The only way to tackle terrorism in Pakistan is to reform or close down Madrasas

[SQ8]

I am guessing none of the pakistani members here studied in a madrasa... does it mean all of you here are rich?
the demography of most Indian members is middle class... am sure

Nope, a madresa is a very poor specific institutions. There is NO, I repeat No difference between education levels in terms of Indians and Pakistanis for their upper and middle class education standards... apart from the utter lack of awareness in India about Pakitan. However, the poor(which are a aplenty) and lower middle class to an extent choose to send their kids to madressas because of low cost.

 

[rockstar08]

We need a kind of Hitler in Pakistan to tackle these Talibans


Madarsas are not the only but the biggest factor in spreading Terrorism and Extremism in Pakistan , specially those funded by our brotherly Arab Countries ...

Bhai bhai bol ke maar rahe hai humari

 

[Psychic]

Do they teach anything other than bent up religious *hit?

Depends on the madrassah. Some deliver computer and mathematics courses as well.
And what do you mean by religious shyt? Religion may be a sh*t for you but is important for others.

What are the job prospects ?

Which all company recruits them and whats the usual job profiles or designations?

Mostly pesh Imams in various organizations. For example our military also hire them as Imams in garrison/Contonment mosques for religious services which is a decent job with a handsome salary besides other perks (a JCO rank is allotted to them). Many madrassah degrees are considered equivalent to bachelors/Masters degrees, hence they are also eligible for other jobs as well.
They can study further and complete the aalim course, which is considered equal to masters and become qualified religious clerics.

But they got training in religious camps I. e madrasa

By similar logic, most terrorists got training in NWA so nuke NWA.

 

[tarrar]

Proper & strong laws should be made so that no fake madressa & fake mullahs stay hidden. Every molvi should clear a test before he is appointed for a mosque or madressa.

 

[Psychic]

govt. should atleast take these madressahs under its control and reform the syllabus.

Agreed. That is the solution, not what you were advocating earlier.

 

[TheNoob]

I am guessing none of the pakistani members here studied in a madrasa... does it mean all of you here are rich?
the demography of most Indian members is middle class... am sure

Most of here are from med(Majority) and high income groups.
so yeah.
Most of us have learnt Quran and religious stuff from our parents.

 

[Sinnerman108]

what is the rough estimates of number of madrassas.. how many students study there.

Let me ask you another questions, because I don't believe the OP's point of view is correct.

How does a pundit survive ? what does he live on ?

now, substitute, Pundit, with molvi, or any other religious guy.

This is the root cause of the problem.

society requires social skills & means to make ends. that includes being part of economic activity.
A man who has pledged himself is devoid of such capabilities. Thus the exploitation starts.

 

[my2cents]

People only talk about one type of extremists. What about the ones on this thread, Extremist SECULARISTS? Trying to force their views down our throats. How conveniently blaming my religion for the governments failings, and corruption.

Did Islam tell those in...

Power to steal?
Take kick-backs?
Be Mr. 10%?
Allow foreigners to walk over us and kill us?
Be treacherous and sell our country's name for $25m?
Sit in London and bad mouth us?
Work against the State and sell the country as consultants to enemy countries?
Write books on state secrets?

Our country is very rich, but liars and crooks run it. So, don't you dare blame my pure religion on the actions of the sick and twisted.

Good come back but what @M.SAAD is looking for is source of this extremist ideology. If not madrassas what?? Do you guys have an answer?

From your answer ISLAM is ruled out. You have ruled out Madrassas.

Is it poverty?? But poverty exists in many nations.
Is it corrupt govt , inequity, education or unemployment?? What is your take??

 

[Peaceful Civilian]

By similar logic, most terrorists got training in NWA so nuke NWA.

I didn't say that All madrasa are terrorist but all terrorists here got training from madrasa. History is evident of this. I hope government will utilize maximum funds in education sector atleast 5 percent of GDP.

 

[FunkyGen]

Religion may be a sh*t for you but is important for others.

I am not pro any religion but i usually call takfiri teachings as shit...

Mostly pesh Imams in various organizations.

Wow that's a real peaceful job...

For example our military also hire them as Imams in garrison/Contonment mosques for religious services which is a decent job with a handsome salary besides other perks (a JCO rank is allotted to them).

Come on mate, these job prospects are in thousands at best...

By similar logic, most terrorists got training in NWA so nuke NWA.

Some people are pro that on this forum...

 

[Salik]

What are the job prospects ?

Which all company recruits them and whats the usual job profiles or designations?

First give them the status of similar to IDPs, freeze them in each and every madrasa wherever they are. Remove the head and syllabus altogether. Introduce refined syllabus and teachers from moderate branches. Give them the status of 'model madrasas'. Then you get well groomed individuals in the market.

Whatever is happening on international theater we have to see Pakistan first and madrasas reforms are inevitable in this regard.

 

[Psychic]

I am not pro any religion but i usually call takfiri teachings as shit...

Wow that's a real peaceful job...

...

Majority Pakistanis are barelvis and there are many of their madrassahs as well if you call deobandis as takfiris, which isn't true either. As for peaceful job, I donot see anything violent in that job.

 

[FunkyGen]

Majority Pakistanis are barelvis and there are many of their madrassahs as well if you call deobandis as takfiris, which isn't true either. As for peaceful job, I donot see anything violent in that job.

In villages their usual rants are about...
1-shia kafir
2-kill mirzais
3-amreeka kutta
4-yahoodi ganda
have observed in a few city mosques too, but after the punjab gov. initiative things have calmed down a bit...

 

[Psychic]

In villages their usual rants are about...
1-shia kafir
2-kill mirzais
3-amreeka kutta
4-yahoodi ganda
have observed in a few city mosques too, but after the punjab gov. initiative things have calmed down a bit...

Those are sterotypes not confined to mullahs/madrassa kids only, I have seen many of my non religious university fellows saying exactly the same things. There is a need to reform their curriculum and remove violence and sectarianism which is being taught to them. Again not all madrassahs teach those non sense.

 

[Shan-e-ibrahim]

Lal Mazjid forgotten? The reaction was huge and lethal..