The lasting lesson of 1962

[Gandhi G in da house]

you know i was being empathetic here and yet you had to pass that cheap jibe.
shame

do you seriously expect anything other than that from him ? How long have you been around ? anyways , they( tibetan refugees) are here and most of them seem happy . buddhism originates from India and is a dharmic religion like hinduism , jainism and sikhism . We had a duty to protect them . we have never allowed them to carry out violent activities from our land. they are mostly a peaceful bunch of people who just want to protect their culture .We did well .

 

[Martian2]

^^^ Do you have any Idea of who attack whom in 1962 or you are just like many other chinese who beleive india started the War?

Feel free to read the entire report from the CIA via the Freedom Of Information Act (FOIA). You Indians are clearly the warmongers.

http://www.foia.cia.gov/CPE/POLO/polo-09.pdf

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He accepted their view that flanking moves against Chinese posts ... Evidence suggests that in June 1962 Indian advances behind PLA border posts convinced the Chinese leaders that ...... The war of notes became open when Nehru on 20 ..."

 

[pmukherjee]

The only lasting lesson of that war is never to provoke a powerful enemy and hope he doesn't attack. All those quotations from Sun Tzu are meaningless. There was really no element of surprise in the Chinese actions. The Ladakh front was already open. It was we who had opened up the Tawang front after crossing the Nyamjang Chu and climbing onto the Thagla. So the Chinese attacked us at both the places. Anyone could have predicted that. The surprise lay in our leadership believing that they could provoke China and that China would oblige them by not attacking. The nation paid for the naivette and imbecility of our politicians. The soldiers died in a war they were not prepared to fight.

The lasting lesson is that if one wishes to provoke a powerful enemy, it had better be prepared to fight. Geographic claims have no meaning unless they can be enforced by military power. A militarily weak nation has no business taking of peace and peaceful coexistence. Philosophy and idealism have no place unless one has a strong military to back all that hot air.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Let's be honest. Nehru was a cold and calculating strategist.

Very true.

He saw that China was in a very difficult spot. We had recently fought against the superpower USA in the Korean War, and were also alienated from the superpower USSR due to the Sino-Soviet split.

Then of course, there was also the biggest famine in Chinese history, from 1958-1961.

Nehru saw a weak and crumbling China, surrounded by formidable enemies (USA and USSR).

So he decided to launch his Forward Policy to take Aksai Chin from us. But as history shows, he badly underestimated us.

 

[Kesang]

Feel free to read the entire report from the CIA via the Freedom Of Information Act (FOIA). You Indians are clearly the warmongers.

http://www.foia.cia.gov/CPE/POLO/polo-09.pdf

"www.foia.cia.gov/CPE/POLO/polo-09.pdf
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat
He accepted their view that flanking moves against Chinese posts ... Evidence suggests that in June 1962 Indian advances behind PLA border posts convinced the Chinese leaders that ...... The war of notes became open when Nehru on 20 ..."

A single sentence of an article proved that India was going to attack china? According to your logic china will attack India anytime because china cross our border in daily basis unlike India who even did not cross your border( Aksia chin was part of India that time) and india should attack china before china do.

 

[Martian2]

A single sentence of an article proved that India was going to attack china? According to your logic china will attack India anytime because china cross our border in daily basis unlike India who even did not cross your border( Aksia chin was part of India that time)

I'm only going to say this for the last time.

India moved the border posts into China. That's called invading another country's territory. You started the war. Don't try to talk your way out of it.

You should confess and apologize. Stop being a weasel and trying to deny responsibility.

What do you think border posts are? They demarcate the boundary between two countries. You Indians kept moving the border posts deep into Chinese territory!! If that isn't an invasion then what the hell is it?

 

[Kesang]

I'm only going to say this for the last time.

India moved the border posts into China. That's called invading another country's territory. You started the war. Don't try to talk your way out of it.

You should confess and apologize. Stop being a weasel and trying to deny responsibility.

What do you think border posts are? They demarcate the boundary between two countries. You Indians kept moving the border posts deep into Chinese territory!! If that isn't an invasion then what the hell is it?

That means PLA invading india in daily basis. BTW war starter in October not in june

 

[ILLUMINATO]

To the OP , are you 70 years old ? 1962 happened 50 years ago. That is half a bloody century ago . Get over it.

Get over with it ???
It's easier said than done.Till they illegally possesses our 42,000 sq k.m of land in Aksai Chin, it would keep pinching me.
It is said that those who forget their history,history revisits them to remind their past.

 

[Martian2]

Get over with it ???
It's easier said than done.Till they illegally possesses our 42,000 sq k.m of land in Aksai Chin, it would keep pinching me.
It is said that those who forget their history,history revisits them to remind them.

Aksai Chin was disputed territory. China claimed it and controlled it. If you want to dispute Aksai Chin then send your troops there.

However, you moved the clearly demarcated border posts in South Tibet. Your Indian aggression was a clear declaration of war.

 

[rkjindal91]

Those mocking at Nehru must remember that he was one of the most respected freedom fighter of Indian freedom struggle. That respect came for some reason. And for the same reason he was the first PM of independent India.

And for those boasting about the might
and strength of the Chinese Army, they
must remember that whatever policy
mistakes were made by the Indian side,
you people call it ''The Forward Policy of
India''; Nehru was so much serious about making Indo-Sino axis(that must have been the supreme block in the world by now) that he could never dreamt of a chinese aggression over a few hundred square kilometers. He never believed the first inputs from the forward bases about Chinese attack and kept his army at bay at the initial phase that turned the tables.

The worst policy error was instead from China itself. They never talked about the
border issue at official level. They were so scared by so called ''The forward policy'' that they launched a full fledge attack at once.

What could you expect from a man like
Nehru. All his vision and dream which he
followed since 1947 just fizzed at once.
His 'Hindi Chini bhai bhai' saying back
stabbed him. At the other hand Chinese Leadership was so short sighted in its approach that it fought with the neighbour over a few sq hundred kilometer of land, otherwise the whole world would have been at the feet of Indo-China Axis. And mind you still do the same thing.

 

[rkjindal91]

Those mocking at Nehru must remember that he was one of the most respected freedom fighter of Indian freedom struggle. That respect came for some reason. And for the same reason he was the first PM of independent India.

And for those boasting about the might
and strength of the Chinese Army, they
must remember that whatever policy
mistakes were made by the Indian side,
you people call it ''The Forward Policy of
India''; Nehru was so much serious about making Indo-Sino axis(that must have been the supreme block in the world by now) that he could never dreamt of a chinese aggression over a few hundred square kilometers. He never believed the first inputs from the forward bases about Chinese attack and kept his army at bay at the initial phase that turned the tables.

The worst policy error was instead from China itself. They never talked about the
border issue at official level. They were so scared by so called ''The forward policy'' that they launched a full fledge attack at once.

What could you expect from a man like
Nehru. All his vision and dream which he
followed since 1947 just fizzed at once.
His 'Hindi Chini bhai bhai' saying back
stabbed him. At the other hand Chinese Leadership was so short sighted in its approach that it fought with the neighbour over a few sq hundred kilometer of land, otherwise the whole world would have been at the feet of Indo-China Axis. And mind chinese still do the same thing.

The whole of chinese govt. Is short sighted.

 

[AADHAAR]

Aksai Chin was disputed territory. China claimed it and controlled it. If you want to dispute Aksai Chin then send your troops there.

Incorrect. Aksai Chin was and is a part of Ladakh. (read about Sikh-Tibet wars).

China not only invaded Tibet ... but once that was captured, they continued on and moved into Ladakh.

No wonder at some point they would hit the Indian forces (although sparse, at that time).

China invaded not only Tibet, but also Ladakh. This was during the 1950s.


Anyway, India, subsequently, built up it's defences and they of great help during 1971 ... ended in liberation of Bangladesh. Admittedly, the liberation of Tibet is still pending.

 

[Gandhi G in da house]

Aksai Chin was disputed territory. China claimed it and controlled it. If you want to dispute Aksai Chin then send your troops there.

However, you moved the clearly demarcated border posts in South Tibet. Your Indian aggression was a clear declaration of war.

This term cracks me up . Outside the tawang district hardly any tibetan lives in arunachal pradesh .China's claim should never have gone beyond the tawang district in the state of arunachal instead of taking this maximalist position .

 

[ILLUMINATO]

Aksai Chin was disputed territory. China claimed it and controlled it. If you want to dispute Aksai Chin then send your troops there.

However, you moved the clearly demarcated border posts in South Tibet. Your Indian aggression was a clear declaration of war.

Right now we are definitely not in the position to send our troops to claim back Aksai as demarcated by Jonshon line ,but when ever we feel that we can do that,that would be done.
Can't you distinguish between minor incursions and full scale war ??
Your PLA does this on regular basis in Arunachal but they are sorted out in flag meetings. By your logics we should resort to full scale war without trying to resolve through peaceful process.
Come on stop behaving like novice and we know how good you are at morale policing.

 

[newdelhinsa]

Chinis just got lucky that time at few battle fields. Like Army Chief just said there will be bloodshed and we will bleed them spurt and faster they could ever imagine. They should keep Chola Incident in their minds as well.