The Image of Pakistan Army Fast Getting Restored

[Zulfiqar]

However there is a historical bias towards men from fighting arms leading the Army. While it was fine on the part of NS to make his man the chief, there are certain considerations to be kept in mind when it comes to picking the Army chief.

I don't have a problem with that.I just wanted to clarify it to taimi khan that he should a little more research before he says that generals from a particular arm do not have an experience leading fighting formations(even though we might not like him for his role but putting all the officers from that particular arm under one category of "damn engineers" is wrong.Even sappers did not like him that much.)

Regards

 

[qsaark]

The problem in Pakistan is that as soon as a civilian government comes in, it wants to re-invent the wheel and start from scratch. So the gains are marginal (when they could be greater if consistency of policies is carried forward).

Please be little more specific. I am curious to know about the projects that were started in the time of military dictatorships for the benefits of the people and were scrapped by the later civilian regimes. My father has served in the Government for long 36 years, and last 10 years at key positions. From my conversations with him, I have learnt that big projects such as Dams, or Power Plants, or large mechanical complexes etc are made from the loans taken from international monitory institutions. These institutions don’t lend money for the projects that can be scrapped by the next government; hence such projects are impossible to be rolled back no matter how much they are disliked by the new governments.

The situation has been pretty bad at least in the 90s. It was bad to the point of Pakistan's security situation becoming perilous. Beyond that the definition of bad is essentially the mood of the public. When Zia took over from Bhutto, there was relief on the streets of Pakistan, when Musharraf did the same, there was mithai distributed all around. The fact that its not good in the long term is known to all, however the politicians have to take the blame for why this happens.

I was in Pakistan when the democratically elected government of NS was deposed. I do not remember that the situation was bad to the point where our security situation had become perilous. Yes, the situation was not good because of the Kargil misadventure and the GoP of that time was struggling to restore its credibility as a responsible regime. Yes economy was not doing well primarily because of the un-wise decision (in my view) of NS to go for the nuclear device testing. Other than that, I do not remember anything that would call for a forced regime change. As far as the mood of the public is concerned, if the people were not satisfied, there was always an option to dissolve the assemblies and let the people decide.

As far as Zia is concerned, much as been written about those days. Even the apposition parties (PNA) verified that they had reached to an agreement with Bhutto on dissolution of the newly elected assemblies and fresh elections under a form of government of national unity. Than what was need for the Army to take over? Zia came in the name of conducting fair and free elections in three months time, rather he stayed for 10 years and what we got in return of his stay?

The logic that whenever Army took over, masses distributed sweetmeats also does not hold much water. This phenomena is not associated only with the Army takeover, this we have always seen whenever a new government replaced the older one. There will always be a percentage of people that would welcome the change in hope of betterment. We have also seen that Iskander, Ayub, Yahya and Mushrraf all left in great disgrace and masses distributed sweetmeats on their departure. Zia escaped this for I guess he did some good things and Allah saved him from this humiliation.

As I have said before, for politicians, put this poor, deprived country ahead of yourself for once and you will see the people defend the government against any Army encroachment. That is the security...be good to the people of Pakistan and they will not allow any usurper (uniformed or otherwise) to take over.

No they never will because they do not belong to the same class. They are privileged people and our system does not favor middle class to contest elections. Requesting the politicians would not yield us anything. If anything can improve the situation over time, is the supremacy of law and order. That is how other democratic and civilized countries have controlled their politicians who are as much selfish and corrupt as are ours. Irony is, all the military dictators came in the name of good governance yet all of them without any exception did their best to weaken the judiciary. This is an interesting way of bringing good governance. In a country with weak judicial system, a culture of check and balance can never flourish, no matter what one says. In democratic and civilized societies, there are black sheep, and most of the time they manage to dodge the law, but once they are caught, than basically they are done with. And there are no exceptions, from bottom to the top.

 

[TaimiKhan]

Well dear asad, engineers are not all damned, rather i was trying to say a damn engineer but i think with the flow of typing 's' got involed. As for research, i had already done my work, but if u have any instance to the contrary do let me know. As for engineers, they have some of the most difficult jobs to do, i am very well aware with the role of assault engineers in the armed forces & their qualifications, but still that doesn't qualifies them to become head of a fighting army, as fighting is totally a different domain.
I have not tried to degrade the engineers, the army rolls forward due to them.
And heads of armies are from fighting formations, specifically armies who are huge and are on combat duties all the time.

 

[TaimiKhan]

And asad, plz get your facts right, swat operation commander is Maj.Ijaz Awan who is being replaced by Maj.Gen Asfaq Nadeem as Ijaz Awan 3 years tour of duty has finished.

 

[TaimiKhan]

Maj.Gen Sajjad is in other words a 2nd in command.

 

[batmannow]

i though it was an argument, only if you were able to counter it yourself.

Anywaz, here's the list of our Commanders. Please take some pain and check, how many Supporting Arm Senior Officers are Commanding Offensive or operational/fighting outfits, except a one or may be two:

Current Army Senior Command

1. General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani, Baloch — Chief of Army Staff. (Colonel-in-Chief of the Baloch Regiment) due to retire on November 28, 2010.
2. General Tariq Majid, Baloch — Chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff Committee. due to retire on October 8, 2010.
3. Lt Gen Raza Muhammad Khan, Arty[1] — DG Joint Staff, JS HQ, Chaklala. due to retire on September 23, 2009.
4. Lt Gen Muhammad Masood Aslam, Punjab — Commander XI Corps, Peshawar. (Colonel Commandant of the Punjab Regiment) due to retire on September 23, 2009.
5. Lt Gen Shafaat Ullah Shah, Baloch[2] — Chief of Logistics Staff (CLS), GHQ. (Colonel Commandant of the Baloch Regiment) due to retire on September 23, 2009.
6. Lt Gen Mohammad Hamid Khan, AC[3] — President National Defence University (NDU), Islamabad. (Colonel Commandant of the Armoured Corps) due to retire on September 23, 2009.
7. Lt Gen Ahsan Azhar Hayat, AC[1] — Inspector General Training and Evaluation (IGT&E), GHQ. due to retire on April 11, 2010.
8. Lt Gen Sajjad Akram, Baloch[2] — Deputy Chairman Earthquake Reconstruction & Rehabilitation Authority (ERRA). due to retire on April 11, 2010.
9. Lt Gen Nadeem Ahmad, Sind — Commander I Strike Corps, Mangla. due to retire on April 11, 2010.
10. Lt Gen Sikandar Afzal, AC[4] — Commander II Strike Corps, Multan. due to retire on April 11, 2010.
11. Lt Gen Ijaz Ahmed Bakhshi, Arty[2] — Commander IV Corps, Lahore. due to retire on April 11, 2010.
12. Lt Gen Khalid Shameem Wynne, Punjab — Commander XII Corps, Quetta. due to retire on March 8, 2011.
13. Lt Gen Muhammad Ashraf Saleem, AD[5] — Commander Army Air Defence Command. (Colonel Commandant of the Army Air Defence) due to retire on March 8, 2011.
14. Lt Gen Shahid Niaz, Engrs[5] — Engineer-in-Chief of Pakistan Army. (Colonel Commandant of the Corps of Engineers) due to retire on March 8, 2011.
15. Lt Gen Muhammad Yousaf, Arty[1] — Commander XXXI Corps, Bahawalpur. due to retire on March 8, 2011.
16. Lt Gen Syed Absar Hussain, Arty[5] — Commander Army Strategic Forces Command, Rawalpindi due to retire on March 8, 2011.
17. Lt Gen Javed Zia, Punjab[6] — Adjutant General (AG), GHQ. due to retire on September 21, 2011.
18. Lt Gen Shujaat Zamir Dar, Punjab[7] — Chairman Pakistan Ordnance Factories, Wah Cantt. due to retire on September 21, 2011.
19. Lt Gen Mohsin Kamal, Punjab[1] — Military Secretary (MS), GHQ. (Colonel Commandant of the Northern Light Infantry Regiment) due to retire on September 21, 2011.
20. Lt Gen Muhammad Asghar, Engrs[8] — Rector, NUST, Rawalpindi. due to retire on September 21, 2011.
21. Lt Gen Jamil Haider, Arty — Inspector General Arms, GHQ. due to retire on September 21, 2011.
22. Lt Gen Nadeem Taj, Punjab — Commander XXX Corps, Gujranwala. due to retire on September 21, 2011.
23. Lt Gen Muhammad Rehan Burney, AMC[2] — Surgeon General/DG Medical Services (Inter-Services), Medical Directorate, GHQ. (Colonel Commandant of the Army Medical Corps) due to retire on March 24, 2012.
24. Lt Gen Tahir Mahmood, Punjab[1] — Commander X Corps, Rawalpindi. due to retire on September 29, 2012.
25. Lt Gen Shahid Iqbal, Baloch[1] — Commander V Corps, Karachi. due to retire on September 29, 2012.
26. Lt Gen Tanvir Tahir, EME[1] — IG Communications and IT, GHQ. due to retire on September 29, 2012.
27. Lt Gen Zahid Hussain, Arty[6] — Quarter-Master General (QMG), GHQ. due to retire on September 29, 2012.
28. Lt Gen Ahmad Shuja Pasha, FF[1] — DG Inter-Services Intelligence (DG ISI), ISI HQ, Islamabad. due to retire on September 29, 2012.
29. Lt Gen Muhammad Mustafa Khan, AC[1] — Chief of General Staff (CGS), GHQ. due to retire on September 29, 2012.
30. Lt Gen Ayyaz Saleem Rana, AC[1] — Chairman Heavy Industries Taxila. due to retire on September 29, 2012.
31. Lt Gen Naeem Khalid Lodhi, Engrs[9] — Chief Staff Officer to COAS. due to retire on February 17, 2013.
32. Maj Gen Tassawar Hussain, AMC — Principal Army Medical College, Rawalpindi.
33. Maj Gen Mir Haider Ali Khan, FF (superseded) — Additional Secretary-I (Army), Ministry of Defence.
34. Maj Gen Muhammad Tariq Masood, Baloch[6] (superseded) — Member Logistics Reform Committee, Lahore Corps.
35. Maj Gen Shafique Ahmed Kayani, AMC — Deputy Surgeon General/DG Medical Services (Inter-Services), Medical Directorate, GHQ.
36. Maj Gen Asif Akhtar, Baloch[6] (superseded) — DG National Guard (NG).
37. Maj Gen Syed Guftar Shah, EME[10] (superseded) — DG Defence Science and Technology Organisation (DESTO), DESTO HQ, Rawalpindi.
38. Maj Gen Syed Khalid Amir Jaffery, Arty (superseded) — DG Anti-Narcotics Force (ANF), Ministry of Interior.
39. Maj Gen Nusrat Naeem, Arty (superseded) — .
40. Maj Gen Asif Ali, Engrs (superseded) — Surveyor General, Survey of Pakistan.
41. Maj Gen Shaukat Sultan, Sind (superseded) — DG Foreign Military Cooperation (FMC), JS HQ.
42. Maj Gen Nasim ul Majid, AMC — DG Surgery, Medical Directorate, GHQ
43. Maj Gen Badshah Khan, AMC — DG Medicine, Medical Directorate, GHQ
44. Maj Gen Muhammad Akram Sahi, Punjab[6] (superseded) — Commander Logistics Area, Gujranwala.
45. Maj Gen Muhammad Tahir Saeed, ASC (superseded) — Vice Chief of Logistics Staff (VCLS), GHQ.
46. Maj Gen Masood Hasan, Arty (superseded) — DG Personnel Services and Provost Marshal, GHQ.
47. Maj Gen Qasim Qureshi, Punjab — DG Operations and Plans, JS HQ.
48. Maj Gen Bilal Omer Khan, AC — DG Armoured Corps, GHQ.
49. Maj Gen Imtiaz Ahmed, Engrs — DG National Logistics Corporation (NLC).
50. Maj Gen Muhammad Javed Khan, AMC — DG Medical Services (Navy), Medical Directorate, GHQ.
51. Maj Gen Abdul Malik, AMC — Commandant, Armed Forces Post-Graduate Medical Institute (AFPGMI), Rawalpindi.
52. Maj Gen Jamshed Riaz, EME — DG Electrical and Mechanical Engineering, GHQ. (Colonel Commandant of the Corps of Electrical and Mechanical Engineering)
53. Maj Gen Waqar Ahmed Kingravi, Avn — DG Defence Purchase (DGDP), Ministry of Defence Production. (Colonel Commandant of the Army Aviation Corps)
54. Maj Gen Syed Taqi Naseer Rizvi, Avn — DG Army Aviation, GHQ.
55. Maj Gen Mian Nadeem Ijaz Ahmad, AC[11] — GOC 26th Mechanised Division, Bahawalpur.
56. Maj Gen Zawar Hussain Shah, Ord — DG Ordnance Services, GHQ.
57. Maj Gen Iftikhar Ahmed Choudhry, Arty[3] — DG Welfare and Rehabilitation, GHQ.
58. Maj Gen Syed Mohammad Owais, AD — DG Army Air Defence, GHQ.
59. Maj Gen Mukhtar Ahmed, AK[12] — DG Doctrine and Evaluation, GHQ. (Colonel Commandant of the Azad Kashmir Regiment)
60. Maj Gen Zahid Parvez, AC — DG Budget, GHQ.
61. Maj Gen Khalid Nawaz Khan, Baloch — Commandant, Command and Staff College, Quetta.
62. Maj Gen Sardar Mahmood Ali Khan, Punjab — DG Military Training (DGMT), GHQ.
63. Maj Gen Muhammad Naeem Khan, AMC — Adviser in Medicine/Professor Army Medical College, Rawalpindi.
64. Maj Gen Shahida Badsha, AMC — Adviser in Pediatrics/Professor Army Medical College, Rawalpindi.
65. Maj Gen Najeeb Tariq, EME — DG Inspectorate of Technical Development (ITD), GHQ.
66. Maj Gen Muhammad Ali Khan, ASC — DG Remount, Veterinary and Farms Corps (RVFC), GHQ.
67. Maj Gen Muhammad Farooq, Punjab[10] — DG Defence Export Promotion Organization (DEPO), Ministry of Defence Production.
68. Maj Gen Muhammad Alam Khattak, FF — Deputy Chief of General Staff (DCGS), GHQ.
69. Maj Gen Ahmed Bilal, Sigs[13] — DG (Security) Strategic Planning Division (SPD). (Colonel Commandant of the Corps of Signals)
70. Maj Gen Niaz Muhammad Khan Khattak, AK[14] — Deputy DG ISI (Analysis and Foreign Relations wing).
71. Maj Gen Javed Iqbal, Engrs — DG Defence Complex Islamabad (DCI) Project.
72. Maj Gen Taufiq Rafiq, Engrs — DG Frontier Works Organisation (FWO).
73. Maj Gen Shafqaat Ahmed, Punjab — GOC 10th Infantry Division, Lahore.
74. Maj Gen Tahir Ali, AD — GOC Air Defence, Sargodha.
75. Maj Gen Anwar Saeed Khan, ASC — Managing Director, Pakistan Agricultural Storage and Service Corp. (PASSCO), Ministry of Food and Agriculture.
76. Maj Gen Azhar Rashid, AMC — .
77. Maj Gen Khushnood Javaid Khan, AMC — DG Medical Services (Air Force), Medical Directorate, GHQ.
78. Maj Gen Muhammad Ovais Mustafa, EME — DG Military Vehicles, Research and Development Establishment (MVRDE), Wah Cantt.
79. Maj Gen Raja Muhammad Arif Nazir, Avn — DG Defence Security Guards (DSG), GHQ.
80. Maj Gen Zahid Mubashir Sheikh, Arty — Deputy Quarter-Master General (DQMG), GHQ.
81. Maj Gen Nasir Mahmood, Avn — .
82. Maj Gen Asif Yasin Malik, Punjab — DG Joint Intelligence and Information Operations, JS HQ.
83. Maj Gen Muhammad Haroon Aslam, AK — GOC Special Service Group, Cherat.
84. Maj Gen Waheed Arshad, AC — Vice Chief of General Staff (VCGS), GHQ.
85. Maj Gen Rashad Mahmood, Baloch — Deputy DG ISI, ISI HQ, Islamabad.
86. Maj Gen Muhammad Yaqub Khan, AK — DG Rangers (Punjab), Lahore.
87. Maj Gen Hamid Mahmud, Sigs — DG SCO RWP.
88. Maj Gen Syed Ithar Hussain Shah, Arty[11] — GOC 2nd Artillery Division, Gujranwala.
89. Maj Gen Farooq Ahmed Khan, AMC — Adviser in Pathology/Dean and Professor Army Medical College, Rawalpindi.
90. Maj Gen Chaudhry Ahmad Khan, AMC — Adviser in Surgery/Professor Army Medical College, Rawalpindi.
91. Maj Gen Ulfat Hussain, ASC[15] — DG Supply and Transport, GHQ.
92. Maj Gen Syed Shakeel Hussain, Baloch — Vice Military Secretary (VMS), GHQ.
93. Maj Gen Gul Muhammad, FF[3] — DG Personnel and Administration, GHQ.
94. Maj Gen Liaquat Ali, Arty[16] — DG Rangers (Sindh), Karachi.
95. Maj Gen Ghulam Mustafa Kausar, AK — Deputy DG ISI, ISI HQ, Islamabad.
96. Maj Gen Noor Hussain, Baloch[6] — DG Quartering and Lands, GHQ.
97. Maj Gen Raheel Sharif, FF — Commandant, Pakistan Military Academy, Kakul.
98. Maj Gen Tariq Mahmood, Engrs — Deputy DG ISI, ISI HQ, Islamabad.
99. Maj Gen Tahir Mahmood Malik, Punjab — .
100. Maj Gen Athar Abbas, AC — DG Inter-Services Public Relations (DG ISPR), JS HQ.
101. Maj Gen Wajahat Ali Muftee, Arty — DG Military Lands and Cantonments (ML&C), Ministry of Defence.
102. Maj Gen Waqar Ahmed, AMC —
103. Maj Gen Sefvan Majed Janjua, AMC — Vice Principal Army Medical College, Rawalpindi.
104. Maj Gen Sohail Shafkat, ASC — .
105. Maj Gen Azhar Ali Shah, Punjab[17] — DG Institute of Strategic Studies, Research and Analysis (ISSRA) at NDU Islamabad.
106. Maj Gen Tariq Khan, AC — IG Frontier Corps (IGFC N.W.F.P), Peshawar.
107. Maj Gen Munawar Ahmad Solehria, Engrs[18] — Deputy Engineer-in-Chief, GHQ.
108. Maj Gen Agha Muhammad Umer Farooq, Baloch — Commandant, School of Infantry and Tactics, Quetta.
109. Maj Gen Mohammad Zahirul Islam, Punjab[18][14] — Deputy DG ISI (Internal wing - dealing with Counter-intelligence and political issues inside Pakistan), ISI HQ, Islamabad.
110. Maj Gen Rashad Javeed, Arty — .
111. Maj Gen Salim Nawaz, Baloch — IG Frontier Corps (IGFC Balochistan), Quetta.
112. Maj Gen Mumtaz Ahmad Bajwa, Baloch[18][14] — Deputy DG ISI (External wing - handling relations with Mujahideen groups inside Kashmir and other similar groups), ISI HQ, Islamabad.
113. Maj Gen Muhammad Ashraf Tabbassam, Arty — GOC 35th Infantry Division, Bahawalpur.
114. Maj Gen Muhammad Farooq Iqbal, Ord — Commander Logistics Area, Rawalpindi.
115. Maj Gen Shahid Maqbool, Sigs — Commandant, Military College of Signals, Rawalpindi.
116. Maj Gen Jehangir Anwar Khan, AMC — DG Medical Services (Azad Kashmir), Medical Directorate, GHQ.
117. Maj Gen Jahangir Khan, Infantry — DG Infantry, GHQ.
118. Maj Gen Abdul Aziz Tariq, Infantry — Commander, Logistics Area Karachi.
119. Maj Gen Abdul Qadir Shahid, AD — GOC 4th Air Defence Division, Karachi.
120. Maj Gen Khalid Rabbani, Infantry — GOC 9th Infantry Division, Kohat. (Division operating in Kohat District and its vicinity)
121. Maj Gen Ijaz Awan, Infantry[19] — GOC 37th Infantry Division, Gujranwala. (one of the two divisions operating in Swat District and its vicinity since December 2008)[20]
122. Maj Gen Muhammad Mansha — GOC 25th Mechanised Division, Malir.
123. Maj Gen Abid Pervaiz, AC — .
124. Maj Gen Tahir Habib Siddiqui, AC[3] — GOC 6th Armoured Division, Kharian.
125. Maj Gen Tariq Rashid Khan, Arty — GOC 41st Infantry Division, Quetta.
126. Maj Gen Khadim Hussain, Arty[18] — GOC 23rd Infantry Division, Jhelum.
127. Maj Gen Kaleem Saber Taseer, Arty — Commandant, School of Artillery, Nowshera.
128. Maj Gen Ziauddin Najam, Arty[3] — GOC, Army Strategic Forces Command.
129. Maj Gen Akhtar Iqbal, Arty — GOC 16th Infantry Division, Pano Akil.
130. Maj Gen Sajjad Ghani, Engrs — GOC 19th Infantry Division, Mangla. (one of the two divisions operating in Swat District and its vicinity since April 2009)
131. Maj Gen Ausaf Ali, Engrs — .
132. Maj Gen Mohammad Ahsan Mahmood, Engrs[21] — GOC 15th Infantry Division, Sialkot.
133. Maj Gen Muzammil Hussain, Baloch — Commander Force Command Northern Areas, Gilgit.
134. Maj Gen Tahir Ashraf Khan, Infantry — GOC 33rd Infantry Division, Quetta.
135. Maj Gen Muhammad Asif, Infantry[22] — DG Military Intelligence (DGMI), GHQ.
136. Maj Gen Muhammad Khalid, Infantry — .
137. Maj Gen Ghulam Dastgir, Infantry[6] — DG Human Resource Development (HRD), GHQ.
138. Maj Gen Javed Iqbal, Infantry[23] — DG Military Operations (DGMO), GHQ.
139. Maj Gen Shahid Ahmed Hashmat, Infantry — GOC 18th Infantry Division, Hyderabad.
140. Maj Gen Nasser Khan Janjua, Infantry[19] — GOC 17th Infantry Division, Kharian. (Division operated in Swat District from November 2007 to December 2008, reverted back to peace-time location since)[20]
141. Maj Gen Shahid Hamid Khan, AC — GOC 1st Armoured Division, Multan.
142. Maj Gen Asif Nawaz Janjua, AC — .
143. Maj Gen Tariq Nadeem Gilani, Arty[17] — Commandant, Armed Forces War College (AFWC) at NDU Islamabad.
144. Maj Gen Mohammad Ijaz Chaudhry, Arty[18] — GOC 14th Infantry Division, Okara. (Division operating in the southern NWFP including the Waziristan region)
145. Maj Gen Javaid Iqbal Nasar, Arty — .
146. Maj Gen Zahir Shah, Engrs[24] — Commandant, Military College of Engineering, Risalpur.
147. Maj Gen Junaid Rehmat, Engrs — DG Works and Chief Engineer (W&CE), GHQ.
148. Maj Gen Mohammad Azeem Asif, Engrs[24] — DG Engineers, GHQ.
149. Maj Gen Mohammad Rafiq Sabir, Engrs[18] — DG Housing, GHQ.
150. Maj Gen Muhammad Khalid Rao, Sigs[18] — DG(technical) ISI GHQ Rawalpindi.
151. Maj Gen Mohammad Saeed Aleem, Infantry — GOC 8th Infantry Division, Sialkot.
152. Maj Gen Wasim Sadiq, Infantry — .
153. Maj Gen Naweed Zaman, Infantry — GOC 7th Infantry Division, Peshawar. (Division operating in Peshawar region and its vicinity)
154. Maj Gen Muhammad Nawaz, Infantry[18] — GOC 40th Infantry Division, Okara.
155. Maj Gen Raza Muhammad, Infantry — GOC 11th Infantry Division, Lahore.
156. Maj Gen Khawar Hanif, Infantry — .
157. Maj Gen Maqsood Ahmad, Infantry[18] — GOC 12th Infantry Division, Murree. (deployed near LoC)
158. Maj Gen Tanveer Ullah Khan, Avn[18] — GOC Army Aviation Command, Rawalpindi.
159. Maj Gen Niaz Kausar Sheikh, ASC[24] — DG Pay, Pension and Accounts, GHQ.
160. Maj Gen Mohammad Shahid, EME[18] — Commandant, College of EME, Rawalpindi.
161. Maj Gen Obaid Bin Zakria, EME — DG C4I, GHQ.
162. Maj Gen Zia Ullah Khan, AMC — Commandant, Combined Military Hospital (CMH), Rawalpindi.
163. Maj Gen Azhar Mahmud, AMC[25] — Commandant/Executive Director, Armed Forces Institute of Cardiology (AFIC)/National Institute of Heart Diseases (NIHD), Rawalpindi.
164. Maj Gen Muhammad Hamid Akram, AMC — Adviser in Radiology/Professor Army Medical College, Rawalpindi.
165. Maj Gen Asif Ali Khan, AMC — Head of Cardiac Surgery, AFIC/NIHD Rawalpindi.
166. Maj Gen Suhaib Ahmad, AMC — Commandant, Armed Forces Institute of Pathology (AFIP), Rawalpindi.
167. Maj Gen Syed Wajid Hussain, AC — .
168. Maj Gen Changez Dil Khan, AC — .
169. Maj Gen Isfandyar Ali Pataudi, AC — .
170. Maj Gen Zubair Mahmood Hayat, Arty — .PS(C)
171. Maj Gen Noel Israel Khokhar, Arty — .
172. Maj Gen Shaukat Iqbal, Arty — .
173. Maj Gen Mazhar Jamil, Arty — .
174. Maj Gen Tahir Mahmood, AD — .
175. Maj Gen Zamir Ul Hassan Shah, AD — .
176. Maj Gen Najib Ullah Khan, Engrs — .
177. Maj Gen Khalid Asghar, Engrs — .
178. Maj Gen Waqar Ahmed, Sigs , Signal Officer In Chief(SO-in-C) now named as DG SIGS,GHQ RWP
179. Maj Gen Farrukh Bashir, Infantry — .
180. Maj Gen Ashfaq Nadim Ahmed, Infantry — .
181. Maj Gen Javed Iqbal Ramday, Infantry — .
182. Maj Gen Qamar Javed Bajwa, Infantry — .
183. Maj Gen M Saad Khattak, Infantry — .
184. Maj Gen Sajjad Ali Khan, Infantry — .




185. Maj Gen Khalid Mahmood, Infantry — .
186. Maj Gen Mohammad Tahir, Avn — .
187. Maj Gen Rehan Bashir, EME — .
188. Maj Gen Waqar Ahmed Khan, AMC — .
189. Maj Gen Zafarul Islam, AMC — .
190. Maj Gen Waqas Ahmed, AMC — .

dear sir,
plz dont post, vital info like this!
just to justify your good , points , because this info can , get into wrong hands!
thanks

 

[TaimiKhan]

i think this info is available publicly, if i am right this list is available on Wikipedia in the PA section.

 

[Zulfiqar]

^^^ the above is from an ISPR press release and is available in wikipedia.

And asad, plz get your facts right, swat operation commander is Maj.Ijaz Awan who is being replaced by Maj.Gen Asfaq Nadeem as Ijaz Awan 3 years tour of duty has finished.

When i used the words GOC,i did not mean that he is in charge of the whole operation.I meant that as a short word for Division Commander.I was trying to convey that officers from engrs do become div commanders(it has happened many times) and they can head fighting formations up to a corp as we have seen previously( Gen Butt was one,you may say that he was Nawaz sharif's friend but still it is not that easy to become a corp commander)

About the role as COAS, i do not have a problem with fighting formations becoming COAS but i wanted to convey that officers from engineers have headed formation(by formation i mean divisions and corps).

 

[batmannow]

i think this info is available publicly, if i am right this list is available on Wikipedia in the PA section.

dear sir,
the info, availible on Wikipedia has never been , called the official one!
but , it will become official , if a member(militryexpert) of the PDF, post it !
we have to , make some limits, to safe gurd our national intersts?

 

[TaimiKhan]

i didnt said its official, these kind of informational lists keeping popping up on net, mostly at such sites, as wikipedia is an open sourced info website, so definitely someone who knew the info posted it either by compiling himself or by copying itself. And as for secrecy of such info, its not possible reason being wherever divisional level force is deployed, the divisional and corps commander names are known well. Looking at this list, it has even fighting arms mentioned, dates and retirement dates, which means this list must have been prepared by someone having first hand knowledge, which must be the army itself.

 

[Xeric]

dear sir,
plz dont post, vital info like this!
just to justify your good , points , because this info can , get into wrong hands!
thanks

Batty sir, it took it from Wiki, so relax.

BTW, i never did say that all those mentioned in the list are 'actually' correct! No one ever testified on the bonafide-ness of the list, so let it get into wrong hands.

Thnx for reminding though!

 

[sweetboy]

We dont have politicians, our contry has been & is being run by industrialists,wadairas,chaudrys,thugs & rich people who damn care about pakistan rather their own pocket. Our politicians dont have the decency to resign if govt fails to deliver or if something goes wrong. They just want to cling to the seat of power. When govts fails, then army has to come or is brought as a last resort, and when army comes there is no single person, a right person who can run the show and deliever. So army stays, they make good decisions, they make bad ones. Thats wht Mush did too, some good things and some bad things which he shouldnt have done. In last 60 years, italy has more then 50+ govts, reason being the politicians own their mistake and resign if they dont deliever, but overs when in govt are bent to destroy whoever opposes them.

well done i love your way to discribe the whole metter clearly.
and according to my point of veiw all politicians only know how to fill thier pockets not to think about poeples.

 

[Xeric]

i didnt said its official, these kind of informational lists keeping popping up on net, mostly at such sites, as wikipedia is an open sourced info website, so definitely someone who knew the info posted it either by compiling himself or by copying itself. And as for secrecy of such info, its not possible reason being wherever divisional level force is deployed, the divisional and corps commander names are known well. Looking at this list, it has even fighting arms mentioned, dates and retirement dates, which means this list must have been prepared by someone having first hand knowledge, which must be the army itself.

The attributions say that it has been collected from ISPR Press releases, i think they have gathered it from bits and pieces said over some period of time.