The Problems being faced by the Pakistani Young Diaspora and 2nd gen

[Yankee-stani]

Most people in this fourm I noticed are part of the burgeoning Pakistani Diaspora now by some ranks the 6th or 7th largests in the world, however I notice some problems most of the diaspora I meet in real life dont consider themselves to be Pakistani or care about Pakistan I am talking about the mostly younger ones big problem how are we gonna fix Pakistan and promote Pakistan if our younger folks in our diaspora dont care

 

[khansaheeb]

Yes the new 2nd generation are called coconuts. Not sure what the 3rd generation will be called.

 

[Valar.]

Promotion of Pakistan is the job of 200 Pakistanis in Pakistan not some 2nd or 3rd generation diaspora.

To promote Pakistan, first we need to set our house in order.

As for diaspora, just be a law abiding citizens of your host countries.

 

[nahtanbob]

Yes the new 2nd generation are called coconuts. Not sure what the 3rd generation will be called.

coconut is brown outside and white inside. is that the reason ?

 

[Pakhtoon yum]

Most people in this fourm I noticed are part of the burgeoning Pakistani Diaspora now by some ranks the 6th or 7th largests in the world, however I notice some problems most of the diaspora I meet in real life dont consider themselves to be Pakistani or care about Pakistan I am talking about the mostly younger ones big problem how are we gonna fix Pakistan and promote Pakistan if our younger folks in our diaspora dont care

Parents....

Promotion of Pakistan is the job of 200 Pakistanis in Pakistan not some 2nd or 3rd generation diaspora.

To promote Pakistan, first we need to set our house in order.

As for diaspora, just be a law abiding citizens of your host countries.

Word

 

[Valar.]

Word

You see, Pakistanis are miserably failing in promoting Pakistan because even we don't know for sure or don't have concensus on what to promote as Pakistani? First, we need to have a lot of debate on who we are and what do we want and then how do we promote it? Many a times Pakistanis with good intention try to promote Pakistan and end up giving wrong impression.

 

[Yankee-stani]

@Desert Fox @Pan-Islamic-Pakistan

 

[VCheng]

Most people in this fourm I noticed are part of the burgeoning Pakistani Diaspora now by some ranks the 6th or 7th largests in the world, however I notice some problems most of the diaspora I meet in real life dont consider themselves to be Pakistani or care about Pakistan I am talking about the mostly younger ones big problem how are we gonna fix Pakistan and promote Pakistan if our younger folks in our diaspora dont care

Why would they migrate in the first place if the home country were so great? For each succeeding generation, the present and future take over the past, as they rightfully should. Fixing Pakistan is best left those those that live in Pakistan, as they are the the best placed to decide how to solve their problems.

 

[Liquidmetal]

Those in Pakistan are so behind the times it is frightening. Education is key and cleanliness - water, our streets, our food, our public and civil servants, our homes and even our minds. To promote properly you have to be proud of it, and we have to be proud of being Pakistani. Beautiful country with actually very hospital and open hearted people, blighted by corruption and lack of protection for all people, a system that serves only the rich and powerful.

 

[Dubious]

Most people in this fourm I noticed are part of the burgeoning Pakistani Diaspora now by some ranks the 6th or 7th largests in the world, however I notice some problems most of the diaspora I meet in real life dont consider themselves to be Pakistani or care about Pakistan I am talking about the mostly younger ones big problem how are we gonna fix Pakistan and promote Pakistan if our younger folks in our diaspora dont care

It depends on how you were raised and priorities. When adults themselves keep saying bad things about their home land, how can next generation love or respect what they can imagine as a ball of problems? Worse part is when the adult / parent is the ONLY bad mouthing and not presenting ANY ideas of what can be done ...No constructive criticism...just plain criticism which is not different than disgust for a child!

Those who left disgruntled, usually cant be bothered to educate their children and then there is a class that things by behaving /accepting "Western" culture, their brown skinned child will somehow be accepted more than the one who is also brown and knows their culture/ tradition. I have seen these 2nd type so often...they have no spat with Pakistan, in fact most of their parents were high up govt officers or ranked in the army....

Even the Pakistani in Pakistan think by behaving and adapting to Western lifestyle (dying your hair, bleaching your skin, wearing clothes that even some westerners of their age would be ashamed to wear) but not adapting the "WESTERN LIFESTYLE" (doing your own work and not abusing your maid, being independent from aged 16 by working in a fastfood or chain shop to pay for your own expenses, learning the value of money) ...stick out like a sore thumb! These confused type ... I mean if you "want to behave as Westerner" behave like one and conserve water, energy, dont litter like a litterbug, earn your own bread instead of relying on dad, learn DIY and learn to use a hammer like a normal human being...and so many other things which they failed to adapt!)

I blame the parents! You have made your child so confused and not guided him/ her .... The child himself cant truly love him/her self if you dont tell them to accept themselves and stop trying to be something you arent! There is absolutely nothing wrong in being a desi and taking up the "good" of the Western lifestyle...

 

[VCheng]

I blame to parents! You have made your child so confused and not guided him/ her .... The child himself cant truly love him/her self if you dont tell them to accept themselves and stop trying to be something you arent! There is absolutely nothing wrong in being a desi and taking up the "good" of the Western lifestyle...

That is a good point, but why should it fall to the diaspora to fix and promote Pakistan, as the OP has asked? That job is for Pakistanis, and Pakistanis alone, to do.

 

[Dubious]

That is a good point, but why should it fall to the diaspora to fix and promote Pakistan, as the OP has asked? That job is for Pakistanis, and Pakistanis alone, to do.

Then dont call themselves diaspora and call themselves the citizens of the host, no?

If you want to be called Pakistani or have some link with Pakistan...then Pakistan demands you also fix its name! Coz it is MOST OF THE ones who leave Pakistan who ALSO contribute to the bad name...

Pakistani Muslims who make a fuss abroad or fight in open daylight, forget that it is Pakistan's name they smear not their adopted American/ British/ Australian and whatever 2nd generation they are!

 

[El Sidd]

I blame to parents!

Have some mercy!!

 

[Dubious]

Have some mercy!!

nay

You took your child to a foreign land and still eat salan and roti...then say bad things about Pakistan in 1 breath and in the next you are like I miss my land, "mitti ki khusbu"...What shit is that?

 

[VCheng]

Then dont call themselves diaspora and call themselves the citizens of the host, no?

If you want to be called Pakistani or have some link with Pakistan...then Pakistan demands you also fix its name! Coz it is MOST OF THE ones who leave Pakistan who ALSO contribute to the bad name...

Pakistani Muslims who make a fuss abroad or fight in open daylight, forget that it is Pakistan's name they smear not their adopted American/ British/ Australian and whatever 2nd generation they are!

The word "diaspora" only means "the dispersion of any people from their original homeland". That is all. By definition, the word applies without any demands or connotations like you mention.