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The greatest threat to America’s national security is hiding in plain sight
  • JUN. 6, 2015, 9:38 AM

  • ReutersChinese People's Liberation Army (PLA) Navy fires a salute during a commemoration ceremony for Chinese soldiers killed during the First Sino-Japanese War, near Liugong island in Weihai, Shandong province, August 27, 2014.



  • On Monday, Lindsey Graham announced his presidential candidacy in a speech devoted mostly to foreign policy.

    He mentioned variations of the word “Islam” six times. He said “the nuclear ambitions of the radical Islamists who control Iran” constitute the “biggest threat” to the United States. He twice emphasized his devotion to Israel. And once, about halfway through his remarks, he mentioned China.

    In American politics today, especially in the GOP, Graham’s priorities are typical. Two years ago, during Secretary of Defense nominee Chuck Hagel’s contentious seven-and-a-half-hour grilling by the Armed Services Committee, senators mentioned Israel 178 times and Iran 171 times. The number of references to China? Five.

    The emphasis is odd because it’s likely that the “biggest threat” to America’s national security is neither Iran nor “radical Islam” writ large. It is China.

    The Islamic extremists in ISIS and other violent jihadist groups kill between 10 and 20 Americans a year. That number could spike dramatically, of course, as it did on 9/11. But for many years now, the trend has been toward lone-wolf-style attacks where very small numbers of Americans die.

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    For its part, Iran is a midsize power with a noxious regime. It aspires to dominate the Middle East, but it is likely to fail in that endeavor. It’s likely to fail in part because the other powerful countries in the region (Israel, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Turkey), backed by the United States, want it to fail. And it’s likely to fail because, as a Shiite power in a mostly Sunni region inflamed by Sunni-Shiite conflict, Iranian domination doesn’t have much appeal.

    Of course, if Iran develops a nuclear weapon, or even a nuclear-weapons capacity, its power will grow. But it will still face neighbors—Israel, Pakistan, India—with larger nuclear arsenals of their own. And there is no reason to believe that Tehran will commit regime suicide by using a nuclear weapon against Israel or anyone else, and thus invite a massive nuclear response, given that it has proved emphatically non-suicidal during its 36 years in power.

    China, by contrast, is not a midsize power. It’s a superpower. At current prices, its GDP is 28 times larger than Iran’s. Its military budget is roughly 13 times larger. Its willingness to invest vast sums in the economic development of other nations gives it tremendous soft power. And it is claiming much of the South China Sea as its own, thus asserting dominion over a territory with vast oil and gas reserves through which one-third of the world’s shipping travels.

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    From 1941 to 1989, the United States risked war to prevent great powers from dominating the world’s economic and industrial heartlands, and thus gaining veto power over America’s ability to conduct international commerce. That’s what China is seeking today.

    When historians look back at this era in American history, they’ll find the lack of political debate about China astounding.

    So why aren’t Lindsey Graham and his GOP presidential competitors talking more about China? (To be fair, Hillary Clinton isn’t talking much about China either. But her campaign thus far has been much less weighted toward foreign policy in general.)

    Three reasons come to mind.

    The first is that the Chinese threat isn’t visually spectacular. What made ISIS a household name in the United States last year, even more than the group’s territorial gains, were its gruesome murders, especially of Westerners. The horrific images of those killings, broadcast endlessly on television, bred a primal fear that Washington politicians were quick to exploit. Those politicians pressured the Obama administration to begin its bombing campaign in Iraq and Syria, which gave the story even more juice because the United States was now at war.

    Via the catchall of “radical Islam,” American politicians have transferred some of the anxiety sparked by ISIS to Iran: Today they have butcher’s knives; tomorrow, nukes! By contrast, China’s incremental moves to build islands in the South China Sea or even ram the occasional Filipino fishing boat produce far less drama.

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    ReutersChinese dredging vessels are purportedly seen in the waters around Fiery Cross Reef in the disputed Spratly Islands in the South China Sea in this still image from video taken by a P-8A Poseidon surveillance aircraft provided by the United States Navy May 21, 2015.

    No matter how serious a challenge they pose to America’s role in the Pacific, they don’t appear to threaten American lives. And they won’t—until a confrontation between the Chinese and American militaries, in disputed ocean or airspace, raises the prospect of war. Until that happens, China’s challenge will remain on Page A17 of the newspaper.

    The second reason presidential candidates devote so much more attention to “radical Islam” than to China is money. There’s no conspiracy here. Sheldon Adelson, who along with the Koch brothers is the most influential donor in today’s GOP, proudly acknowledges that, for him, Israel’s “security”—and thus, Iran’s nuclear program—is issue number one. And there are mini-Adelsons backing all the leading Republican candidates who talk tough on Iran. China hawks, by contrast, are far harder to find in the GOP donor class.

    In fact, given the stake many financial and corporate types have in U.S.-Chinese economic ties, it’s not clear that GOP donors even want GOP presidential candidates to take a hard line against Beijing.

    The third reason is ideological. For the American right, it’s very important that U.S. adversaries be “evil.” From Whittaker Chambers, William F. Buckley, and Barry Goldwater in the first decades of the Cold War to Jerry Falwell, Jesse Helms, and Ronald Reagan in the 1970s and 1980s, conservatives insisted that the Soviet Union was both a geopolitical threat and a demonic force.

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    Ronald Reagan and other right-wingers like to portray their foes as being evil, but with China, the situation is much more nuanced.

    On the right, the U.S.S.R. was often portrayed as not merely an ideological foe but a quasi-theological one. It’s no coincidence that Reagan called the Soviet Union an “evil empire” in a speech to the National Association of Evangelicals.

    Today, “radical Islam” plays that same role. Its evil underscores America’s virtue, and its brutality toward Christians proves that, once again, the United States is fighting a religious war.

    It’s harder to portray China in that role. While still a dictatorship, it’s no longer a particularly ideological one. It’s not trying to spread an anti-democratic or anti-Christian creed across the globe. It’s simply trying to enrich its people and spread its power.

    Eventually, American conservatives—and some liberals—will likely find a way to depict Beijing as this era’s version of Nazi Germany and Soviet Russia. Americans always frame their geopolitical conflicts in ideological terms. But, for now, “radical Islam” is a much easier fit.

    When historians look back at this era in American history, they’ll find the lack of political debate about China astounding. Then again, given the tenor of the GOP debate about “radical Islam,” maybe American foreign policy will be better off if the Republicans running for president leave well enough alone.



    Read more: Why Are Republican Presidential Candidates More Afraid of ISIS Than China? - The Atlantic

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Summary for the gullible: Replace radical Islam with China already!
 
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He mentioned variations of the word “Islam” six times. He said “the nuclear ambitions of the radical Islamists who control Iran” constitute the “biggest threat” to the United States. He twice emphasized his devotion to Israel. And once, about halfway through his remarks, he mentioned China.

Main Problem with the United States of America is and has always been its crazy inferiority complex. In every American's psyche its inbred from birth that they have got to have external threats and enemies in order to feel internally proud and secure. And that's the main reason why this barely 200 years old country has been in real conflict with much of the world since its violent creation:
America Has Been At War 93% of the Time – 222 Out of 239 Years – Since 1776
Below, I have reproduced a year-by-year timeline of America’s wars, which reveals something quite interesting: since the United States was founded in 1776, she has been at war during 214 out of her 235 calendar years of existence. In other words, there were only 21 calendar years in which the U.S. did not wage any wars.
 America Has Been At War 93% of the Time – 222 Out of 239 Years –
Since 1776Â :Â Information Clearing House - ICH


Its pretty obvious isn't it? Before current radical Islam, big evil Russians were the greatest threat to US security, and before that big evil Japanese, and before that you know who... So in essence, mighty American defense establishment is a bigger threat to its country's own financial security than all the external enemies combined! :D :D :D

@LeveragedBuyout Your take on the issue as an American?
 
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Republican Party presidential hopeful Chris Christie calls for war with China
Jun 14, 2015

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Chris Christie, the Governor of New Jersey who is soon expected to formally launch his bid for the US Presidency, called for adoption of a "military approach" when dealing with China during a speech given at a town hall meeting in the key state of New Hampshire.

According to the Washington Post, while discussing China at the small town of Goffstown, Christie told the audience that the US had to "let them know there are limits to what they're allowed to do." He argued that there had to be a much firmer response to island building in the South China Seas.

The Governor was quoted as saying:

That is an issue that we can handle militarily by going out there and making sure that we show them that we don' respect their claims to these artificial islands in the South China Sea that they'e building, that they're saying are theirs that are hundreds and hundreds of miles from the coast of China and are clearly in international waters. We need to send that signal to the Chinese very clearly that we do not acknowledge nor will we respect their claims to those areas.

Christie has been trying to set himself apart from other candidates in the crowded Republican Party field. His belligerent rhetoric on China looks like an effort to win over neo-conservatives with an eye on foreign policy.

While sabre-rattling is all well and good on the campaign trail, that is assuming he decides to throw his hat into the ring, it is another matter altogether to come up with a coherent strategy by which China can be confronted. The Obama administration has been trying and failing for several years now.

That being said, China bashing is almost obligatory for presidential candidates these days. Late last month, Republican candidate Carly Fiorina declared that the Chinese "can't innovate" and aren't "terribly imaginative." And let's not forget Mitt Romney's determination to label China a currency manipulator.

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US is gonna have a terrific president in 2016. The above peaceful US member is only being sarcastic. At least majority of his fellow president hopefuls do not agree with him.
 
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China is also a great opportunity for American commercial and business opportunities. There is also a limit of how much US can portray China. End of day, you pissed China too much. US are just hurting their own purse. For example, China can choose to buy all airliner from Airbus instead of Boeing. Who's the one getting hurt anyway?
 
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It's all over if the republicans win the election...
 
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That how the world always be. There is ONLY ONE winner in the ring. If China wants to be world leader then it needs to beat U.S. Look back hostory Eat Asia, it was Qin kingdom beats states around it to be supreme leader, then Mongol beats Song empire, Manchus beats Ming empire. If China wants to ne super power then You need to challenge U.S the champion or accept U.S lead.
 
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One US netizen questions the author of the article:

"So, what is Obama doing about China, this serious real-world issue? He is the guy who actually has the job of President. Not that you'd know it from how he behaves -- or anything Beinart writes.

For that matter, why don't we consider what made China feel confident that they could dredge new land and build a military base in the Spratley Islands, illegally claiming international waters, without needing to worry about the US response?

But Beinart is not about to ask that question. Might lead to negative observations on his master."

Is America ruled by circus monkeys?

No wonder it has launched a worldwide recruitment drive for monkeys。

The circus has just begun. It will be hilarious to watch.
 
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Main Problem with the United States of America is and has always been its crazy inferiority complex. In every American's psyche its inbred from birth that they have got to have external threats and enemies in order to feel internally proud and secure. And that's the main reason why this barely 200 years old country has been in real conflict with much of the world since its violent creation:

 America Has Been At War 93% of the Time – 222 Out of 239 Years –
Since 1776Â :Â Information Clearing House - ICH


Its pretty obvious isn't it? Before current radical Islam, big evil Russians were the greatest threat to US security, and before that big evil Japanese, and before that you know who... So in essence, mighty American defense establishment is a bigger to its country's own security than all the external enemies combined! :D :D :D

@LeveragedBuyout Your take on the issue as an American?

South Korea has been at war 100% of the time, 75 out of 75 years.

It's true, since the conception of South Korea in 1950 (US govern Occupied Korea from 1945-1950) and the Korean War still have not ended with a peace treaty, so technically the war is continuous. Hence since the inception of Korea, the nation is at war until now, there, 100%.

But what does that tell us? NOTHING, not a damn thing

When you look at how long a country was engage in war, there are two things one need to look at,

First being how long a war last, well, some war (not the one America fought, last for 100 year (112 to be exact) some war last only a few days (6 Day war for example. So to count how many year a country is at war is honestly, quite stupid.

On average, US war have an average length of 6-10 years. And also US usually fight 2 or 3 war at the same time, in a period of 1776-1795 (19 Years) US fought 3 wars at the same time, not because they start 3 different wars, but 3 separate campaign.

Second being who started the war? War involved the United States does not mean US started all those war, Are America responsible for all that war? You will be surprise to find out that US did not start almost 70% of those war. of the 101 war US fought since inception, 37 were started by the United States. While 64 of the war, US was the defensive party or part of Multinational Involvement

Of those, US started the following war

  1. US war of independence
  2. Northwest Indian War
  3. Quasi War (Initiated by French Privateer, but US have no proof)
  4. War of 1812
  5. Seminole Wars
  6. Aegean War of Piracy
  7. First Sumatran expedition
  8. Black Hawk War
  9. Second Seminole War
  10. Mexican-American War (Mexico Response to US Annex Texas)
  11. Puget Sound War
  12. Rogue River Wars
  13. Utah War
  14. Cortina Troubles
  15. Yavapai Wars
  16. America Civil War
  17. Snake War
  18. Powder River Expedition
  19. Comanche Campaign
  20. United States expedition to Korea
  21. Red River War
  22. Bannock War
  23. White River War
  24. Garza Revolution
  25. Second Samoan Civil War (Dispute between Germany, Britain and United States)
  26. Spanish–American War
  27. Philippine–American War, Moro Rebellion
  28. Crazy Snake Rebellion
  29. United States occupation of Nicaragua
  30. United States occupation of Haiti
  31. United States occupation of the Dominican Republic
  32. Posey War
  33. Bay of Pigs Invasion
  34. Vietnam War
  35. Invasion of Grenada
  36. United States invasion of Panama
  37. Iraq War (Operation Iraqi Freedom
 
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But what does that tell us? NOTHING, not a damn thing
Being in a state of war (financial, economic, political) vs being in a real war (militarily) are quite a different state of things. By your stupid analogy of Korea; India and Pakistan have been at war since their birth as well. Which is entirely not true. Yes, we have been in a state of war with each other, but militarily we have only had a few wars and actual skirmishes in the past 68 years of our existence. This cannot be said about US that has willingly and deliberately involved itself in military conflicts around the globe, much less on its own real borders :D :D :D
 
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Being in a state of war (financial, economic, political) vs being in a real war (militarily) are quite a different state of things. By your stupid analogy of Korea; India and Pakistan have been at war since their birth as well. Which is entirely not true. Yes, we have been in a state of war with each other, but militarily we have only had a few wars and actual skirmishes in the past 68 years of our existence. This cannot be said about US that has willingly and deliberately involved itself in military conflicts around the globe, much less on its own real borders :D :D :D

You still haven't got what I said and why I said it......

Most of the time US is in "WAR" is actually like you said, in a State of War instead of actual war.

Most "War" American fought is when the Indian raid the White settlement and US send army to the reservation and wait it out for 5 or 6 years (cause the Indian is moving around). You do know most warfare lasted 5 year with Indian have no more than 2 battles??

Also, the US does not involve in war all over the world, apart from world war, the only place US goes to war are South America, the Pacific and North Africa/some Middle Eastern Region.

Apart from World War and Campaign in South America, I can name less than 10 countries in Europe and Middle East were attacked one way or another by the United States

Libya, Spain, UK, Russia, Iraq, Afghanistan, Philippine, China, French and Vietnam

Think you probably need to beef up US History, instead of looking at things with an "objective" angle
 
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Main Problem with the United States of America is and has always been its crazy inferiority complex. In every American's psyche its inbred from birth that they have got to have external threats and enemies in order to feel internally proud and secure. And that's the main reason why this barely 200 years old country has been in real conflict with much of the world since its violent creation:

 America Has Been At War 93% of the Time – 222 Out of 239 Years –
Since 1776Â :Â Information Clearing House - ICH


Its pretty obvious isn't it? Before current radical Islam, big evil Russians were the greatest threat to US security, and before that big evil Japanese, and before that you know who... So in essence, mighty American defense establishment is a bigger threat to its country's own financial security than all the external enemies combined! :D :D :D

@LeveragedBuyout Your take on the issue as an American?

First, let me congratulate you on a perfect troll-bait thread. :rolleyes:

You're making three separate points here that I will address separately. If you didn't intend to make them separately, please elaborate on the connection between the "China threat" theory, America's alleged inferiority complex, and America's history of war.

1) "China is the real enemy"

I already addressed this more comprehensively in the following post:

The Death of a Superpower? | Page 2

But the short take-away is that China and the US are engaged in a struggle for dominance based on economics, and from our economic systems flow our view of how the world should function. I don't believe that America's trepidation towards China's rise is driven by a militaristic nature, but rather by the desire to compete and win economically. We have created a regime (liberal free trade, rule of law, favoring democracy) that allows us to prosper. Under China's system (based on concepts of racial supremacy, rule by law with favored groups above the law, lack of respect for property rights), our success is not assured.

That's why we cannot allow China to reshape the global order--not because it's China specifically that is challenging us, but because the CCP's way of doing things is not compatible with/anathema to our own. Japan's rise caused anxiety in the US, but never the level of fear that China's rise has created; and that is because Japan's system was different, but still recognizable to us. China's is not.

If China further converges with Western standards and becomes the Singapore writ-large that I have been predicting, then you will see the "China threat" stance dissipate, because our systems will have become compatible. This is how Pax Britannica peacefully transitioned to Pax Americana, and it is still a possibility for the transition to Pax Sinica. But that's up to China.

2) America has an inferiority complex

Can you demonstrate this? We have considered ourselves to be the "exceptional nation" since our founding. We created (and still have) a "more perfect union" than any other political system in the world--from our standpoint, at least. Sure, the leftists will say we are the worst, but the leftists in every country believe their own country is the worst.

3) America's goals with war

Except for the War of 1812 and the Spanish-American War of 1898, I would struggle to think of a war that wasn't driven by a genuine desire to pro-actively protect our way of life, from the American Revolution, to the Barbary Wars, to the Civil War, to the World Wars, to the wars of containment (Korea, Vietnam, the small wars, Middle East wars, etc.). We conduct war because it is our belief since WWII that the best defense is a good offense. I'm not a military professional, but it is my understanding that it is advantageous to choose the time, place, and manner of conflict, rather than have it chosen for you.

Your post is a bit skeletal, so I would appreciate elaboration and further connecting of the dots before I go further, so I get a sense of what you're positing.
 
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