The Great Game Changer: Belt and Road Intiative (BRI; OBOR)

[Edison Chen]

Vietnam so bad so poor, seeking protection everywhere, from Russia, Japan or even India, but no country takes you for consideration seriously, it's all Viets delusion and wet dream, it's like masturbation.

you know too little about Russia.

Russia itself has the potential to return to the status of a superpower. It teams up with others as you name it if they fit in Russia global interests. the Russians are more imperialistic than the Chinese. India only plays a minor role on world stage.

If they can, they already did.

 

[BDforever]

you know too little about Russia.

Russia itself has the potential to return to the status of a superpower. It teams up with others as you name it if they fit in Russia global interests. the Russians are more imperialistic than the Chinese. India only plays a minor role on world stage.

I know very well about Russia and world history and keep china apart, you can not compare it with others, it never played imperialism. Talking about India ? well even china does not talk much in global stage, both of them are silent players. And I talked about Future, read it again

 

[Srinivas]

Russia is not teaming up against China, rather it is now going for aggressive foreign policy. Russia kept itself isolated in foreign affairs, now it is going to break the status. the headline is pure wet dream of USA and west but reality is future alliance is going to form between China, Russia, India and some extend with Pakistan. Now Brace yourself

Things on the ground are different these days!!

Russia is against West but certainly it do not want to loose its far east territories to resource hungry China. India and Russia has common grounds regarding strategic partnership and alliance.

China ruled by CCP is a problem to its neighbors .... may a democratic China will help for the cause of East against West.

A bunch of 200 odd CCP leaders who has accumulated Billions of dollars of personal wealth in the last decade and are trying to stamp their hegemony are a problem for all.

 

[BDforever]

Things on the ground are different these days!!

Russia is against West but certainly it do not want to loose its far east territories to resource hungry China. India and Russia has common grounds regarding strategic partnership and alliance.

China ruled by CCP is a problem to its neighbors .... may a democratic China will help for the cause of East against West.

A bunch of 200 odd CCP leaders who has accumulated Billions of dollars of personal wealth in the last decade and are trying to stamp their hegemony are a problem for all.

democracy is not the solution, may be CCP is best for China. China is not a threat, never been. The showcase in South China sea is because of huge presence of US troops, it does not want US and its alliance close to it

 

[Viet]

China has no illusions about Russia. We are strategic partners not bed fellows. That's why we have been building our economy & military in earnest with lots or tech. acquisition & research. vietnma will serve as a pawn in the Great Game, either by the US or Russia, either way it doesn't matter.

ha ha ha...who is a pawn?

Vietnam controls Laos and Cambodia via "friendship treaty". Via other organisations such as ASEAN and Mekong pact we have more political and eonomics influence in SE Asia than China. plus, Vietnam establishes strategic relationships with the great and middle powers (P5 plus Germany), balancing between them to get the most benefits.

in the global politics, national interests matter more than a friendship. Russia is potentially more an enemy to China than a friend, should it come to a regional conflict in Asia.

I know very well about Russia and world history and keep china apart, you can not compare it with others, it never played imperialism. Talking about India ? well even china does not talk much in global stage, both of them are silent players. And I talked about Future, read it again

again, the Western takes imperial Russia seriously on world stage, while China is seen as a regional bully, a hooligan of Asia. sure, China will play a bigger role in the future, but mostly in the economics. Chinese have neither the will nor capacity to play politics on world stage. They are too sino centric. the legacy of mindset of being a Middle Kingdom. I don´t blame them.

you can notice reactions of some delusional Chinese posters here: copy Russia and annex Mongolia, Phillipines or Vietnam.

 

[Viet]

democracy is not the solution, may be CCP is best for China. China is not a threat, never been. The showcase in South China sea is because of huge presence of US troops, it does not want US and its alliance close to it

China raged wars against Vietnam. CCP claims the SC Sea as theirs, virtually takes others the livelihood. they bully Vietnam and others at daily basis, and you say China is not a threat?

I believe you are delusional, too.

 

[Pangu]

nd eonomics influence in SE Asia than China. plus, Vietnam establishes strategic relationships with the great and middle powers (P5 plus Germany), bal

ha ha ha...who is a pawn?

Vietnam controls Laos and Cambodia via "friendship treaty". Via other organisations such as ASEAN and Mekong pact we have more political and eonomics influence in SE Asia than China. plus, Vietnam establishes strategic relationships with the great and middle powers (P5 plus Germany), balancing between them to get the most benefits.

in the global politics, national interests matter more than a friendship. Russia is potentially more an enemy to China than a friend, should it come to a regional conflict in Asia.

You must have forgotten how Cambodia saboatge the ASEAN summit, which was to be used by viet & pinoy on the SCS issue against China? Do you even know what happen in that event? How ministers of ASEAN countries were trying to "get the hell outta here" before viet & pinoys could even speak a word? Research on this subject then you'll see who's your so called friends.

You are so right about national interest primacy over friendship fallacy. Which is precisely the point I've made - Russia or the US will use viet against China, not because they are your friend, but you serve a purpose. Case in point - USSR used viet during the vietnam war against the US, without Soviet spilling a drop of blood. Agent orange should remind you of those faithful years

 

[NiceGuy]

Russia will help VN to unite Sub-Mekong region. After successfully united the region, VN will get bigger and stronger, then, both Great Russia and Great Viet will sandwich China and treat China as a cheap clown in Asia.

 

[Srinivas]

democracy is not the solution, may be CCP is best for China. China is not a threat, never been. The showcase in South China sea is because of huge presence of US troops, it does not want US and its alliance close to it

CCP is for pure Hegemony!!

 

[xunzi]

The Vietnamese are some of the most naive people in the world. Back during the Vietnam war, Soviet did not want to intervene directly and was force to go through us to support the VN war against America. Then when we split with the Soviet, we dare the Soviet to attack us over us attacking their puppet ally, Vietnam. What happen? The Soviet didn't attack despite having defense treaty with Vietnam at the time. Fact remains, Russia is only using the little Vietnam to check us. We already know that. We use the West the same way. The key here is Russia will not directly fight military with us over Vietnam. They never try that during our weakest point in 1960s-1990s. Don't expect Russia to do that now. Soviet-VN relation were much tighter back then than today.

Now due to our non-interference foreign policy, we do not care who ally with whom as long as there is no specific target from any alliance. This actually fulfill our agenda which is to create a multipolarity. Russia-alliance, West alliance, and soon there will be China-alliance in the 21st century. We will not propose a China-alliance until we are ready military and economically stable. Look for us to propose a China-PAK alliance which will included some members in the Middle-east, South Asia, Africa, and Central America. We have been nurturing African states and Central America states for this very reason, a potential future alliance.

 

[xunzi]

when china become a mad man, P2 US , Russia, and Japan will help us to make nuke as fast as possible. So why US let us to use USA technology for entrichten atom material to be use in nukepower plant in Vietnam.

It showed that China is enemy of Vietnam. China is big boy but bad boy.

Keep dreaming, my Vietnamese friend. LOL The ONE thing the P5 have common agenda and that is they want to preserve their power by keeping others from gaining nuclear weapon. I feel sorry for you Vietnamese being a pawn in this great power game. Last but not least as I said many times, you are not allow to enrich high-grade uranium. The moment you enrich more than 10%, you will set a red flag and you will be a dog in the war against P5's agenda. Good luck fighting against the P5. LOL

 

[Viet]

You must have forgotten how Cambodia saboatge the ASEAN summit, which was to be used by viet & pinoy on the SCS issue against China? Do you even know what happen in that event? How ministers of ASEAN countries were trying to "get the hell outta here" before viet & pinoys could even speak a word? Research on this subject then you'll see who's your so called friends.

You are so right about national interest primacy over friendship fallacy. Which is precisely the point I've made - Russia or the US will use viet against China, not because they are your friend, but you serve a purpose. Case in point - USSR used viet during the vietnam war against the US, without Soviet spilling a drop of blood. Agent orange should remind you of those faithful years

the episode you mentioned with Cambodia/ASEAN was just a minor issue. Don´t overstate one single event. fact remains, at the end of the day, Cambodia supports Vietnam/Philippines stance. So China has no choice and agreed to negotiate over the new code of conduct.

you should not forget during the China-Vietnam war in the 1979, the Soviets mobilized 600,000 strong army for the invasion of China, equipped with over 400 short and medium range nuke missiles, all for Chinese cities. You should be thankful that the war had not escalated. Otherwise things would get very ugly.

 

[Viet]

Vietnam so bad so poor, seeking protection everywhere, from Russia, Japan or even India, but no country takes you for consideration seriously, it's all Viets delusion and wet dream, it's like masturbation.
If they can, they already did.

Russia needs time to return to the former status of superpower.
as for Vietnam, we need more time, too to return to the former status: Master of SE Asia

 

[NiceGuy]

The Vietnamese are some of the most naive people in the world. Back during the Vietnam war, Soviet did not want to intervene directly and was force to go through us to support the VN war against America. Then when we split with the Soviet, we dare the Soviet to attack us over us attacking their puppet ally, Vietnam. What happen? The Soviet didn't attack despite having defense treaty with Vietnam at the time. Fact remains, Russia is only using the little Vietnam to check us. We already know that. We use the West the same way. The key here is Russia will not directly fight military with us over Vietnam. They never try that during our weakest point in 1960s-1990s. Don't expect Russia to do that now. Soviet-VN relation were much tighter back then than today.
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We didnt need Russia army when fighting against US, so why we need Russia troops to fight against a much weaker and backward enemy like PLA in 1979 ???

 

[KAL-EL]

Russia will help VN to unite Sub-Mekong region. After successfully united the region, VN will get bigger and stronger, then, both Great Russia and Great Viet will sandwich China and treat China as a cheap clown in Asia.

You really think this will happen? I give you credit! No matter what happens, no one can say you're not an optimist