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The Lengends of the Dalai Lama

So, by your logic, Indian has been a colony of your old British white

slave master, India should be a colony forever ?

Stupid rant , now i finally realized 81 IQ is not there for nothing !

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Dude, its not about going back to our previous states? The point is free or occupied. Tibet was free for a major part of its history and devoid of any Chinese control. So it should be free now.

And lets not go into who recognizes whom as an independent nation. Did US or other western powers ever recognize India as an independent country before it won its independence in 1947? So recognition of a country's independence isnt exactly a great logic, is it?
 
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So, by your logic, Indian has been a colony of your old British white

slave master, India should be a colony forever ?

Stupid rant , now i finally realized 81 IQ is not there for nothing !

:smitten::pakistan::china:


You should get your logic first.
Indians wanted freedom and so they got it from British colonization.
Similarly Tibetans want freedom from Chinese colonization :tup:.
 
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Dude, its not about going back to our previous states? The point is free or occupied. Tibet was free for a major part of its history and devoid of any Chinese control. So it should be free now.

And lets not go into who recognizes whom as an independent nation. Did US or other western powers ever recognize India as an independent country before it won its independence in 1947? So recognition of a country's independence isnt exactly a great logic, is it?

Yeah, you are right, lets not get into reconization of a nation theory ?

Why, because thats the reason you ran out of bullets for your

argument, understandable.

Please do yourself a favour, stop your unreasonable rant. Thanks

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great joke buddy :rofl:

First get your human rights and before that get the permission to post from your govt. and then worry about others :cheers:

Hey buddy, no offence, but are you one of the 650 million ?

If yes, do speak up to GOI, "We want toilets"

What do you think ? :smitten::china:
 
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I believe all that you say about the Dalai Lama.

He is a Nazi symphathizer, is dictatorial, a liar and a megalomaniac.

Plus the Tibetans are very violent people. Even their monks carry iron rods

Hmmm...but I still cant understand why China invaded his country. Are the above meant to be justifications for China's aggression in 52?

And yes he is only the religious leader of the Tibetans, but being an exiled and exploited community he is their only hope and the one they look upto. Wasn't Prophet Muhammad a religious leader as well. But didn't he get all the Arab tribes together to fight against their enemies?

china went into tibet to bring control back to chinese lands which include tibet that was at the time under the control of the dalai lama, there is no dispute that tibet is a part of china, thus how is it an invasion if we're sending troops to our own land? keep in mind they had defacto independence(as did many other areas) due to weakness of china at the time but internationally tibet even at that time was considered a part of china.
 
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Dalai lama is a spiritual leader who wants his people to continue their traditions and culture as a free community and a country. He is a symbol of Tibet and credit must go to him that he is leading the freedom movement in a non violent way.:cheers:

actually no, he admits tibet is a part of china but want more "Autonomy"
 
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Hey buddy, no offence, but are you one of the 650 million ?

If yes, do speak up to GOI, "We want toilets"

What do you think ? :smitten::china:
the answer lies in post 16.

we Indians don't think that way like govt should do this or do that. Instead we want to do some thing to the country.
unlike chinese who are under strict restrictions of your communists.
That is the main difference between a democracy and communism.
In democracy people has the real power where are in communism the communist govt has the real power. :cheers:
we are a country of 1 billion and growing, things are changing slowly and we ill improve the living conditions of our people. just to remind you that conditions are not worse as told by you.
By the way do you think all the people in china are getting the benefits of your country if so why there is a revolt in Uighur province and Tibet.The fact is the chinese development is confined to eastwards where the majority are Hans.
 
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the answer lies in post 16.

we Indians don't think that way like govt should do this or do that. Instead we want to do some thing to the country.
unlike chinese who are under strict restrictions of your communists.
That is the main difference between a democracy and communism.
In democracy people has the real power where are in communism the communist govt has the real power. :cheers:

Relax, this guy has a toilet fixation. Notice how many times this issue has been raised in his posts.
 
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actually no, he admits tibet is a part of china but want more "Autonomy"

very funny buddy. Freedom doesn't mean autonomy :cheers:.

---------- Post added at 01:46 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:45 PM ----------

Relax, this guy has a toilet fixation. Notice how many times this issue has been raised in his posts.

:lol::lol::lol:
 
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"World Governments Recognize Tibet: The Tibetan Perspective
International law states that recognition can occur by explicit or implicit acts including treaties, negotiations, and diplomatic relations. Mongolia and Tibet signed a formal treaty of recognition in 1913. Historically, Nepal and Tibet had peace treaties. Tibetºs independence was also confirmed at the Treaty of Simla (1914) which was concluded by Tibet and British India. In 1949, Tibet maintained diplomatic, economic, and cultural relations with such countries as Nepal, Sikkim, Mongolia, China, British India, and to some extent, Russia and Japan. Further, Nepal maintained an Ambassador in Lhasa and told the U.N. in 1949 that it conducted international relations with Tibet. In fact, Britian, Bhutan, India, and even China also maintained diplomatic missions in Tibet's capitol, Lhasa. The Tibetan Foreign Office conducted talks with President Franklin D. Roosevelt when he sent representatives to Lhasa to discuss the allied war effort against Japan during World War II. In 1950, El Salvador formally requested that China's aggression against Tibet be placed on the agenda of the U.N. General Assembly. The issue was not discussed. However, during four U.N. General Assembly debates on Tibet (1959, 1960, 1961, & 1965), many countries (e.g., Philippines, Nicaragua, Thailand. United States, Ireland) openly stated that Tibet was an independent country illegally occupied by China. In fact, the U.N. passed three resolutions (1959, 1961, & 1965) concerning Tibet stating that Tibetans were deprived of their inalienable rights to self-determination. Even Mao Zedong during the Long March admitted that Tibet was an independent country when he passed through the border regions of Tibet remarking, "This is our only foreign debt, and some day we must pay the Mantzu (sic) and the Tibetans for the provisions we were obliged to take from them." Tibetans clearly constitute a people under international law, as described, for instance, by the UNESCO International Meeting of Experts on Further Study of the Concept of the Rights of Peoples. They are a distinct people and fulfill all the characteristics of this concept: commonality of history, shared language, culture, and ethnicity. " Source -http://www.rangzen.com/history/views.htm

Now there are divergent views on whether Tibet was a prt of China or not. But the truth is that before the Mongol invasion in 13th century, Tibet n China were never under the same ruler. And if China didnt invade Tibet, then what was the battle in Chamdo in 1950? A cultural exchange festival?

And I guess thousands of Tibetans that migrated to India in 1950s and set up a govt. in exile just for fun! I mean one day they got up from sleep and said, "Hey I know what. Gather all the villagers and lets go to India".

ill just go ahead a give one fact that throw out ur theory, go ask any official from any country and they will deny tibet is or was(in 1900's) a independent country. and yes this includes the british,Nepal, Sikkim, Mongolia, China, India, Russia and Japan.

and you wanna talk invasion? north india and south india invaded each other countless times, north us and southern us invaded each other as well(civil war), British isles was a bunch of kingdoms at war with eachother at one point, as was france, germandy and every country in europe, infact every country in the world had been or has invaded.

in the 50's there was definently fighting as the chinese government reassert themselves over all of china once the civil war was more or less over.

those monks and their followers didnt leave because they wanted to, they left because the regime they created which keep the monks on the top of sociaty while everyone else was a peasant had collapsed.
 
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Buddy then why you want the people in this form to know about Dalai Lama if he does not have any importance and Tibet is not a country.
:rofl:

the western/indian media has been rolling out misleading/false information about his man for decades to make a a puppet to use against china, maybe he wants to be nice and let people know the truth or if you don't believe it then at least different points of view.
 
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ill just go ahead a give one fact that throw out ur theory, go ask any official from any country and they will deny tibet is or was(in 1900's) a independent country. and yes this includes the british,Nepal, Sikkim, Mongolia, China, India, Russia and Japan.

and you wanna talk invasion? north india and south india invaded each other countless times, north us and southern us invaded each other as well(civil war), British isles was a bunch of kingdoms at war with eachother at one point, as was france, germandy and every country in europe, infact every country in the world had been or has invaded.

in the 50's there was definently fighting as the chinese government reassert themselves over all of china once the civil war was more or less over.

those monks and their followers didnt leave because they wanted to, they left because the regime they created which keep the monks on the top of sociaty while everyone else was a peasant had collapsed.

"Tibet under the People's Republic of China
Main article: Tibet since 1950

With the invasion of Tibet in 1950 and the subsequent Seventeen Point Agreement, the PRC asserted control over Tibet.

Chinese sources generally claim progress towards a prosperous and free society in Tibet, with its pillars being economic development, legal advancement, and peasant emancipation. These claims, however, have been refuted by the Tibet Government-in-Exile and some indigenous Tibetans, who claim of genocide in Tibet from the Chinese government, comparing it to Nazi Germany.[37] The official doctrine of the PRC classifies Tibetans as one of its 56 recognized ethnic groups and part of the greater Zhonghua Minzu or multi-ethnic Chinese nation. Warren Smith, an independent scholar and a broadcaster with the Tibetan Service of Radio Free Asia[38][39][40], whose work became focused on Tibetan history and politics after spending five months in Tibet in 1982, portrays the Chinese as chauvinists who believe they are superior to the Tibetans, and claims that the Chinese use torture, coercion and starvation to control the Tibetans." ---- from wikipedia

once Tibet was sovereign, now Tibetans want freedom from china because of oppression they are suffreing.
 
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china went into tibet to bring control back to chinese lands which include tibet that was at the time under the control of the dalai lama, there is no dispute that tibet is a part of china, thus how is it an invasion if we're sending troops to our own land? keep in mind they had defacto independence(as did many other areas) due to weakness of china at the time but internationally tibet even at that time was considered a part of china.

Chinese land? Is that why they fought a bloody battle at Chamda in 1950?

Oh wait, this must be one of those Chinese world domination theories like "when a Chinese naval commander discovered America even before Columbus did".
 
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the western/indian media has been rolling out misleading/false information about his man for decades to make a a puppet to use against china, maybe he wants to be nice and let people know the truth or if you don't believe it then at least different points of view.

Buddy This not about propaganda. what about the riots that took place before the Olympics. can you say that is also propaganda by media.
 
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ill just go ahead a give one fact that throw out ur theory, go ask any official from any country and they will deny tibet is or was(in 1900's) a independent country. and yes this includes the british,Nepal, Sikkim, Mongolia, China, India, Russia and Japan.

and you wanna talk invasion? north india and south india invaded each other countless times, north us and southern us invaded each other as well(civil war), British isles was a bunch of kingdoms at war with eachother at one point, as was france, germandy and every country in europe, infact every country in the world had been or has invaded.

in the 50's there was definently fighting as the chinese government reassert themselves over all of china once the civil war was more or less over.

those monks and their followers didnt leave because they wanted to, they left because the regime they created which keep the monks on the top of sociaty while everyone else was a peasant had collapsed.

South India invaded North India? When did that happen?

Given your point about the British isles and France and US being involved in Civil Wars. Does the US Confederate South still wants its independence? Does Scotland still want its independence? No...!

Are the Southereners settled in Mexico, with their own in-exile govt?
Are the Scots, settled in France with their in-exile government? No...!

The Tibetans....? yes they are...!
 
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