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THE MATH OF HOW CHINA SURPASSES USA IN 5 YEARS

Not mentioning PM Li admit there r 600 millions Cnese earning less than 140 USD per month .

Most of Cnese r very poor, only 100 or 200 millions r rich.
Ha ha ha funny, poor Vietnamese with a PER capita GDP of more than $2000 laugh at the Chinese with an per capita GDP of $10,000. The poorest people in China are given free housing :omghaha: :omghaha: :omghaha: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
During the Double 11 festival in 2020, the two major platforms of Tmall and JD.com will have nearly 120 billion U.S. dollars in one day sales. In addition to these two platforms, there are several well-known e-commerce platforms in China that also have good sales results. This is what the Vietnamese say is the result of the Chinese being poor :omghaha: :omghaha: :rofl: :rofl:
 
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Ha ha ha funny, poor Vietnamese with a PER capita GDP of more than $2000 laugh at the Chinese with an per capita GDP of $10,000. The poorest people in China are given free housing :omghaha: :omghaha: :omghaha: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
During the Double 11 festival in 2020, the two major platforms of Tmall and JD.com will have nearly 120 billion U.S. dollars in one day sales. In addition to these two platforms, there are several well-known e-commerce platforms in China that also have good sales results. This is what the Vietnamese say is the result of the Chinese being poor :omghaha: :omghaha: :rofl: :rofl:
Wow, free houses ,and those Cnese still trying to enter VN begging for jobs at all cost :lol:

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Due to unemployment, more than 100 Chinese people who illegally crossed the border into Vietnam looking for work were arrested

Nguyen Minh • 10:23, October 30, 201029 views

Vietnamese border forces recently arrested more than 100 Chinese migrant workers who illegally entered Vietnam from Guangxi - an autonomous region in southern China, bordering Vietnam.
 
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Not mentioning PM Li admit there r 600 millions Cnese earning less than 140 USD per month .

Most of Cnese r very poor, only 100 or 200 millions r rich.
That's not wage, but disposable income in households per capita.
 
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Exactly, it’s pathetic. Year after year, I hear this and it still doesn’t happen. The day it does happen, is it cause for celebration when you have 4-5 times the population?

Oh it is happening , alright. If you are blinded to it, it is your problem mate.
Lets put it in straight jacket.
USA has accumulated the overwhelming force for one reason and one reason alone after WW II.
To control the world through it and establish its hegemony.
As USA weakened or matched, use what term you prefer, its military hegemony would be challenged, which is gradually. Once that is done, USA would be half of the force it is financially.
As the figures shows that USA/Russia less than 50% trade in Dollars.
USA/China 56% from 92%.
The grip is slipping.

It is multi facade control USA had which had to be loosen for the world to breath freely again.
Only one aspect of the coin is discussed in OP, the progress of China. What is not discussed the effect of USA's downfall, both militarily and financially. That would be more sever than you imagine. Once it happens, the USA would not be able to cushioned the impact.

Just one aspect of it is enough to open your eyes. The % of the world trade now done in US Dollar.

Here is the low down.

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USA Dollar prevail in Loans and Borrowing worldwide. Most loans especially by the emerging economies in the world are taking in US Dollars.

We observed compared to Developed Countries and Emerging Europe, in rest of the world the % is between 87% to 97%.

Now Look at US Dollar's dominance in the trade against other currencies/countries around the world.

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We see that except Canada, the share of US trade is minimal but use of US Dollar in the trade is overwhelming. The biggest usage of USA dollar among the countries projected on the graphs, are India and Pakistan. While share of USA trade is less but use of Dollar for trade is among the highest. Even UK and Japan uses more US dollars for their trade than USA share in their trade.

Once this trend is reversed USA would go down rapidly economically. The day USA would have to hold the reserves of other currencies to buy the goods and services from rest of the world. USA dominance would end and it would be just another country like many, without much influence.
They say Rome wasn't built in a day. Same is true for USA hegemony, it has 7 decades of control of the world ever since WW II. That is the message given by the USA to Europe that it is my turn. I would not make colonies, I will make "depended slaves".

As for white race, the stories goes back to 500 years.
So my friend, world would be set free, it is happening gradually in last 70 years. First the colonies gone, now is the turn of using "Military Power" to subjugate the world. It would come to an end, without shadow of a doubt.
 
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Oh it is happening , alright. If you are blinded to it, it is your problem mate.
Lets put it in straight jacket.
USA has accumulated the overwhelming force for one reason and one reason alone after WW II.
To control the world through it and establish its hegemony.
As USA weakened or matched, use what term you prefer, its military hegemony would be challenged, which is gradually. Once that is done, USA would be half of the force it is financially.
As the figures shows that USA/Russia less than 50% trade in Dollars.
USA/China 56% from 92%.
The grip is slipping.

It is multi facade control USA had which had to be loosen for the world to breath freely again.
Only one aspect of the coin is discussed in OP, the progress of China. What is not discussed the effect of USA's downfall, both militarily and financially. That would be more sever than you imagine. Once it happens, the USA would not be able to cushioned the impact.

Just one aspect of it is enough to open your eyes. The % of the world trade now done in US Dollar.

Here is the low down.

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USA Dollar prevail in Loans and Borrowing worldwide. Most loans especially by the emerging economies in the world are taking in US Dollars.

We observed compared to Developed Countries and Emerging Europe, in rest of the world the % is between 87% to 97%.

Now Look at US Dollar's dominance in the trade against other currencies/countries around the world.

View attachment 687964

We see that except Canada, the share of US trade is minimal but use of US Dollar in the trade is overwhelming. The biggest usage of USA dollar among the countries projected on the graphs, are India and Pakistan. While share of USA trade is less but use of Dollar for trade is among the highest. Even UK and Japan uses more US dollars for their trade than USA share in their trade.

Once this trend is reversed USA would go down rapidly economically. The day USA would have to hold the reserves of other currencies to buy the goods and services from rest of the world. USA dominance would end and it would be just another country like many, without much influence.
They say Rome wasn't built in a day. Same is true for USA hegemony, it has 70 decades of control of the world ever since WW II. That is the message given by the USA to Europe that it is my turn. I would not make colonies, I will make "depended slaves".

As for white race, the stories goes back to 500 years.
So my friend, world would be set free, it is happening gradually in last 70 years. First the colonies gone, now is the turn of using "Military Power" to subjugate the world. It would come to an end, without shadow of a doubt.

You’ve nailed it.
 
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THE MATH OF HOW CHINA SURPASSES USA IN 5 YEARS

Most Americans cannot imagine China being the #1 economy, since they are constantly fed propaganda about America’s greatness and China’s imminent collapse. But the shocking fact is that China can very well surpass the U.S. by 2025. Here’s the math. I will try to explain it in a way that anyone can understand.

First, a quick clarification. When you hear the official GDP growth numbers, they refer to the “real” GDP growth, which is nominal GDP growth minus the inflation.

US GDP: Let’s assume that the US GDP growth for 2020-2025 is the same as the last five years.

Since 2020 is not over yet, we will roughly use IMF’s prediction that the real US GDP will shrink by 6.6%. I will say that the nominal GDP will shrink by 5%. In 2019, US GDP was $21.4 trillion. That means, US GDP this year will be $20.33 trillion.

The US GDP grew from $18.22 to $20.33 in the last five years. That’s an 11.5% growth. Generously assuming the same growth for the next five years, US GDP will be $20.33 x 1.115 = $22.7 trillion by 2025.

Thus, US GDP in 2025 = $22.7 trillion

(The math is generous, because the US is drowning in debt — which will be very likely $30 trillion by the end of 2020. A lot of bad things can happen in the US in the next five years).

China’s GDP: China is the only major country that’s expected to grow this year. In Q2 2020, China’s nominal GDP grew 5.5%! Let’s assume 4% growth this year (which means a real GDP growth of less than 2%). With a GDP of $14.4 trillion in 2019, China will end this year with $15 trillion.

Now, between 2015 and 2020, China’s GDP grew 36.7% (from $11t to $15t). Let’s assume a SLOWER growth rate of 27% for the next five years.

That means, China’s GDP will be $15 x 1.27 = $19 trillion in 2025.

Wait! 19 is less than 22.7!!

Yes, in this case, the chart would like this:
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Yes, but here’s the catch. Assume that Chinese Yuan appreciates 20% over the next five years. Thus, the GDP will get a 20% boost, when you convert Yuan to US dollar. And, 20% of 19 = 3.8

Thus, China’s GDP in 2025 = $19t + $3.8t = $22.8 trillion!

China beats the US.

With stronger Yuan, the chart would look like this:
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But … can Yuan appreciate? Isn’t China’s economy export oriented? And is the Yuan worth anything?

Well, China has changed a lot. Now, exports are only 18% of GDP. And don’t forget that imports are 15% of GDP. So, stronger Yuan means cheaper oil, coal, iron ore etc., which is a good thing for the world’s largest importer of raw materials.

Also, China is becoming a more consumption-oriented economy, where a stronger currency will be beneficial for the world’s largest middle class. For decades, the US has been complaining that China has artificially kept the Yuan low. Well, now the US can’t complain anymore.

Just in the last couple of months, the Yuan has appreciated 3% against USD. And Goldman Sachs predicts that the Yuan will appreciate 4% in the next year. This, it can very well recur for the next five years. Furthermore, foreign investors are gobbling up Chinese bonds, which will increase the value of Yuan (more demand = more value).
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Chinese Yuan is also far more accepted around the world than Americans are led to believe. Already, China is conducting 37% of its cross-border transactions in RMB (Yuan). US dollar’s share in China’s trade has dropped from 92% to 56% in the last few years. In Russia-China trade, US dollar’s share is now less than 50%.
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Last but the least, China will soon introduce its digital Yuan (“DCEP”) to the world. It’s already being used within China. This will be the beginning of internationalization of Yuan and a possible challenge to US dollar’s hegemony. Many countries would gladly use DCEP to avoid the probing eyes and sanctions of the US.

Thus, with reasonable growth and a strengthening Yuan, China can surpass the US by 2025. Don’t say you weren’t warned!

https://worldaffairs.blog/2020/07/20/the-math-of-how-china-surpasses-usa-in-5-years/

Still won’t be able to design a decent fighter jet engine or state of the art chip. :rolleyes: Chinese are posers at best.
 
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Still won’t be able to design a decent fighter jet engine or state of the art chip. :rolleyes: Chinese are posers at best.

WS-10 engine are currently equipped on J-10C, J-11D, J-15, J-16, J-20.

Kirin 9000 chip by Huawei is one of the most advanced chips in the world. China has advanced chips for nearly every category. Go look at the Chinese Semiconductor thread for more information.
 
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WS-10 engine are currently equipped on J-10C, J-11D, J-15, J-16, J-20.

Kirin 9000 chip by Huawei is one of the most advanced chips in the world. China has advanced chips for nearly every category. Go look at the Chinese Semiconductor thread for more information.

Please! Convince the Pakistanis to fit Chinese engines on JF17 then we have something to talk about.

China is good at implementation not with creation.
I think this thread is about GDP.

Glorified sweat shop. Chinese are just as creative as a rock.
 
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We are just sweatshops, India is the global creativity, innovation and patent filing center.

I doubt you have any idea about the quality of patents filed by the Chinese :disagree:

Yes the first thought crooses any one when the think of innovative nation is China :lol: . Bunch of copying posers!
 
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I doubt you have any idea about the quality of patents filed by the Chinese :disagree:

Yes the first thought crooses any one when the think of innovative nation is China :lol: . Bunch of copying posers!
Why are you angry, I m agreeing with you. China is just sweatshops, India is the global creativity, innovation and patent filing center. You guys keep US up at night, they worry about you overtaking them in high tech every day.
Great work, Indians , hats off to you for your great achievements in recent years.
 
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Why are you angry, I m agreeing with you. China is just sweatshops, India is the global creativity, innovation and patent filing center. You guys keep US up at night, they worry about you overtaking them in high tech every day.
Great work, Indians , hats off to you for your great achievements in recent years.

Not just sweatshops, glorified sweatshops :cheers:
 
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