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Mr Xi and Mr Putin have pledged a “rejuvenation” of their nations and have stoked xenophobia with appeals to populist nationalism...

Where is xenopohobia in China or Russia?

If China and Russia are xenophobic, what is the US regime all about where, in election time, the number 1 selling point is xenophobia?

Western press is getting more and more desperate.
 
No, China is explicitly not a part of Eurasia. Btw, I'm not anti-China but you Chinese guys didn't understand this ideology at this point. We are talking about a Russian concept. It also aims to exclude China from the Russian sphere of influence (= Central and West Asia).


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On the one hand Peking isn't considered as an enemy according to Russian chief ideologists. But on the other hand the Russians don't want to see you in any Central Asian nation (Turkic countries). In essence Eurasianism is a "Slavic-Turkic thing". But of course, the vast majority of Turkic people don't support this Russian grasp. Many are happy that China offers a second option.

I personally don't support a Turkish membership in the Eurasian Union and I'm against any kind of Turanian dreaming. We have enough problems at home already.
 
Where is xenopohobia in China or Russia?

If China and Russia are xenophobic, what is the US regime all about where, in election time, the number 1 selling point is xenophobia?

Western press is getting more and more desperate.
Indeed, the western media is getting desperate, they are spinning and hyping.

Mr Xi and Mr Putin have pledged a “rejuvenation” of their nations and have stoked xenophobia with appeals to populist nationalism and by carefully shaping a strongman image with the help of tightly controlled state media.
This is the full sentence.

This (unnecessary) sentence was added to denigrate the budding China and Russian's relationship. All press have an agenda to push.
 
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Russian officers and soldiers waves to say goodbye to Chinese fleet during a China-Russia naval joint drill at sea off south China's Guangdong Province, Sept. 19, 2016. The closing ceremony of the "Joint Sea 2016" drill was held at the joint director department after Chinese and Russian fleets completed all scheduled subjects of the drill on a sea area east of Zhanjiang in south China's Guangdong Province on Monday. (Xinhua/Zha Chunming)



Russian officers and soldiers waves to say goodbye to Chinese fleet during a China-Russia naval joint drill at sea off south China's Guangdong Province, Sept. 19, 2016. The closing ceremony of the "Joint Sea 2016" drill was held at the joint director department after Chinese and Russian fleets completed all scheduled subjects of the drill on a sea area east of Zhanjiang in south China's Guangdong Province on Monday. (Xinhua/Zha Chunming)



Chinese officers and soldiers waves to say goodbye to Russian fleet during a China-Russia naval joint drill at sea off south China's Guangdong Province, Sept. 19, 2016. The closing ceremony of the "Joint Sea 2016" drill was held at the joint director department after Chinese and Russian fleets completed all scheduled subjects of the drill on a sea area east of Zhanjiang in south China's Guangdong Province on Monday. (Xinhua/Zha Chunming)



Chinese officers and soldiers waves to say goodbye to Russian fleet during a China-Russia naval joint drill at sea off south China's Guangdong Province, Sept. 19, 2016. The closing ceremony of the "Joint Sea 2016" drill was held at the joint director department after Chinese and Russian fleets completed all scheduled subjects of the drill on a sea area east of Zhanjiang in south China's Guangdong Province on Monday. (Xinhua/Zha Chunming)



Chinese officers and soldiers waves to say goodbye to Russian fleet during a China-Russia naval joint drill at sea off south China's Guangdong Province, Sept. 19, 2016. The closing ceremony of the "Joint Sea 2016" drill was held at the joint director department after Chinese and Russian fleets completed all scheduled subjects of the drill on a sea area east of Zhanjiang in south China's Guangdong Province on Monday. (Xinhua/Zha Chunming)



Chinese frigate "Guangzhou" fires secondary guns during a China-Russia naval joint drill at sea off south China's Guangdong Province, Sept. 18, 2016. Chinese and Russian fleets conducted weapon use on a sea area east of Zhanjiang in south China's Guangdong Province during the "Joint Sea 2016" drill on Sunday. (Xinhua/Zha Chunming)



Chinese frigate "Guangzhou" fires depth charge rockets during a China-Russia naval joint drill at sea off south China's Guangdong Province, Sept. 18, 2016. Chinese and Russian fleets conducted weapon use on a sea area east of Zhanjiang in south China's Guangdong Province during the "Joint Sea 2016" drill on Sunday. (Xinhua/Zha Chunming)



Chinese and Russian fleets fire main guns during a China-Russia naval joint drill at sea off south China's Guangdong Province, Sept. 18, 2016. Chinese and Russian fleets conducted weapon use on a sea area east of Zhanjiang in south China's Guangdong Province during the "Joint Sea 2016" drill on Sunday. (Xinhua/Zha Chunming)
 


Chinese navy's helicopter sends a rescuer to the drowning crew of a merchant ship during a China-Russia naval joint drill at sea off south China's Guangdong Province, Sept. 16, 2016. Chinese and Russian fleets conducted joint operation exercise off Guangdong Province in the South China Sea during the "Joint Sea 2016" drill on Friday. The drill, starting on Sept. 12, will run until Sept. 19, consisting of three phases: preparation at port, exercise at sea and summary. (Xinhua/Zha Chunming)



Chinese frigate "Huangshan" sends marines to search a suspicious ship during a China-Russia naval joint drill at sea off south China's Guangdong Province, Sept. 16, 2016. Chinese and Russian fleets conducted joint operation exercise off Guangdong Province in the South China Sea during the "Joint Sea 2016" drill on Friday. The drill, starting on Sept. 12, will run until Sept. 19, consisting of three phases: preparation at port, exercise at sea and summary. (Xinhua/Zha Chunming)



Chinese frigate "Huangshan" sends marines to search a suspicious ship during a China-Russianaval joint drill at sea off south China's Guangdong Province, Sept. 16, 2016. Chinese and Russian fleets conducted joint operation exercise off Guangdong Province in the South China Seaduring the "Joint Sea 2016" drill on Friday. The drill, starting on Sept. 12, will run until Sept. 19, consisting of three phases: preparation at port, exercise at sea and summary. (Xinhua/Zha Chunming)



Chinese marines take part in a joint naval drill in Zhanjiang, south China's Guangdong Province, Sept. 14, 2016. China and Russia started "Joint Sea 2016" drill off Guangdong Province in the South China Sea on Tuesday. The drill will run until Sept. 19, featuring navy surface ships, submarines, fixed-wing aircraft, helicopters, marines and amphibious armored equipment. (Xinhua/Zha Chunming)



Chinese and Russian marines hug during a joint naval drill in Zhanjiang, south China's Guangdong Province, Sept. 14, 2016. China and Russia started "Joint Sea 2016" drill off Guangdong Province in the South China Sea on Tuesday. The drill will run until Sept. 19, featuring navy surface ships, submarines, fixed-wing aircraft, helicopters, marines and amphibious armored equipment. (Xinhua/Zha Chunming)
 
No, China is explicitly not a part of Eurasia. Btw, I'm not anti-China but you Chinese guys didn't understand this ideology at this point. We are talking about a Russian concept. It also aims to exclude China from the Russian sphere of influence (= Central and West Asia).


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On the one hand Peking isn't considered as an enemy according to Russian chief ideologists. But on the other hand the Russians don't want to see you in any Central Asian nation (Turkic countries). In essence Eurasianism is a "Slavic-Turkic thing". But of course, the vast majority of Turkic people don't support this Russian grasp. Many are happy that China offers a second option.

I personally don't support a Turkish membership in the Eurasian Union and I'm against any kind of Turanian dreaming. We have enough problems at home already.

China is Eurasia. Without China, Eurasianism is dead as a cold stone. One needs economic, political and industrial capability to initiate a discourse as wide as Eurasianism. Currently, only China is capable of doing that. Hence the reason the AIIB is shooting for 100+ membership.

Historical Eurasianism is a dream. It is a romantic ideology born in the early 1900s in Russia as a pan-Slavic notion. The idea was mostly based on Russia's territorial unity and was exclusivist.

China-led Eurasianism is called the new-Eurasianism for this reason. For its insignia is one of integration through extensive lines of communication and trade across Eurasian heartland, with China acting as the ideational and material center of it.

In that case, China-led Eurasianism is totally disconnected from the historical Eurasianism. That's the reason why it is based on the ancient Silk Road idea.

Russia is the most strategic component of the whole OBOR concept because, without Russia, China is geographically disconnected from the safest route to Western Europe. That's the reason China has been extremely active to get Moscow involved at every level.

In fact, the first institutional cooperation was formed with Russia with the agreement between Russia-led EEU and China's OBOR. The SCO, on the other hand, completes the security aspect. Central Asian Russophone republics are part and parcel of this plan.

China-Russia relations is not simply on paper or in theory, it is fully institutionalized.
 
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China-Russia naval drill ends with island-seizing mission
September 20, 2016, Xinhua




The Chinese and Russian navies stage a mission to seize an island on Sunday, marking the end of the two countries' joint drill this year.[Photo by GAN JUN/CHINA DAILY]

The Chinese and Russian navies staged a mission to seize an island on Sunday as part of an eight-day exercise in the South China Sea.

As the key element of the annual drill, the navies dispatched warships, marine forces, helicopters and amphibious armored equipment for the mission.

The exercise demonstrated the Chinese and Russian navies' capacities in command management, telecommunications coordination, and intelligence and information sharing, said Senior Captain Li Xiangdong, who commanded the Chinese warships.

The mission marked the end of the China-Russia Joint Sea 2016 drill, which started on Sept 12 in eastern waters off Zhanjiang, the southernmost city in Guangdong province and the base of the Nanhai Fleet. A closing ceremony was to be held on Monday.

Compared with previous years, the 2016 drill focused more on confrontational capacity such as surface warships, submarines and land-based defenses, Li said, adding that the use of an advanced command system made communication between the two navies smoother.

It was also the first time the China-Russia joint exercise had been held in the South China Sea.

Rear Admiral Yu Manjiang, vice-commander of the Nanhai Fleet and commander of the joint exercise, said the sea was a natural choice for the drill as the two countries have already held exercises in China's other waters.

"Some people and countries are pointing fingers at this (joint drill), but this is not necessary at all," he said, adding that it is an annual drill that does not target a third party.

A. Maxim, a lieutenant captain with the Russian navy's marine force, said the exercise had promoted mutual understanding between the two navies.

Ten Chinese ships-destroyers, frigates, landing ships, supply ships and submarines-took part in the drill as well as 11 fixed-wing aircraft, eight helicopters and 160 marines.

Also involved were Russia's large anti-submarine ships Admiral Tributs and Admiral Vinogradov, the large amphibious ship Peresvet, the sea towboat Alatau and the tanker Pechenga.

Captain Sun Hao, who was in charge of the island-seizing mission, said the marine forces of both sides could understand each other despite the language barrier.

"I noticed that during the exercise that soldiers from the two countries could communicate with body language, simple English and even eye contact," he said.

Roman Kosarev, a journalist for Russia Today who covered the drill, agreed with Sun and added: "Increasingly, language has not been a problem."








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China is Eurasia. Without China, Eurasianism is dead as a cold stone. One needs economic, political and industrial capability to initiate a discourse as wide as Eurasianism. Currently, only China is capable of doing that. Hence the reason the AIIB is shooting for 100+ membership.

Historical Eurasianism is a dream. It is a romantic ideology born in the early 1900s in Russia as a pan-Slavic notion. The idea was mostly based on Russia's territorial unity and was exclusivist.

China-led Eurasianism is called the new-Eurasianism for this reason. For its insignia is one of integration through extensive lines of communication and trade across Eurasian heartland, with China acting as the ideational and material center of it.

In that case, China-led Eurasianism is totally disconnected from the historical Eurasianism. That's the reason why it is based on the ancient Silk Road idea.

Russia is the most strategic component of the whole OBOR concept because, without Russia, China is geographically disconnected from the safest route to Western Europe. That's the reason China has been extremely active to get Moscow involved at every level.

In fact, the first institutional cooperation was formed with Russia with the agreement between Russia-led EEU and China's OBOR. The SCO, on the other hand, completes the security aspect. Central Asian Russophone republics are part and parcel of this plan.

China-Russia relations is not simply on paper or in theory, it is fully institutionalized.
Eurasia is just Slavo-Turkic ...Not Chinese.
 
No, China is explicitly not a part of Eurasia. Btw, I'm not anti-China but you Chinese guys didn't understand this ideology at this point. We are talking about a Russian concept. It also aims to exclude China from the Russian sphere of influence (= Central and West Asia).


Eurasia_and_eurasianism.png


On the one hand Peking isn't considered as an enemy according to Russian chief ideologists. But on the other hand the Russians don't want to see you in any Central Asian nation (Turkic countries). In essence Eurasianism is a "Slavic-Turkic thing". But of course, the vast majority of Turkic people don't support this Russian grasp. Many are happy that China offers a second option.

I personally don't support a Turkish membership in the Eurasian Union and I'm against any kind of Turanian dreaming. We have enough problems at home already.
It really is just a Slav and Turk thing. No clue what these Chinese are trying to achieve lol.
 
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Many turks here emphasizes that China is not a a part of eurasia.They are right,if the so-called "eurasia" is just a package of the soviet's sphere of influence.Like this picture .LOL,it shows us that why the turkey tried its best to join the NATO.
Well,China is now constructing the "Asiaeuro",not "Eurasia".
Whether China is a part of eurasia or not, China is here.
 
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`Without a Centre no Circle can not be drawn....centre is the essence of all circles....

OBOR is the circle both on land and on sea...

A circle of new paradigm... a circle of Community of Prosperity.

Without China no -ism can sustain itself in today's world.

What is critical in our discourse in this very relevant thread is not to fall into rising China non-starter as it will happen here by our 'friends'.

What is essential to visit the subject of Recovery of China both as Civilisation and as economy. China is in recovery mode since the incepction of PRC... this process of recovery will continue for coming 3 decades.

So the question arises: What role eurasia plays in the recovery of China and by default Chinese Axis?
For if China recovers so will the Sino Friends.

Very interesting thread!
 
View attachment 336109 Many turks here emphasizes that China is not a a part of eurasia.They are right,if the so-called "eurasia" is just a package of the soviet's sphere of influence.Like this picture .LOL,it shows us that why the turkey tried its best to join the NATO.
Well,China is now constructing the "Asiaeuro",not "Eurasia".
Whether China is a part of eurasia or not, China is here.
Yes, China is here, just not in Eurasia.
 
What is Eurasianism?

Published on
September 18th, 2016
by Graham E. Fuller


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Photo: Meeting of Eurasian Economic Council.
You might recall the term “Eurasia” from high school geography classes. The term isn’t used much any more in political discussions in the West, but it should be. That is where the most serious geopolitical action is going to be taking place in the world as we move deeper into the 21st century. The US, focused so intently on “containment” of Russia, ISIS, and China will be missing the bigger Eurasian strategic picture.

Eurasia is the greatest landmass of the world, embracing Europe and all of Asia—some of the oldest and greatest centers of human civilization.

So what is Eurasianism? It has meant different things at different periods. A century ago, the Kissingers of the time spun theories about a deep and inevitable strategic clash between sea-borne power (UK/US) and continental/land-based powers (Germany, Russia.) “Eurasia” then meant mostly Europe and western Russia. Indeed, what need was there to talk then about Asia itself, most of Asia was underdeveloped and lay under the control of the British Empire (India) or the French (Indo-China) and had no independent will. Japan was the only real “Asian power”—that ironically developed its own imperial designs, and thus came to clash with American imperial power in the Pacific.

Today of course all that is different. Eurasia increasingly means “Asia” in which the “Euro” part figures modestly. Furthermore, China has now become the center of Eurasia as the world’s largest economy. Not surprisingly, China (like the Muslim world) projects a decidedly “anti-imperial” bent based on what it sees as its humiliation at the hands of the West and Japan during its two-hundred year eclipse—during one of its dynastic down-cycles. But China is very much back now into a classic “up-cycle” mode of power and influence again and is determined to project its weight and influence. India too now is now a rapidly developing power with regional reach. And Japan, while quiescent, still represents formidable economic power, perhaps to be augmented by greater military regional reach.

The significance of the term “Eurasian” has changed a good deal, but it still suggests strategic rivalry. At a time when the US formally declares its intent to militarily dominate the world (“full spectrum dominance” was the official Pentagon doctrine in 2000) the concept of Eurasianism is responding with vigor. And not just in China, but in its new significance for countries like Russia, Iran, even Turkey. It suggests a sense of the eclipse of dominant western power in the face of new Asian power.

It’s not all just about military and money. It’s also cultural. Russian culture has for two centuries maintained a lively debate about whether Russia belongs to the West, or embodies a distinctly Eurasian (yevraziiskaya) culture that is separate from the West. Eurasianists represent a significant force within Russian strategic and military thinking (although Putin, interestingly, does not fully embrace this world-view.)

The idea is a vague but culturally important one; it grapples with Russian identity. It speaks of a Slavic culture but with deep Eurasian roots even in an old Turkic and Tatar past. Remember that historically it is the modern West that torched Russia twice: witness the invasions of Napoleon and Hitler up to the gates of Moscow. Nato today probes ever more deeply all around the Russian periphery. The Eurasianists are suspicious of, if not hostile to, the West as a permanent threat to “Holy Mother Russia.” “Eurasianism” will always lurk just beneath the surface in the Russian strategic world-view.

That is what Russia’s new Eurasian Economic Union is all about, a goal to at least economically unite Belarus, the Central Asian states and others into a greater Eurasian economic whole. (Oil-rich Kazakstan was actually the author of the concept; it will seek to maintain ties with the West; but look at it its place on a world map to see where Kazakstan’s real long-term options lie. Russia may not now be the best economic star to tie one’s future to, but it is just one of many Eurasian vehicles out there and they are not mutually exclusive. Options bring greater security.

China is moving in stunningly ambitious directions in creating the new Asia Infrastructure Investment Bank (that 57 states have signed onto including most European states, Canada and Australia—but conspicuously without Japan so far, or the US.) This creates a new Eurasian-focused central banking instrument with strong Chinese influence. China is also projecting massive new transportation networks (the Silk Road Economic Belt and the Maritime Silk Road —“One Belt One Road”) across Eurasia to China linking China to Europe, the Middle East, Central and South Asia, and the Far East by rail, road, and sea. China’s “Eurasian strategy” is already a burgeoning reality. Yes, suspicions and rivalries exist between Russia and China and India and Japan. But the strong economic and developmental thrust of these proposals differ markedly from the American more “security” focused organization with its worrisome military implications.

Not only has Washington fought these Chinese and Eurasian initiatives unsuccessfully, but it is US policies in particular—that identify both Russia and China as the presumptive enemy—that have helped bring Russia and China together on many issues, linked now by shared distrust of US global military ambitions.

Japan, incidentally, before World War II had its own doctrine of “Eurasianism” —an effort to identify with and stir up Asian peoples and territories against western colonial domination; this strategy could have been quite effective had it not been accompanied by Japan’s own brutal military invasions of East Asian countries, destroying the credibility of the Japanese “Greater East Asia Co-prosperity Sphere”. Today Japan hasn’t moved its location; it will still have to deal with the reality of Chinese power in the East. And what Japanese leader would seriously pursue a long range policy of hostility to China in support of a US Pacific strategy that is inherently designed to bottle up China? Especially when China and Japan are huge mutual trading and investment partners?

Iran is keenly interested in balancing against geopolitical pressures from the US and seeks membership in these Russian and Chinese economic development institutions. Iran is a natural “Eurasian “ and “Silk Road” power.

Turkey has gotten into the Eurasian game, again. Going back to the early days of Erdogan’s AK Party foreign policy— in the vision of then foreign minister Davutoglu—Turkey was no longer limited to being a western power, but also proclaimed its geopolitical interests (nearly a hundred years after the fall of the Ottoman Empire) in the Middle East, and indeed, Eurasia. (After all, the Turks originally come from Eurasia, having migrated west from Lake Baikal a thousand years ago.) That means serious ties with Russia, combined with deep ethnic, cultural and historical ties with Central Asia, and with China. Turkey (like Iran and Pakistan) seeks to be part of these Russian and Chinese networks. And, among some Turkish nationalist politicians and military officers (including many secular Kemalists) there is strong “Eurasianist” leaning to expand Turkey’s geopolitical options to explore strategic and cultural ties with Eurasia. It also reflects an expression of distrust of western and US efforts to dominate the region.

For Turkey this is not an either/or issue. It can seek to be part of Europe (including Nato) but will not relinquish the broad geostrategic alternative options to the East, with its ever greater economic clout, and roads and rails to link it.

In short, the new Eurasianism is no longer about nineteenth century land and sea power. It is an acknowledgment that the era of western (and especially US) global dominance is over. Washington can no longer command (or afford) a longer-term bid to dominate Eurasia. In economic terms no state in the region, including Turkey, would be foolish enough to turn its back on this rising “Eurasian” potential that also offers strategic balance and economic options.

There are, of course, huge fault-lines across Eurasia—ethnic, economic, strategic, and some degree of rivalry. But the more Washington attempts to contain or throttle Eurasianism as a genuine rising force, the greater will be the determination of states to become part of this rising Eurasian world, even while not rejecting the West.

All countries like to have alternatives. They don’t like to lie beholden to a single global power that tries to call the shots. America’s narrative of what the global order is all about is no longer accepted globally. Furthermore it is no longer realistic. It would seem short-sighted for Washington to continue focus upon expanding military alliances while most of the rest of the world is looking to greater prosperity and rising regional clout. (China’s military expenditures are about one quarter of US spending.)



Graham E. Fuller is a former senior CIA official, author of numerous books on the Muslim World; his latest book is “Breaking Faith: A novel of espionage and an American’s crisis of conscience in Pakistan.” (Amazon, Kindle).

Source: http://lobelog.com/what-is-eurasianism/
Some people dont get the term ''Eurasianism'',thats why they post these dumb comments.
They forget that there is the question of soft power(economic,financial) which is more important then military power which means that without China,there cant be Eurasianism.
However,the dumb comment from the known troll about my country is also ridiculous because my country is seen as one of the pilars of Eurasianism.
 
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