

 

[waraich66]

You sound as if God is our possession(nauzubillah) and his benefits are limited only to us, let me ask you, if a christian gets promoted to a higher post, who is behind this ? If a buddhist has a baby, who has blessed him, if a hindu narrowly avoids death, who do you think protected him ? It's God brother, and he cares for all people of all faiths without bias or prejudice, because all of us are his creation.

Please read Islamic history of wars , how weak muslim army defeated Roman and Persian 20 times stronger armies.

It is possible only with devine power

 

[waraich66]

if they had iman, they wouldnt have killed innocent people during this nine years and before that, also look at them how they use children for their bad intentions.

If you vote to corrupt leaders , then you are not innocient , you are also partner of the crimes of your leaders.

Hence invaders and supporters of invaders should be eligible for same punishment.

 

[Sino-PakFriendship]

If Chines muslim started Gurrilla war , they could not be defeated by Chinies army as well like Talaban.

We are East Asia and NOT Middle East.

Most of Chinese Muslim are secular.

Hui? No difference from Han Chinese in appearance and languages!

Uyghur? Except East Turkistan terrorists, they are totally secular.

Also, real Muslim population in China is less than 3%.

China don't want to be enemy of Islam, but if Islam extremists want to be enemy of China, it is definitely a disaster for your Islam extremists.

We are nothing for fear!

We played the war against invasion powers like USA, UK, Jap, India, USSR and Vietnam in the past. Finally, most of them withdraw! We don't fear Taliban and Al Qaeda!


We can easily get all intelligence about Muslim extremists from Israel.

 

[footmarks]

Tamil Tiger dont have support of Allah because they are not follower of Religion of Allah.

Islam dont allow any movements based on race ,colour and land .The cause or mission of muslim's life should be implementation of shariah law.

Exactly, but on to himself, not on others. The day everyone start implementing their religious preachings unto their lives and acts without trying to force the same on to others, this world' all miseries will vanish
As for your opinion regarding the Tamil Tigers, there is absolutely no relation between God's will and Humans' acts. If god ( or Allah, or any other name we call) do exist, he/she cant subscribe to such beliefs which makes humans and this world self destructive. I am also a follower of religion of Allah, I just call it by a different name and prey in a different way.