The Nefertiri conflict between germany and egypt

[Mahmoud_EGY]

I apologise for going too far in some of the things I posted.

it is i who should apologize i love my history and care for it so much so it meant a lot to me and some of my comments should have been less hostile
sorry if i offended anyone

 

[Audio]

so it is up to you to say ? you are a nobody dont act as if you are someone important

All true, i am nobody. I was expressing my opinion. I believe relevant people in the matter have a similar opinion on this, if not fully the Coptic aspect of my opinion, then surely, fear of theft or destruction of the artifacts is present.

about arab nationalism it is a thing from the past now

Copts moved from 4th rate citizens under Morsi to 2nd rate under Sisi.

 

[atatwolf]

Nasser, Arab nationalism, instilling of Arab identity on Egyptians, what happened to those?

The clique running Egypt, is Arab. Show me a Copt running things? Until that changes, say goodbye to any and all artifacts.

This is what is going to happen if Germany gives it back.

Some violent revolution will happen in Egypt like it is happening every 5 years.

Arab looters are going to steal Ancient Egyptian artifacts that Germany gave back.

The artifacts will be sold for 1 camel for every 3 artifacts.

I highly disagree returning it to the current regime. They are no legitimate government.

 

[Steve781]

All true, i am nobody. I was expressing my opinion. I believe relevant people in the matter have a similar opinion on this, if not fully the Coptic aspect of my opinion, then surely, fear of theft or destruction is present.




Copts moved from 4th rate citizens under Morsi to 2nd rate under Sisi.

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I'm not certain but I do think Egypt is currently considering lifting all restrictions on church building.

 

[Audio]

The artifacts will be sold for 1 camel for every 3 artifacts.

lol....

 

[Mahmoud_EGY]

All true, i am nobody. I was expressing my opinion. I believe relevant people in the matter have a similar opinion on this, if not fully the Coptic aspect of my opinion, then surely, fear of theft or destruction of the artifacts is present.




Copts moved from 4th rate citizens under Morsi to 2nd rate under Sisi.

the possibility of looting is in every country in the world
for the last time copts means Egyptians if you mean egyptian christians stay out of it we are 1 nation 1 people united to the end

 

[MarkusS]

egyptians cant care for it. Thats simple fact. Its a 3 rd world country that can in no way guarantee the safety of this artifact. And nope, there is no danger of looting in europe like in egypt. Even in WW II the museums stayed untouched. Nefertiri was stored in a mine to safe her from air raids. Egyptians show no respect for their history. We discovered it. We brought its artifacts to sunlight. It is our responsibility to secure it.

egypt can have a replica.

the possibility of looting is in every country in the world
for the last time copts means Egyptians if you mean egyptian christians stay out of it we are 1 nation 1 people united to the end

bullshit.,christians are treated like dirt in egypt. We made a nile cruise and our tourguide was coptic. she told us whats going on. Lie to someone else. They are treated like 2nd class citizens, get murdered, beaten up from mobs.

Tell tze people here what happenes when a muslim girl falls in love with a coptic boy and wants marry him. Or if a muslim person want become christian in egypt? What happenes then with "one nation, one people united to the end"

 

[Mahmoud_EGY]

bullshit.,christians are treated like dirt in egypt. We made a nile cruise and our tourguide was coptic. she told us whats going on. Lie to someone else. They are treated like 2nd class citizens, get murdered, beaten up from mobs.

Tell tze people here what happenes when a muslim girl falls in love with a coptic boy and wants marry him. Or if a muslim person want become christian in egypt? What happenes then with "one nation, one people united to the end"

once again you speak about things you dont understand
i am Egyptian living in Egypt i know a lot better than you do Christians are my friends and neighbors i never hated them or treated them badly because they are my brothers and sisters and this is what is happening in all of Egypt
during the brotherhood rule there were some problems and it was we who stood up to them the people of Egypt
cant deny there are people who are extremists from both sides but law and order is coming back to Egypt and i am sure with el sisi in charge this sort of problems will be a thing from the past

 

[474474]

I don't get why their own pagan history isn't as celebrated.

 

[Falcon29]

You look like Muammar Gaddafi! Am i right @Falcon29

He's looks American to me. Like Matt Damon with glasses.

 

[MarkusS]

once again you speak about things you dont understand
i am Egyptian living in Egypt i know a lot better than you do Christians are my friends and neighbors i never hated them or treated them badly because they are my brothers and sisters and this is what is happening in all of Egypt
during the brotherhood rule there were some problems and it was we who stood up to them the people of Egypt
cant deny there are people who are extremists from both sides but law and order is coming back to Egypt and i am sure with el sisi in charge this sort of problems will be a thing from the past

The typical bullshit. When you ask an egyptian they suddenly all have "christian friends".

I tell you something. Queen Nefertiri ruled egypt at a time when women were equal as men in your nation.

Women today are treated like animals in egypt. They get treated like objects, are gang raped in public.

90% of your female population is victime of female genital mutilation.

You want to tell us that you would take care for the stature of a long dead women...at same time you can´t care for your own women who suffer today.

Your country simply is not worthy to take care for Nefertiri.

Come back when your "female genital mutilated women" rate sinks below 1% and you have a female christian president.

Thank you.

I don't get why their own pagan history isn't as celebrated.

whose pagan history isn´t celebrated?

 

[Steve781]

The typical bullshit. When you ask an egyptian they suddenly all have "christian friends".

I tell you something. Queen Nefertiri ruled egypt at a time when women were equal as men in your nation.

Women today are treated like animals in egypt. They get treated like objects, are gang raped in public.

90% of your female population is victime of female genital mutilation.

You want to tell us that you would take care for the stature of a long dead women...at same time you can´t care for your own women who suffer today.

Your country simply is not worthy to take care for Nefertiri.

Come back when your "female genital mutilated women" rate sinks below 1% and you have a female christian president.

Thank you.




whose pagan history isn´t celebrated?

Bit harsh. Obviously the sexual assaults you see during demonstrations are horrible but Egypt's rate is not very high by global standards.
As I was saying earlier it's perfectly possible to argue without being disrespectful.

 

[MarkusS]

Bit harsh. Obviously the sexual assaults you see during demonstrations are horrible but Egypt's rate is not very high by global standards.
As I was saying earlier it's perfectly possible to argue without being disrespectful.

reality is harsh

Egypt Female Genital Mutilation

"
Ninety-one percent of Egyptian women have had their genitals somehow injured in an attempt to curb sexuality and promote chastity and cleanliness, according to UNICEF's annual report on female genital mutilation. But while 96 percent of Egyptian women aged 45 to 49 have been cut, 81 percent of girls aged 15 to 19 have undergone the surgery, showing a slowly declining trend."

 

[Frogman]

reality is harsh

Egypt Female Genital Mutilation

"
Ninety-one percent of Egyptian women have had their genitals somehow injured in an attempt to curb sexuality and promote chastity and cleanliness, according to UNICEF's annual report on female genital mutilation. But while 96 percent of Egyptian women aged 45 to 49 have been cut, 81 percent of girls aged 15 to 19 have undergone the surgery, showing a slowly declining trend."

So, it has gone from Egypt is unable to secure its antiquities and artifacts (which isn't true) to the artifact belonging to the entirety of humanity and thus should remain in Europe because they 'value' such things (when the majority of stolen antiquities from Egypt and elsewhere are sold to European private collectors) more than the inhabitants of a particular land and now it is has become a discussion about genes, FGM, Copts, and sexual assaults and harassment.

Is it just me or does someone not have any valid arguments and is resorting to taking to moral high ground to justify holding on to something that isn't theirs.

 

[Mahmoud_EGY]

The typical bullshit. When you ask an egyptian they suddenly all have "christian friends".

I tell you something. Queen Nefertiri ruled egypt at a time when women were equal as men in your nation.

Women today are treated like animals in egypt. They get treated like objects, are gang raped in public.

90% of your female population is victime of female genital mutilation.

You want to tell us that you would take care for the stature of a long dead women...at same time you can´t care for your own women who suffer today.

Your country simply is not worthy to take care for Nefertiri.

Come back when your "female genital mutilated women" rate sinks below 1% and you have a female christian president.

Thank you.

i will not gain anything if i lie i am telling the truth i am not a diplomat or represent anything to lie all Egyptians are my brothers
as for the rest i replied many times i will not repeat myself everyday if you have something new say it