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[Soldier of Hind]

My Pakistani Friends,

We all know how you all hate India & Hindus in particular. But you all need to ask yourselves, why all this hate? There are some serious misconceptions in your country & among you Pakistanis. Now, I know this thread might be just thrown in the pits, but that'd indicate the lack of guts on your side to do a little introspection. Here we go..

The Great Hindu-Muslim Divide.

Do you guys think you're the direct descendents of the Arabs? Do you think that your ancestors came from Mecca? Wrong. You all have Hindu blood in your veins. Your ancestors were hindu, before they were forecefully converted to Islam by the marauding Islamic armies from the Arabia. Takshila, the hub of Hindu education is in current Pakistan, Mohenjodaro, Harappa, all indicate that what is now Pakistan was once 100% Hindu land, before the Islamic conquest took place.

I'm not making things up, go to neutral source. Study the history of United India. The Mauryan Empire, the Cholas, Kanishka, the Gupta empire, the arrival of the Mughals. Before calling abusing the Hindu religion, do a little research on where your ancestors came from. Get a neutral book, and study the Islamic invasion, what they did, how they did it & where they came from.

The religion of Islam was not founded in United India, the United India was 100% Hindu, so how do you explain the current Islamic population of over 40 Crore?!! Forceful conversions.

Now, before you abuse me right, left & centre, please do a little research on what I've said. You're all Hindus, who lost their religion a thousand years ago, it's time you embraced it back.

 

[ahmeddsid]

isnt it time for u to attend RSS Shaka????

First Of all Let me clear it, Hindus are not bad people, like all Religions they got Bad Apples. Hindus are nice people. But some morons try to destroy its name just like Muslim Terrorists do.

Secondly, I am from a Brahmin family in south india, we Converted to Islam by Choice and it was Not Forced. Yes there may have been forced Conversions, I dont deny it, But not all the 40 crore people forcefully made to accept Islam.

Before you ask others to Embrace Hinduism, Learn what Hinduism really is, and Dont go asking RSS or VHP cause they dont know the difference from a dick to a cunt!

 

[Soldier of Hind]

My friend,

I was talking about the advent of Islam in India. And it does'nt change the fact that you, me, every single one of us in South East Asia has hindu blood in his veins. I don't know why you converted, I have no interest, since you are an Indian & religion is secondary to that. But this is something that needs to be told to our Pakistani friends, that their hatred for Hindu India is unfounded. They were hindus themselves, their ancestors, and the current generation, whatever they might think, cannot change the fact that what runs through their veins is pure Hindu blood.

 

[UnitedPak]

As Pakistanis, we are well aware of our history, from the Indus Valley to modern day Pakistan. And I am sure there were religions in Pakistan before Hinduism as well, so you cant call it Hindu land, even Harappa and Mohenjo Daro were not Hindu as Hinduism didnt exist back them. What ever religion they were, we accept it as Pakistani history and our origins. Nobody thinks they are Arabs or from Arabia, but we are very clear on our Muslim identity, and that wont change just because you have an issue with Islam being Arab influenced.

p.s Taxila was during Buddhist era in Pakistan.

 

[ahmeddsid]

My friend,

I was talking about the advent of Islam in India. And it does'nt change the fact that you, me, every single one of us in South East Asia has hindu blood in his veins. I don't know why you converted, I have no interest, since you are an Indian & religion is secondary to that. But this is something that needs to be told to our Pakistani friends, that their hatred for Hindu India is unfounded. They were hindus themselves, their ancestors, and the current generation, whatever they might think, cannot change the fact that what runs through their veins is pure Hindu blood.

I too accept it, but when someone tries to keep their eyes shut and say its dark, there is nothing you can do.

Not all Pakistanis hate Hindus, only some Netizens hate, but in real life they are chum with Hindu guys.

 

[Soldier of Hind]

As Pakistanis, we are well aware of our history, from the Indus Valley to modern day Pakistan. And I am sure there were religions in Pakistan before Hinduism as well, so you cant call it Hindu land, even Harappa and Mohenjo Daro were not Hindu as Hinduism didnt exist back them. What ever religion they were, we accept it as Pakistani history and our origins. Nobody thinks they are Arabs or from Arabia, but we are very clear on our Muslim identity, and that wont change just because you have an issue with Islam being Arab influenced.

p.s Taxila was during Buddhist era in Pakistan.

Mohenjodaro & Harappa followed Hinduism, there has always been only religion in the sub continent before Islam & Christanity came, and that is Hinduism. The Hindu religion, infact, has its roots in Harappa & Mohenjodaro. The thing I'm trying to put through here is that why make it a Hindu-Muslim issue (like your self proclaimed security expert Zaid Hamid) when the whole subcontinent has hindu blood in their veins.

And Taxila was a vedic university, not Buddhist, though it had immense Buddhist influence in later years.

 

[x_man]

My Pakistani Friends,

We all know how you all hate India & Hindus in particular. But you all need to ask yourselves, why all this hate? There are some serious misconceptions in your country & among you Pakistanis.

All this could be said about Indians too…..I have spent 4 years in India too and very clear about the pic that emerges from your side…..Been there, done that, seen all…..So don’t tell me that it only us that don’t like Indians: Probably you forgot to mention the emotions on your side….The feeling is mutual..

Sorry I didn’t read your full post, because after reading your opening paragraph I exactly knew the gibberish that was going to follow….

Now, I know this thread might be just thrown in the pits,

I hope so….

….but that'd indicate the lack of guts on your side to do a little introspection.

Lack of guts on our part!!!???? ….Is this the best you could come up with or shall I expect more from you….

 

[afriend]

All this could be said about Indians too…..I have spent 4 years in India too and very clear about the pic that emerges from your side…..Been there, done that, seen all…..So don’t tell me that it only us that don’t like Indians: Probably you forgot to mention the emotions on your side….The feeling is mutual..

Sorry I didn’t read your full post, because after reading your opening paragraph I exactly knew the gibberish that was going to follow….



I hope so….



Lack of guts on our part!!!???? ….Is this the best you could come up with or shall I expect more from you….

Well criticse..!!!! it appreciate it..!!! but read it..!!! Else it just plain prejudice speaking..!!!!

 

[UnitedPak]

Mohenjodaro & Harappa followed Hinduism, there has always been only religion in the sub continent before Islam & Christanity came, and that is Hinduism. The Hindu religion, infact, has its roots in Harappa & Mohenjodaro. The thing I'm trying to put through here is that why make it a Hindu-Muslim issue (like your self proclaimed security expert Zaid Hamid) when the whole subcontinent has hindu blood in their veins.

And Taxila was a vedic university, not Buddhist, though it had immense Buddhist influence in later years.

There is no such thing as 'Hindu blood'. And no respected scholar claims Indus Valley followed Hinduism, because it in fact did not.
You are promoting typical Hindutva views on Hinduism being a trillion years old etc etc.

I am not even denying that some Pakistanis used to follow Hinduism, but we have been Muslims for 1000+ years and its time to let go these silly Hindu attempts at reintroducing Hinduism in Pakistan.

just for the record, there were plenty of religions in Pakistan before Hinduism.

 

[superbikez]

My Pakistani Friends,

We all know how you all hate India & Hindus in particular. But you all need to ask yourselves, why all this hate? There are some serious misconceptions in your country & among you Pakistanis. Now, I know this thread might be just thrown in the pits, but that'd indicate the lack of guts on your side to do a little introspection. Here we go..

The Great Hindu-Muslim Divide.

Do you guys think you're the direct descendents of the Arabs? Do you think that your ancestors came from Mecca? Wrong. You all have Hindu blood in your veins. Your ancestors were hindu, before they were forecefully converted to Islam by the marauding Islamic armies from the Arabia. Takshila, the hub of Hindu education is in current Pakistan, Mohenjodaro, Harappa, all indicate that what is now Pakistan was once 100% Hindu land, before the Islamic conquest took place.

I'm not making things up, go to neutral source. Study the history of United India. The Mauryan Empire, the Cholas, Kanishka, the Gupta empire, the arrival of the Mughals. Before calling abusing the Hindu religion, do a little research on where your ancestors came from. Get a neutral book, and study the Islamic invasion, what they did, how they did it & where they came from.

The religion of Islam was not founded in United India, the United India was 100% Hindu, so how do you explain the current Islamic population of over 40 Crore?!! Forceful conversions.

Now, before you abuse me right, left & centre, please do a little research on what I've said. You're all Hindus, who lost their religion a thousand years ago, it's time you embraced it back.

1st SAME QUESTION TO YOU! (and 1 thing always remember till ur death CHANGE UR STATEMENT "Forceful conversions").

 

[H2O3C4Nitrogen]

Every body is son of Adam ...

 

[Neo]

There is no such thing as 'Hindu blood'. And no respected scholar claims Indus Valley followed Hinduism, because it in fact did not.

Indeed, Pakistan happens to have witnessed one of world oldest civilisations, much older than than hinduism. There's no hindu such thing as hindu blood or hindu DNA.
I'm a pathan and share closer ethnic links with Persia and Afghanistan rather than India. As a matter of fact hinduism never flourished in western Pakistan.

You are promoting typical Hindutva views on Hinduism being a trillion years old etc etc.

Indeed...thats the soul purpose of this thread.

I am not even denying that some Pakistanis used to follow Hinduism, but we have been Muslims for 1000+ years and its time to let go these silly Hindu attempts at reintroducing Hinduism in Pakistan.

Whatever the history, we're proud Pakistani's now and and thats all that counts.

 

[Neo]

First Of all Let me clear it, Hindus are not bad people, like all Religions they got Bad Apples. Hindus are nice people. But some morons try to destroy its name just like Muslim Terrorists do.

Well said!

Secondly, I am from a Brahmin family in south india, we Converted to Islam by Choice and it was Not Forced. Yes there may have been forced Conversions, I dont deny it, But not all the 40 crore people forcefully made to accept Islam.

He, like many other hindus, doesn't understand the meaning of Islam nor the concept of true submission to a Single God.

 

[ahmeddsid]

This guy just tried to stir up hate with his first post, then I guess he tried to become Civil. But I feel you have just ruined it!

 

[slugger]

@Soldier of Hind
d00d, your ideas are totally warped and toxic

Forceful religious conversion is a fact - for all religions & it is a crime

But to say such a thing as you did, casts you in the same mould as that of religious zealots who exist in minority but hog the majority of the limelight, thus magnifying the true extent of the problem many times over

Religious conversion in contemporary India is a matter of personal choice and there is no restriction from adopting any religon as one may deem suitable

Once converted the person is a follower and believer of that religion. period