The role of the EU in the current crisis between east and west and how to solve this?

[ChineseTiger1986]

Thats no security guarantee for us.

Ukraine serves as a neutral buffer zone between Europe and Russia will not be a bad deal for you guys.

 

[MarkusS]

Ukraine serves as a neutral buffer zone between Europe and Russia will not be a bad deal for you guys.

Which would also mean that we ca station larger troops at our eastern boarders like estonia and poland including a rocket defense system.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Which would also mean that we ca station larger troops at our eastern boarders like estonia and poland including a rocket defense system.

As you wish, if you can afford this, no problem for anyone.

 

[MarkusS]

As you wish, if you can afford this, no problem for anyone.

It seems to be a problem for russia which makes a big fuss about it.

 

[Superboy]

Which would also mean that we ca station larger troops at our eastern boarders like estonia and poland including a rocket defense system.

Be my guest.

It seems to be a problem for russia which makes a big fuss about it.

Russia is getting PAK-FA and S-500 in 2016. They are way better than anything NATO can field in Ukraine.

 

[MarkusS]

Be my guest.




Russia is getting PAK-FA and S500 in 2016. They are way better than anything NATO can field in Ukraine.

Its not about Ukraine. Do you honestly think anyone in EU gives a shit about Ukraine?

 

[Superboy]

Its not about Ukraine. Do you honestly think anyone in EU gives a shit about Ukraine?

Yeah but Ukraine is a buffer between Germany and Russia.

 

[Huaren]

Thats no security guarantee for us.

Urkaine is not somewhere you should be in the first place and you dont need security guarantee there,

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Yeah but Ukraine is a buffer between Germany and Russia.

Between Poland and Russia.

 

[Superboy]

Between Poland and Russia.

Poland is a nobody. Nobody even takes Poland seriously. It's between Germany and Russia, both superpowers.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Poland is a nobody. Nobody even takes Poland seriously. It's between Germany and Russia, both superpowers.

Germany has to first unite the entire Western Europe under its own banner.

 

[Superboy]

Germany has to first unite the entire Western Europe under its banner.

Yeah but that's called the EU

 

[Huaren]

Poland is a nobody. Nobody even takes Poland seriously. It's between Germany and Russia, both superpowers.

Nope neither Germany nor Russia are superpower, but Russia is on par with EU in term of millitary deterrence and to an less extend in global politics. However EU is a " symbolic superpower" under the leadership of US

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Yeah but that's called the EU

The EU is not consolidated enough.

- The US has implemented the UK as a Trojan horse in the EU.

- The EU just failed to make its own navigation system, and they still have to depend on the GPS.

- The EU still depends on the engine technology from the US/UK, like A320, A380, etc.

- The EU has weak nuclear arsenal compared to the US/UK, while France's nuclear arsenal only serves for themselves, not for Germany.

- Germany still has been restricted by the US.

So many evidences show that the EU still live under the shadow of the Anglo-Saxon hegemony.

 

[Superboy]

Nope neither Germany nor Russia are superpower, but Russia is on par with EU in term of millitary deterrence and to an less extend in global politics. However EU is a " symbolic superpower" under the leadership of US

Russia is superpower just by being the biggest country alone.