The Pentagon has suspended training for new Turkish F-35 pilots

[Khafee]

The problem is Mediterranean gas... Greece and south cyprus made a pack with Israel. And we need a defence system that we can use against greece and Israel, for our safety...

Very logical. Didn't Greece / Cyprus operate a version of S300?

 

[maximuswarrior]

Remember after all the huff and puff they handed over the pastor quietly.

Andrew Brunson: Turkey releases US pastor after two years
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-45841276

I am afraid we are going to see something similar.

 

[Khafee]

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WTH do they feed your neighbors, gau gobar all day long?

 

[maximuswarrior]

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LOL cunning Indian. Asking for F-35s whilst buying S-400 from Russia.

 

[Turan09]

Very logical. Didn't Greece / Cyprus operate a version of S300?

Yes Greece has an S-300 PMU 1 in Crete... But it looks like US thinks it is a problem only for Turkey.

 

[maximuswarrior]

If Turkey go ahead with S-400 it is very praiseworthy. Let me just add that as a side note. The beauty is that a transition to S-500 would be quite logical.

 

[Turan09]

If Turkey go ahead with S-400 it is very praiseworthy. Let me just add that as a side note. The beauty is that a transition to S-500 would be quite logical.

We show our interest to have S-500, more than once... We will see...

 

[Khafee]

We show our interest to have S-500, more than once... We will see...

All indicators point in that direction
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/the-...new-turkish-f-35-pilots.625298/#post-11585263

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Kremlin says S-400 deal with Turkey envisages partial technologies handover: Ifax
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...tial-technologies-handover-ifax-idUSKCN1TU0HH

Turkey's Erdogan says U.S. will not impose sanctions over Russian missile deal
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...tions-over-russian-missile-deal-idUSKCN1TU03B

yet they have
American words are worth as much as their signed agreements
they bend them whenever it suits them

The problem is Mediterranean gas... Greece and south cyprus made a pack with Israel. And we need a defence system that we can use against greece and Israel, for our safety...

Greece I understand but Israel I am not sure because there are no known hostilities between the two countries. if I am not mistaken there been joint military exercises as well. apart from one incident of firing on Turkish led Palestinian relief aid by the Israelis

 

[My-Analogous]

The prime location of Turkey was very important to US and now they have to shift somewhere else. Now question is where because no one in Europe try direct conflict with Russia due to fear that they become Russia prime target. So who want to take risk now?

Ukraine?

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Yes Greece has an S-300 PMU 1 in Crete... But it looks like US thinks it is a problem only for Turkey.

maybe the problem is S400 with its advanced technology of spying and detecting stealth that earlier models lack. (correct me please) even Iran has S 300 but America doesnt really care

 

[Turan09]

Greece I understand but Israel I am not sure because there are no known hostilities between the two countries. if I am not mistaken there been joint military exercises as well. apart from one incident of firing on Turkish led Palestinian relief aid by the Israelis

There is a pack of Greece-Israel-Egypt-South Cyprus in Mediterranean... I am not saying we will fight with them all but it is better to be prepared for worst case scenario... There is so much gas...

maybe the problem is S400 with its advanced technology of spying and detecting stealth that earlier models lack. (correct me please) even Iran has S 300 but America doesnt really care

S-300 isnt a weak system... Serbs shot down an american stealth jet (F-117) with an S-125... So I dont agree with that.

 

[maximuswarrior]

We show our interest to have S-500, more than once... We will see...

Makes sense to go for S-400 when in the near future the next gen S-500 is available. We can be rest assured that the next gen will be very very lethal.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

The prime location of Turkey was very important to US and now they have to shift somewhere else. Now question is where because no one in Europe try direct conflict with Russia due to fear that they become Russia prime target. So who want to take risk now?

Ukraine?

Romania (NOT SURE) and Bulgaria (out of question) leaving Ukraine (which was already dealt by Russia)

 

[maximuswarrior]

maybe the problem is S400 with its advanced technology of spying and detecting stealth that earlier models lack. (correct me please) even Iran has S 300 but America doesnt really care

Remember that Syrian S-200 shot down an advanced Israeli F-16I. It is not hard to imagine how potent S-300 is compared to earlier air defenses.

The Americans rightfully fear the S-400.