The last time China got into a fight with Vietnam,it was a Disaster

[BoQ77]

Mr Deng, sorry buddy in 1979 China make frineds with the West, specially U.S.
Last Sino-Vietnam War is about China national interests, worked for Sino-America relationship, and worked for China foreign polity. At last the benefits China got from Sino-Vietnam War, is not on the battilefield, is from economy & technology import from the West.


It's just as the same as former Soviet did nothing to help ur Vietnam when Sino-Vietnam War, each nation only work for their national interests and foreign polity.There r not true friends between different nations.

Did they hurt their own people and troops for their own purpose.
That should not never happen again ... There's another way, always .. better way

 

[cnleio]

Did they hurt their own people and troops for their own purpose.
That should not never happen again ... There's another way, always .. better way

It called sacrifice.

So why need it ? National economy decide government politics, politics decide whether need War, War decide whether men died on the battlefield.

If we stand higher to view the reason of Sino-Vietnam War.
During 1970-1980s it's still COLD WAR most nations selected one side the West or the East, China against former Soviet coz Mao and 1969 Northern border dispute. Although Mao's time China did not openly stand together with West, there was a signal U.S President visited Mao in BeiJing. After Deng pro-west and he believed Russian can not help China and only the West can provide funds & technology to help poor China development, that's China national interest to make Mr Deng to choose a good useful side - the West in the COLD WAR. At that time in Europe NATO face threats from WTO, in Asia former Soviet had invaded Afghan and ur Vietnam invaded Cambodia, Cold War in 1970s~1980s early it's a very good situation for Soviet and her alliance nations. As a new & odd friend (China only socialist country) in West alliance, Mr Deng decided China diplomacy should do something to obtain trust from West alliance. Foreign War is the only thing poor China could do in 1979, and another reason is China dislike ur Vietnamese idea of Indochina Federal, it also will be conflict with China national interests in Southeast Asia.

For West's economy and technology supports and For against ur Inochina Federal plan, Mr Deng decided China join a foreign War with Vietnam. Of course there must be men died in the War, Mr Deng is a hard man but he has eagle eyes and clear head, except dead Chinese soldiers he know a limited war can not hurt China anymore and what benefits China will get from the West through Sino-Vietnam War. After Sino-Vietnam War huge foreign investments from the West will bring money and new technology to boost China economy development.

Inside China, Chinese called Mr Deng as a great militarist and economic chief designer. I think Mr Deng's achievement is the old man saw through the key of WAR, WAR just served for national economy. Without a strong economy, ur country finally will lose in world game.

Chinese believe our soldiers lost in Sino-Vietnam War is for our economy development in 1979 and 1980s, it's Chinese sacrifices for building a strong & powerful China.

 

[BoQ77]

Deng is a clever man, but not wiseman ...
Causing a war, hurting his own people and his neighbor people; turn him into a Polpot or Hitler-like guy ..

In my opinion, Deng just want to test whether the PLA follow his order or not ... so far Chinese leaders always need to test that ...
There's always internal competent among leaderships.

 

[cnleio]

Deng is a clever man, but not wiseman ...
Causing a war, hurting his own people and his neighbor people; turn him into a Polpot or Hitler-like guy ..

In my opinion, Deng just want to test whether the PLA follow his order or not ... so far Chinese leaders always need to test that ...
There's always internal competent among leaderships.

Deng consider much further, anyway we need add West economy + technology supports to China during 1980s. That is his purpose, the poor China need them to develop.

Impossible, the West won't support the socialistic China without did some bad job during COLD WAR. Why the West must help RED CHINA as a friend ? Coz China fought with Soviet and her alliance like Vietnam.

 

[BoQ77]

Deng consider much further, anyway we need add West economy + technology supports to China during 1980s. That is his purpose, the poor China need them to develop.

Impossible, the West won't support the socialistic China without did some bad job during COLD WAR. Why the West must help RED CHINA as a friend ? Coz China fought with Soviet and her alliance like Vietnam.

Fighting your old friends for new friends ? By doing that, you created new enemies while trying to get new friends.

Vietnam motto is slightly different "making friends to former enemies"

 

[cnleio]

Fighting your old friends for new friends ? By doing that, you created new enemies while trying to get new friends.

Vietnam motto is slightly different "making friends to former enemies"

I said between nations the national interest is the most important.

During COLD WAR, China make friends with U.S and Europe, coz they can provide money and technology to help China development but not former Soviet or not Vietnam. What China development need is inside West hands, so Chinese will achieve our purpose to make friends with the West.

Chinese dislike POOR, we try many ways to change our poor situation to become a strong & powerful country and we still continue developing.

Well maybe Chinese was not good at fighting, not good at War, at least Chinese be good at selecting the correct alliance and stay together until final victory. WWI we did, WWII we did, COLD WAR we did ...

 

[BoQ77]

Chinese businessmen are good at making money. That's the most dangerous weapon.

 

[piaoke789]

越南战略很奇怪，学中国的秦王朝,远交近攻. 上个世纪远交苏联,现在远交美国. 可能秦王朝没告诉他这个是大国玩的.

 

[rott]

If don't konw what to say, better shut up, maybe I below my chinese member, but still think higher than you vietnamese, my comments depend on yours.

Way to go, bro!!! Don't let them macacas have their way. You're doing very well.

 

[sweetgrape]

Deng is a clever man, but not wiseman ...
Causing a war, hurting his own people and his neighbor people; turn him into a Polpot or Hitler-like guy ..

In my opinion, Deng just want to test whether the PLA follow his order or not ... so far Chinese leaders always need to test that ...
There's always internal competent among leaderships.

Whether Deng is clever or wise, judged by the history.

While you said Deng cause the war, I also have a question, after Vietnam War, what did your leader do for your countries? build your country or make another war? cleverer or wiser than Deng?

Fighting your old friends for new friends ? By doing that, you created new enemies while trying to get new friends.

Vietnam motto is slightly different "making friends to former enemies"

If that old friends get bad, trying to expand its military and territory, even hurt its friend, he is no longer friends, at this time, whose fault? blame mutually, of course, you think you are right.

Chinese businessmen are good at making money. That's the most dangerous weapon.

Can't understand, if businessmen can't make money, can be called businessmen? not only Chinese businessman, that's businessman common character all over the world, good at making money.

Way to go, bro!!! Don't let them macacas have their way. You're doing very well.

我不觉得越南人适合好好说话，不过他们确实有点白痴。

 

[Beast]

Whether Deng is clever or wise, judged by the history.

While you said Deng cause the war, I also have a question, after Vietnam War, what did your leader do for your countries? build your country or make another war? cleverer or wiser than Deng?

Vietnamese leader choose the wrong card of pitting their hope on the decaying Soviet Union who subsequently collaspe a decade later.

 

[Soryu]

Mr Deng, sorry buddy in 1979 China make frineds with the West, specially U.S.
Last Sino-Vietnam War is about China national interests, worked for Sino-America relationship, and worked for China foreign polity. At last the benefits China got from Sino-Vietnam War, is not on the battilefield, is from economy & technology import from the West.

It's just as the same as former Soviet did nothing to help ur Vietnam when Sino-Vietnam War, each nation only work for their national interests and foreign polity.There r not true friends between different nations.

Nah, but there's so many Chinese warriors keep howling how ungrateful Vietnamese was when Chinese help VN so much, but VN don't keep follow Chinese thought ...

 

[BoQ77]

Whether Deng is clever or wise, judged by the history.

While you said Deng cause the war, I also have a question, after Vietnam War, what did your leader do for your countries? build your country or make another war? cleverer or wiser than Deng?

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Do you mean Vietnam trigger this war ?
I said that's Deng's idea as his publicized "teach a lesson" propaganda.

Your neighbor just defeated a robber (with your help), it doesn't mean after that he could turn to fight you. He is just ready and fight another assassin that you hired to kill his people in his own house.
What you did after that? You entered your neighbor house and try to kill his innocent people too. All "you" word ... I means Deng Xiaoping

 

[cnleio]

Nah, but there's so many Chinese warriors keep howling how ungrateful Vietnamese was when Chinese help VN so much, but VN don't keep follow Chinese thought ...

It depned on ur interests, not China's. It's a fault for China to help VN, it won't again.

 

[NiceGuy]

It depned on ur interests, not China's. It's a fault for China to help VN, it won't again.

only VN communist party got 'help ' from corrupted communist China (bcz China received help from Soviet, so they must help other communist nations), VN people dont ask for 'help' from u, Okay. And dont forget we helped lots of Chinese fled from their country during Mongol-Manchus's invasion.