The newly built runway will become China's unsinkable aircraft carrier

[beijingwalker]

During the battle, the Vietnamese fleet detected two more Chinese warships rushing to the area. China later acknowledged these were the Hainan-Class submarine chasers #281 and #282. Despite South Vietnamese reports that at least one of their ships had been struck by a missile, the Chinese insisted what the Vietnamese saw were rocket-propelled grenades fired by the crew of #389 and that no missile-capable ships were present. The reason the Chinese ships closed in was because they had no missiles. The South Vietnamese fleet also received warnings that U.S. Navyradar had detected additional Chinese guided missile frigates and jet fighters on their way from Hainan. South Vietnam requested assistance from the U.S. Seventh Fleet, but the request was denied.

In 1974,US just stood by and didn't even offer a helping hand to a treaty bound ally South Vietnam, and now you expect they spill their blood for Communist Vietnam, dream on,man.

In a naval battle ,Taiwan can hurt China a bit and bring some damage to the Chinese navy. but Vietnam is just a sitting duck, if a sea battle breaks out between China and Vietnam, it won't be a battle, it can only be a massacre. like what happened in 1974 and 1988.

 

[beijingwalker]

How many people live in Yongxing Island ?

Population (2014)
• Total1,443

 

[Aepsilons]

Population (2014)
• Total1,443

Thanks, buddy ! So the island is a municipality then. Is it part of Hainan Province ?

 

[BoQ77]

In 1974,US just stood by and didn't even offer a helping hand to a treaty bound ally South Vietnam, and now you expect they spill their blood for Communist Vietnam, dream on,man.

In a naval battle ,Taiwan can hurt China a bit and bring some damage to the Chinese navy. but Vietnam is just a sitting duck, if a sea battle breaks out between China and Vietnam, it won't be a battle, it can only be a massacre. like what happened in 1974 and 1988.

Don't ever be proud of a massacre caused by your men.

 

[beijingwalker]

I believe there are many air powers in Southeast Asia with very capable air force projective power. I would also mention that there is even a super power lurking about.

Now, I'm not saying that an airstrike would be done soon or it would be opportune for the region. Nay, it would be anti-thetical to a fortuitous relationship between ASEAN and China. And thus it would be counter-productive for the region.

I am merely saying that given the island's close proximity to several Southeast Asian nations', an air strike would be...well within the capabilities of said states.

Don't ever be proud of a massacre caused by your men.

Try us next time soon, China's navy buildup is the fastest in the world, don't have to wait for any longer.

 

[BoQ77]

Try us next time soon, China's navy buildup is the fastest in the world, don't have to wait for any longer.

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your picture come with terrible data.

 

[beijingwalker]

China has world's most active missile program: US
China has world's most active missile program, Pentagon says

your picture come with terrible data.

maybe the date has changed a bit ,but the change must be in China's favor.

 

[Aepsilons]

Try us next time soon, China's navy buildup is the fastest in the world, don't have to wait for any longer.

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China has a formidable military force, definitely. Your graph shows that China has over 9000 tanks, Vietnam has around 2000 tanks. Despite China being over 14x the size of Vietnam in population, the Vietnamese have about 1/4th the number of tanks as the Chinese. Vietnam would be more than capable of holding its own in a ground assault, as well as limited offensive strikes. Remember that China is large, its tank divisions are widely dispersed throughout its territory, guarding its northern border with Mongolia, the border with North Korea, its western border and its southwestern flank against India. Vietnam, on the other hand, really has no threat from its western flanks, so it can mobilize its some 2000 tanks for an effective defense.

As for Navy, tho the Vietnamese have a small surface fleet, they have a bristling naval defense arm. They have numerous P-5 Pyatyorka systems, K-300 Bastion-Ps, P-800, Yakhont as well as Brahmos cruise missiles that would easily target any surface ships.

I do not doubt that China would be able to inflict severe damage on Vietnam, but not without heavy casualties.

 

[beijingwalker]

China now is being nice to Vietnam and The Phillippines , but don't take China's politeness as weakness, if we go to war in the South China Sea, it won't end well for you Vietnamese.

China has a formidable military force, definitely. Your graph shows that China has over 9000 tanks, Vietnam has around 2000 tanks. Despite China being over 14x the size of Vietnam in population, the Vietnamese have about 1/4th the number of tanks as the Chinese. Vietnam would be more than capable of holding its own in a ground assault, as well as limited offensive strikes. Remember that China is large, its tank divisions are widely dispersed throughout its territory, guarding its northern border with Mongolia, the border with North Korea, its western border and its southwestern flank against India. Vietnam, on the other hand, really has no threat from its western flanks, so it can mobilize its some 2000 tanks for an effective defense.
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China now is the world's biggest industrial country ,we just retired thousands of old type tanks and replace them with new ones ,and if need be, Chinese factories can churn out tanks in thousands while Vietnam can barely make tanks ,let alone good tanks.

As for Navy, tho the Vietnamese have a small surface fleet, they have a bristling naval defense arm. They have numerous P-5 Pyatyorka systems, K-300 Bastion-Ps, P-800, Yakhont as well as Brahmos cruise missiles that would easily target any surface ships.

I do not doubt that China would be able to inflict severe damage on Vietnam, but not without heavy casualties.

We fought sea battles in 1974 and 1988, when China was still militarily a weak country and didn't suffer much casualities, actually we almost suffered no casualities at all.

 

[BoQ77]

@beijingwalker : could you tell me from your data, what is the aircraft type with most quantity in China?
and in Vietnam ? just for verifying purpose.

Btw, Vietnam doesn't adopt the tactic 1vs1 by tanks , aircrafts and warships to outnumbered battles.
Will be antitank weapon, SAM and antiship system do their jobs.

 

[beijingwalker]

@beijingwalker : could you tell me from your data, what is the aircraft type with most quantity in China?
and in Vietnam ? just for verifying purpose.

Btw, Vietnam doesn't adopt the tactic 1vs1 by tanks , aircrafts and warships to outnumbered battles.
Will be antitank weapon, SAM and antiship system do their jobs.

check wikipedia

 

[BoQ77]

check wikipedia

wrong data, so I want you to verify your source.
how many aircrafts out of nearly 6,000 from China could engage a possibility battle in Spratly islands?

the first act if war happen would be destroying that airstrip by P-35 missiles.

 

[beijingwalker]

Check this thread and see how fast PLA develops

China's faster-than-expected military buildup

wrong data, so I want you to verify your source.
how many aircrafts out of nearly 6,000 from China could engage a possibility battle in Spratly islands?

the first act if war happen would be destroying that airstrip by P-35 missiles.

You talk big, then you can expect missile raining down on your head in thousands.

 

[sicsheep]

Don't ever be proud of a massacre caused by your men.

if you want to talk about massacre, you want to go back and check how many of your people got napalmed by B-52s. lol

so unsinkable and immovable. .

yes, immovable just like Okinawa, Guam and Vietnam immovable

 

[Speeder 2]

No country, not even the former Soviet Union, can risk a land war with China.

The equipments of 1952's China were utter crap. Then look at the Korean War.

Any conflict with Vietnam no matter where will quickly turn into a land war, because it's the most conevient.


So Vietnam wants to dare China on land war? quite funny.

No need to use any tank. China's precision-guided long-range artilleries alone can cover NorthernVietnam, capital included, 24*7.

And China can churn out artilleries as cheap as many and as quickly as takeaway chopsticks.