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THE MATH OF HOW CHINA SURPASSES USA IN 5 YEARS

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THE MATH OF HOW CHINA SURPASSES USA IN 5 YEARS

Most Americans cannot imagine China being the #1 economy, since they are constantly fed propaganda about America’s greatness and China’s imminent collapse. But the shocking fact is that China can very well surpass the U.S. by 2025. Here’s the math. I will try to explain it in a way that anyone can understand.

First, a quick clarification. When you hear the official GDP growth numbers, they refer to the “real” GDP growth, which is nominal GDP growth minus the inflation.

US GDP: Let’s assume that the US GDP growth for 2020-2025 is the same as the last five years.

Since 2020 is not over yet, we will roughly use IMF’s prediction that the real US GDP will shrink by 6.6%. I will say that the nominal GDP will shrink by 5%. In 2019, US GDP was $21.4 trillion. That means, US GDP this year will be $20.33 trillion.

The US GDP grew from $18.22 to $20.33 in the last five years. That’s an 11.5% growth. Generously assuming the same growth for the next five years, US GDP will be $20.33 x 1.115 = $22.7 trillion by 2025.

Thus, US GDP in 2025 = $22.7 trillion

(The math is generous, because the US is drowning in debt — which will be very likely $30 trillion by the end of 2020. A lot of bad things can happen in the US in the next five years).

China’s GDP: China is the only major country that’s expected to grow this year. In Q2 2020, China’s nominal GDP grew 5.5%! Let’s assume 4% growth this year (which means a real GDP growth of less than 2%). With a GDP of $14.4 trillion in 2019, China will end this year with $15 trillion.

Now, between 2015 and 2020, China’s GDP grew 36.7% (from $11t to $15t). Let’s assume a SLOWER growth rate of 27% for the next five years.

That means, China’s GDP will be $15 x 1.27 = $19 trillion in 2025.

Wait! 19 is less than 22.7!!

Yes, in this case, the chart would like this:
china-us-gdp-2020-2025-stable-yuan.png

Yes, but here’s the catch. Assume that Chinese Yuan appreciates 20% over the next five years. Thus, the GDP will get a 20% boost, when you convert Yuan to US dollar. And, 20% of 19 = 3.8

Thus, China’s GDP in 2025 = $19t + $3.8t = $22.8 trillion!

China beats the US.

With stronger Yuan, the chart would look like this:
china-us-gdp-2020-2025-stronger-yuan.png

But … can Yuan appreciate? Isn’t China’s economy export oriented? And is the Yuan worth anything?

Well, China has changed a lot. Now, exports are only 18% of GDP. And don’t forget that imports are 15% of GDP. So, stronger Yuan means cheaper oil, coal, iron ore etc., which is a good thing for the world’s largest importer of raw materials.

Also, China is becoming a more consumption-oriented economy, where a stronger currency will be beneficial for the world’s largest middle class. For decades, the US has been complaining that China has artificially kept the Yuan low. Well, now the US can’t complain anymore.

Just in the last couple of months, the Yuan has appreciated 3% against USD. And Goldman Sachs predicts that the Yuan will appreciate 4% in the next year. This, it can very well recur for the next five years. Furthermore, foreign investors are gobbling up Chinese bonds, which will increase the value of Yuan (more demand = more value).
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Chinese Yuan is also far more accepted around the world than Americans are led to believe. Already, China is conducting 37% of its cross-border transactions in RMB (Yuan). US dollar’s share in China’s trade has dropped from 92% to 56% in the last few years. In Russia-China trade, US dollar’s share is now less than 50%.
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Last but the least, China will soon introduce its digital Yuan (“DCEP”) to the world. It’s already being used within China. This will be the beginning of internationalization of Yuan and a possible challenge to US dollar’s hegemony. Many countries would gladly use DCEP to avoid the probing eyes and sanctions of the US.

Thus, with reasonable growth and a strengthening Yuan, China can surpass the US by 2025. Don’t say you weren’t warned!

https://worldaffairs.blog/2020/07/20/the-math-of-how-china-surpasses-usa-in-5-years/
 
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I've been hearing about this for around 15 years, and back then it was still "in 5 years"...

Even if it happens, it will probably not be a good thing.
 
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I've been hearing about this for around 15 years, and back then it was still "in 5 years"...

Even if it happens, it will probably not be a good thing.
15 years ago China's GDP was even behind Japan and Germany, France and Britain... where did you hear it?

China's 2004 GDP ranks 6th in world economy
Updated: 2005-12-20 10:34

China on Tuesday revised its GDP in 2004 to US$1.93 trillion, which means the country has overtaken Italy to rank 6th in world economy.
 
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China has almost 5 times the population with a huge workforce.

How you haven't passed us is more the question.
That answer was the vast majority in previous years were poor farmers.


Exactly, it’s pathetic. Year after year, I hear this and it still doesn’t happen. The day it does happen, is it cause for celebration when you have 4-5 times the population?
 
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China has almost 5 times the population with a huge workforce.

How you haven't passed us is more the question.
That answer was the vast majority in previous years were poor farmers.


You need to learn economy. It has surpassed US several years ago in term of PPP, and is predicted to surpass US in nominal GDP by 2030.
 
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Exactly, it’s pathetic. Year after year, I hear this and it still doesn’t happen. The day it does happen, is it cause for celebration when you have 4-5 times the population?


You can't hear ignorantly. It has happened in 2014 in term of PPP.

https://www.businessinsider.com/china-overtakes-us-as-worlds-largest-economy-2014-10?r=US&IR=T

Be patient, it will almost certainly be 3x US economy someday.
No country can take over US overnight, there is speed there is time.
 
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You need to learn economy. It has surpassed US several years ago in term of PPP, and is predicted to surpass US in nominal GDP by 2030.

You need to learn about population and poverty.
Why wasn't it in 1910, 1920, 1930, 1940, 1950, 1960, 1970, 1980, 1990, 2000...

That answer was the vast majority in previous years were poor farmers.
 
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I feel that US has become laid back with no challenge in the world. Will China surpass US in 5 years? I doubt it but it will certainly force US to get back to the days of post WWII competition with USSR. Good times ahead.
 
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You need to learn about population and poverty.
Why wasn't it in 1910, 1920, 1930, 1940, 1950, 1960, 1970, 1980, 1990, 2000...

That answer was the vast majority in previous years were poor farmers.

Those time was the time for US to surpass China, not the other way around :laugh:
That means: China had been the world largest economy at that time, hence no need for China to catch up. China's economy was the largest in the world during 19th century before overtaken by US in 1890.

The major cause why US could surpass China was due to the the China decline caused by western invasion and corruption in China.
 
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I feel that US has become laid back with no challenge in the world. Will China surpass US in 5 years? I doubt it but it will certainly force US to get back to the days of post WWII competition with USSR. Good times ahead.

US is facing unprecedented rivalry. China has potential and driving force larger than that of US.
 
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