The Saudi-Pakistani-Chinese triangle.

[PakShah]

I know Pakistanis have some reservation about attitude of Arabs towards them, But on other hand some Pakistanis are equally responsible for that as well. But as far KSA is concerned, It has lot of respect in heart of Pakistanis and i believe if there is any need they can offer their lives as well to save KSA. I hope you will not disagree with my claim

What you say is totally correct. I hope The Saudi Arabians would also offer their lives and have respect for Pakistan as well.
Respect is a two-way street.
This is a matter of principles.

 

[Sugarcane]

The problem with this alliance is that Pakistani leaders are easily bought by americans and do not represnt pakistani interests. Saudis leadership are only interested in the survival of their royal family. But if we had honest sincere true representatives in saudi and pakistan leaderships this would be a formidable alliance that would benefit the people of all three countries.

You are right but the problem is if you get good leadership even than you can't make U-Turn in your policies because both KSA & PAK are dependent on USA. They require time to diversify their technology source. But again if we get sincere leadership than this time can be reduced.

 

[Mosamania]

Unfortunately, there are some Pakistanis who are slightly anti-arab.
I think its because of some issues in Pakistan.

For example there are many arabs who come to Pakistan and claim it is for Islamic purposes, and then they are caught doing some terrorist activities.

Also there some Pakistanis who say they are mistreated in the Gulf States.

Finally there are Pakistanis who think that there are many arabs look down upon or have no respect for Pakistanis, and Pakistani culture, heritage, language, and even clothing!

Mosamani, you are our friend, brother, and guest from Saudi Arabia, hopefully you can clear some Pakistani's misconceptions and misunderstandings about arabs.

I am hear to bridge the gap between us. Unfortunately it is becoming more apparent it is easier said than done.
As for the terrorists I can assure you me and all of us Saudi Arabians wash our hands from that bunch. They are not of us and we are not of them.

As for Pakistanis being mistreated in the Gulf I am not going to deny it. Unfortunately some Saudis think because they pay the wages of their employees that makes them masters over them, This however is not as prevalent as it is thought to be. Most Saudis believe in the rule "treat muslims as you would like to be treated".

And for the number 3 I am yet to hear anyone mocking Pakistani culture heritage or clothing.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

China last year became the top oil importer from Saudi Arabia also china is the biggest Saudi Arabian trade partner. So China has more to lose in Saudi Arabia than America. So infact china is the real deal to Saudi Arabia not the US.

I agree.

America only makes up 16% of our total exports... and exports only make up 27% of our GDP.

It would hurt, but we could live without them.

If we didn't have oil though, we would crash within weeks. (As soon as our emergency reserves run out).

 

[PakShah]

Its good you are here, you will certainly make the anti-arab crowd fall flat on their faces.

I think a Saudi-Pakistan-China alliance is inevitable. Look we are all neighbors, we are all on the same hemisphere.
Saudi Arabia should join SCO.

 

[Sugarcane]

What you say is totally correct. I hope The Saudi Arabians would also offer their lives for Pakistan as well.

I think Pakistanis doesn't expect reward when it comes about KSA. Because KSA have Holy Places which we love more than our lives.

 

[PakShah]

I think Pakistanis doesn't expect reward when it comes about KSA. Because KSA have Holy Places which we love more than our lives.

Yes, but most Pakistanis are reasonable people who believe in justice.
If Pakistanis are expected to die for Saudi Arabia, then Saudi Arabians should die for Pakistan.
Isn't Pakistan important? Pakistan is a Muslim majority country. Shouldn't all Muslim countries be loved by all other Muslims? The answer is yes.
You do believe in justice right?

Just because Saudi Arabia has Makkah and Medina, doesn't mean Saudi Arabia is superior to Pakistan or to other Muslim countries(eg. Indonesia). You do agree with me right?

 

[lem34]

The ultimate alliance would be saudi iran pakistan and china. And if india behaved and resolved its border issues with all surrounding countries add india. Americans wouldnt know where to look

 

[Sugarcane]

Yes, but most Pakistanis are reasonable people who believe in justice.
If Pakistanis are expected to die for Saudi Arabia, then Saudi Arabians should die for Pakistan.
Isn't Pakistan important? Pakistan is a Muslim majority country. Shouldn't all Muslim countries be loved by all other Muslims? The answer is yes.
You do believe in justice right?

Just because Saudi Arabia has Makkah and Medina, doesn't mean Saudi Arabia is superior to Pakistan or to other Muslim countries(eg. Indonesia). You do agree with me right?

You are right at your point of view but let me correct it's not about justice its about brotherhood & Love. As far as KSA being special because of Makah and Madina, Yes that made them special. God has blessed them, nobody can deny it.

BTW.... It's better to get back to topic

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Yes, but most Pakistanis are reasonable people who believe in justice.
If Pakistanis are expected to die for Saudi Arabia, then Saudi Arabians should die for Pakistan.
Isn't Pakistan important? Pakistan is a Muslim majority country. Shouldn't all Muslim countries be loved by all other Muslims? The answer is yes.
You do believe in justice right?

Just because Saudi Arabia has Makkah and Medina, doesn't mean Saudi Arabia is superior to Pakistan or to other Muslim countries(eg. Indonesia). You do agree with me right?

You are right at your point of view but let me correct it's not about justice its about brotherhood & Love. As far as KSA being special because of Makah and Madina, Yes that made them special. God has blessed them, nobody can deny it.

BTW.... It's better to get back to topic

 

[Pioneerfirst]

Nothing is going to work if Pakistan is not stable.

 

[Sugarcane]

The ultimate alliance would be saudi iran pakistan and china. And if india behaved and resolved its border issues with all surrounding countries add india. Americans wouldnt know where to look

Yes - Every rise has a fall. It is applicable to USZ as well.

 

[PakShah]

How can we have brotherhood and love if there is no justice?

Anyways back to the topic.

In response to Aryan_B about including Iran, forget Iran, it has a bad international image and is under sanctions.
Iran will probably never be in a bloc, if it is consistently having a bad international image.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

The ultimate alliance would be saudi iran pakistan and china. And if india behaved and resolved its border issues with all surrounding countries add india. Americans wouldnt know where to look

I really hope that Saudi Arabia aligns with China+Pakistan! That would be incredible if it happened.

But unfortunately... the USA is still the ruling superpower. We'll have to wait until the world changes some more, maybe in a decade or so.

Never lose hope, and have a lot of patience.

 

[lem34]

How can we have brotherhood and love if there is no justice?

Anyways back to the topic.

In response to Aryan_B about including Iran, forget Iran, it has a bad international image and is under sanctions.
Iran will probably never be in a bloc, if it is consistently having a bad international image.

You gotta be kidding me. Iran has a bad international image cos wankdrs american and israeli zionists peddle crap. Do you think israel has a right to nukes but iran doesnt. What is the matter with you we pakistanis should know about the effect of propaganda by americans.

 

[JonAsad]

How can we have brotherhood and love if there is no justice?

Anyways back to the topic.

In response to Aryan_B about including Iran, forget Iran, it has a bad international image and is under sanctions.
Iran will probably never be in a bloc, if it is consistently having a bad international image.

Look at Pakistan- the ones with potential always ends up in bad international image- so fiker not about the image-