The Superpower Behind the Turkish Protests

[rmi5]

Repatriation .In 10 years ,you will see a massive movement for the right to return. Western money is pouring overtime into this.If you were see the recent happenings of may 21 in various cities this day in this year in Russia you will realise what I am talking of.

The figures from NKVD archives of 800,000 deaths revealed by Gorbachev in 80's due to Stalin debunked the anti-stalinist propaganda of the West of tens of millions dead in the eyes of ukrainians(except west ukraine),belarusians and russians and failed to make central and eastern ukrainians in line of west and their divide and conquer strategy and the happenings in ukraine prove it. With exception of Galicia and west ukraine ,west has no support in the south and east and even the center is questioning it. @vostok

So a backup strategy of West. The right to return ,tsarist crimes ,historical injustices of tsars etc etc . Memorial and others human rights NGO and the caucusian politicans can play this well. Already a coup happened in Abhkazia ,ukraine in civil war ,and these caucusian genocide NGO's all coordinated and funded by western money.

So the backup strategy . Tens of millions of muslims killed by bloody tsars . Watch in ten years what kind of issue this will become . The right to return,repatriation ,payment for historical injustices. And this will be the demand of the minority host population in Rus.

Now what remains . The right of ancestral ethnic self-identification in Turkey and then civil war in Turkey.

Dude, Turkey's case is different from Russia. We do have problem with Russia because of all of the mess they created for caucasus,(for all caucasians, including shia, sunni, sufi, christian, even for Kalmyk Buddhists) and still creating. But, Turkey is another story. Russia would sooner or later experience a soviet type of disintegration again. Its time depends on when their oil finishes or the oil prices drops like what happened in 80's.

 

[atatwolf]

A rational question doesn't ask for something that doesn't exist, or at least not in any credible source. But as I said, if you think PKK is involved in Syria greatly, provide a source.
As always, you are targeting my nationality, but it doesn't matter, like always. But indeed, someone else needs to grow up.

So maybe you can answer these questions instead..

You say YPG and PKK are different, what is different besides their name?

 

[Islamic faith&Secularism]

A rational question doesn't ask for something that doesn't exist, or at least not in any credible source. But as I said, if you think PKK is involved in Syria greatly, provide a source.
As always, you are targeting my nationality, but it doesn't matter, like always. But indeed, someone else needs to grow up.

You claim something, and i ask that you should Show us some proofs.

Now you claim if it does not exist, how will i prove it?( Actually this part suggests me that you should be left alone in your world, but...)

That is actually my point, if they do not exist there, how do you know that? ...Show us some proofs.

I have not claimed anything yet, you are the one WHO tries to sound like an expert, therefore being questioned by me now, not other way around...

As always you act like the one, therefore earns that title by other nations in the World, ever wonder maybe it is you, he?

 

[Serpentine]

So maybe you can answer these questions instead..

You say YPG and PKK are different, what is different besides their name?

Self declared and sole purpose of YPG is to repel any rebel/regime attacks on Kurdish inhabited areas.

The purpose of PKK was/is to gain self-determination for Kurds in Turkey which has nothing to do with YPG's goals and tactics. YPG is now on defensive postion only protecting Kurdish areas from attacks.

Also, some states have declared PKK as a terrorist organization, while no country considers YPG as a terrorist group as far as I know.

Anyway, I know you used PKK name unintentionally since you consider all Kurdish groups as the same.

You claim something, and i ask that you should Show us some proofs.

Now you claim if it does not exist, how will i prove it?( Actually this part suggests me that you should be left alone in your world, but...)

That is actually my point, if they do not exist there, how do you know that? ...Show us some proofs.

I have not claimed anything yet, you are the one WHO tries to sound like an expert, therefore being questioned by me now, not other way around...

As always you act like the one, therefore earns that title by other nations in the World, ever wonder maybe it is you, he?

No, I didn't claim anything, but answered to @atatwolf post which claimed PKK is fighting in Syria, I corrected him by saying there is no proof for that, at least not now in any credible source. So practically, you have asked nothing and you are just trying to play with words.
Anyway, let's end it, I'm not eager to waste my time over this.

 

[Gazprom]

Dude, Turkey's case is different from Russia. We do have problem with Russia because of all of the mess they created for caucasus,(for all caucasians, including shia, sunni, sufi, christian, even for Kalmyk Buddhists) and still creating. But, Turkey is another story. Russia would sooner or later experience a soviet type of disintegration again. Its time depends on when their oil finishes or the oil prices drops like what happened in 80's.

Disintegration will not happen,unless a person like Navalny or Limonov is brought to power by coup,but that will be purposeful for world war if West wishes so. As for Turkey,the wahabbi death squads brought in by Erdogan will finish off Turkey . That will happen .Only the timing matters.

And you think Russia will disintegrate? Kadyrov is aiming to be president of Russia .So massive crossings of chechen volunteers into Donetsk ,his rescue of russian journalists ,his support to right of return ,all PR. Its already happened for chechens in Syria. Over 10,000 flown back by Kadyrov and given instant citizenship and A class homes ..

Think about this.Kadyrov is creating an electorate for himself both russian and caucusian. A right to return will enlarge the vote bank. So then Caucusians/muslims become masters of Russia. This is the ultimate nightmare of the russian ultra-nationalists.

Putin has been akbared by his muslim mistress like how Jodha made Akbar dance on his toes for her. Some sources say that his tatar mistress was pretty much responsible for rehabiliation of crimean tatars law he passed.

 

[atatwolf]

Self declared and sole purpose of YPG is to repel any rebel/regime attacks on Kurdish inhabited areas.

The purpose of PKK was/is to gain self-determination for Kurds in Turkey which has nothing to do with YPG's goals and tactics.

Also, some states have declared PKK as a terrorist organization, while no country considers YPG as a terrorist group as far as I know.

Because they have different function doesn't mean they belong to the same umbrella. You want to say PKK and YPG don't have lines of communication, logistics, etc?

 

[Serpentine]

Because they have different function doesn't mean they belong to the same umbrella. You want to say PKK and YPG don't have lines of communication, logistics, etc?

I never claimed they don't have communications or information sharing/etc, maybe they do, but only said that PKK and in general Iraqi Kurdistan has not physically intervened in Syria by sending forces/weapons. But maybe it's happening in secret, who knows?

 

[rmi5]

Disintegration will not happen,unless a person like Navalny or Limonov is brought to power by coup,but that will be purposeful for world war if West wishes so. As for Turkey,the wahabbi death squads brought in by Erdogan will finish off Turkey . That will happen .Only the timing matters.

And you think Russia will disintegrate? Kadyrov is aiming to be president of Russia .So massive crossings of chechen volunteers into Donetsk ,his rescue of russian journalists ,his support to right of return ,all PR. Its already happened for chechens in Syria. Over 10,000 flown back by Kadyrov and given instant citizenship and A class homes ..

Think about this.Kadyrov is creating an electorate for himself both russian and caucusian. A right to return will enlarge the vote bank. So then Caucusians/muslims become masters of Russia. This is the ultimate nightmare of the russian ultra-nationalists.

Putin has been akbared by his muslim mistress like how Jodha made Akbar dance on his toes for her. Some sources say that his tatar mistress was pretty much responsible for rehabiliation of crimean tatars law he passed.

You are missing a point here. Wahabis have power in Syria because most Syrian people agree with them. In contrast to Farsi, and Russian BS, most of Syrian opposition are ordinary Syrian people who have created this so called wahabi front. in Turkiye, the case is absolutely different. A big part of Turks (I think around 1/3 at least) are alevis, shias, and seculars. rest of turks are also hanafi sunnis with a strong turkic and in some extent secular background. Wahabis, extremists or whatever you want to call it, have no influence in these type of people. Situation is different in caucasus because of all these bloody history with Russians. BTW, I don't understand what Ms. Kabaeva has to do with this situation.

 

[Islamic faith&Secularism]

No, I didn't claim anything, but answered to @atatwolf post which claimed PKK is fighting in Syria, I corrected him by saying there is no proof for that, at least not now in any credible source. So practically, you have asked nothing and you are just trying to play with words.
Anyway, let's end it, I'm not eager to waste my time over this.

... a rough description of self-humiliation.

 

[MOHSENAM]

Maşallah, İnşallah.
No, he did it to disturb Mullahs.

Who is he?! he is losing power very soon. But many people in the world understood when an unfounded country become powerful in the world what will happen.

 

[rmi5]

Self declared and sole purpose of YPG is to repel any rebel/regime attacks on Kurdish inhabited areas.

The purpose of PKK was/is to gain self-determination for Kurds in Turkey which has nothing to do with YPG's goals and tactics. YPG is now on defensive postion only protecting Kurdish areas from attacks.

Also, some states have declared PKK as a terrorist organization, while no country considers YPG as a terrorist group as far as I know.

Anyway, I know you used PKK name unintentionally since you consider all Kurdish groups as the same.



No, I didn't claim anything, but answered to @atatwolf post which claimed PKK is fighting in Syria, I corrected him by saying there is no proof for that, at least not now in any credible source. So practically, you have asked nothing and you are just trying to play with words.
Anyway, let's end it, I'm not eager to waste my time over this.

You and your type have a really impaired logic. No wonder if anyone in the world has problem with your type. Anyway, honestly, I don't understand what you are trying to say at the end? Do you want to finally say that PKK has nothing to do at all with YPG? you are obviously wrong. But, so what? The fact is that they are the same type of shit at the end, with the same mentality, tactics, culture, ..., and regardless of their flags or names.

 

[MOHSENAM]

Yup, soon Iran will loose Assad.

Assad is not in power for Iran, Assad has popularity near 80% .

 

[Gazprom]

You are missing a point here. Wahabis have power in Syria because most Syrian people agree with them. In contrast to Farsi, and Russian BS, most of Syrian opposition are ordinary Syrian people who have created this so called wahabi front. in Turkiye, the case is absolutely different. A big part of Turks (I think around 1/3 at least) are alevis, shias, and seculars. rest of turks are also hanafi sunnis with a strong turkic and in some extent secular background. Wahabis, extremists or whatever you want to call it, have no influence in these type of people. Situation is different in caucasus because of all these bloody history with Russians. BTW, I don't understand what Ms. Kabaeva has to do with this situation.

There is no support for wahabbis in Syria. Only 5% syrians supported them initially and they have lost that support also due to the aggressive actions of the wahabbis on those who welcomed them. This is why Wahabbis are not able to control anywhere. You can ask a syrian chap named Cosnostra Jabbour,Ez Al-assad or Mimi Al-laham(syrian girl partisan). Cosnostra Jabbour lives in Damascus and took part in fighting the wahabbis,never liked Assad ,but now hates the wahabbis.

Wahabis, extremists or whatever you want to call it, have no influence in these type of people.

Who needs support ,but these elements under purview of Western agencies can do sabotage ,assassinations or terror on mass scale.

 

[rmi5]

Who is he?! he is losing power very soon. But many people in the world understood when an unfounded country become powerful in the world what will happen.

unfounded country?!!! WTF are you trying to say? If you can't write in english, at least write it in farsi, it may make some sense, and we may understand what you are trying to say.

 

[F117]

As for Turkey,the wahabbi death squads brought in by Erdogan will finish off Turkey . That will happen .Only the timing matters.

I believe Pakistan is a good example for Turkey's future, with terrorist gangs enjoying support among the people and an Islamist reawakening.