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The Future of Supreme Leader: Part II

Article: 235 Proclamation in case of financial emergency

https://pakistanconstitutionlaw.com/article-235-proclamation-in-case-of-financial-emergency/

This is the solution given in the constitution. But IK want to stay within the system and is too afraid to implement this model.

All IK have to do is
[1] invoke Article 235 (Financial Emergency)
[2] shut down media for a week or so
[3] start arresting the corrupt
[4] seize their assets/bank accounts
[5] anybody who refuses to sign and give back the money, then do whatever is necessary (waterboarding would be good)

But this won't happen so not a penny would be recovered by IK from Nawaz and others.




My very dear Young Pak,

There are so many instruements of application available... as I pointed out in my #CriminalEnterprise thread... Organised Corruption is Crime Against Humanity.

All one has to do is go to SCP and file a petition in this regard.

What is required is Will.

Who will find the courage, fortitude and competence to excercise this Will?

PMIK can claim all he wants about NRO... but there are many forms of this curse in Pak.

Financial Emergency
must have placed months ago..and caught all money changers under investigation... a big source of moneylaundering.

What it appears is that the Pak State is in waiting mode... the State wanted to give IK a chance as well...

And in all honesty IK is working hard, swimming against the current on daily basis... but the entire system is rigged. I mean he cann't even appoint a freaking FBR chief...

A complete overhaul of the system is the Necessity.

IK would do his best and seeing he is not able to deliver.. he will put the last nail in the coffin of this system.

Emergency can be the context for having an interim setup for 2-3 years... after the clean up we shall have elections.

But I do agree with you... the same methods be applied to these mega thieves as are applied to a hen thief.

NO Mercy!

Mangus
 
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@Shane I appreciate your idea to completely overcome the convicted #CorruptEnterprise.

Let us look at current constitution & verdict of courts in a case of kleptocrat Nawaz.

As we know to implement any framework in order to engulf with iron hands to the #CorruptEnterprise, so 2/3 majority is required in Parliament to pass the framework & New laws.

On the other end SC disqualified NS on the bases of Dual jobs with iqama (As we know what does iqama mean but let focus on ground realities). NS never presented any real money trail. Otherwise NS could have been easily convected as a looter of the country, But somehow his lawyers managed to save him.

NS was convected & guilty by the SC so he has been disqualified for the whole life because he never presented any money trail & 7 years of jail because of dual jobs & he never mentioned his iqama on nomination papers that is why he is no longer sadiq o Ameen by the constitutions of Pakistan.


Now if we compare the suggested framework of yours where criminal was not convected as a kleptocract by the constitution, in this scenario we have only one option which is NRO or 2/3 majority in Parliament for IK which is not possible in near future.
 
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As we know to implement any framework in order to engulf with iron hands to the #CorruptEnterprise, so 2/3 majority is required in Parliament to pass the framework & New laws
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Now if we compare the suggested framework of yours where criminal was not convected as a kleptocract by the constitution, in this scenario we have only one option which is NRO or 2/3 majority in Parliament for the IK which is not possible in near future.
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There is a way to bypass lack of 2/3 majority in parliament, that's why I already mentioned the following in my solution:
Explanation:
The Government should sit with the concerned civil and military stakeholders i.e. judiciary, legal and military minds to work out and bring an ordinance against the economic pirates, their aiders and abetters so the looted wealth could be brought back.
 
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There is a way to bypass lack of 2/3 majority in parliament, that's why I already mentioned the following in my solution:



If you recall CJ SCP Justice Khosa has asked the president of Pak to call such a meeting... but GoP is sleeping...
 
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There is a way to bypass lack of 2/3 majority in parliament, that's why I already mentioned the following in my solution:
Bypass means, leverage to corrupt tola, slogan by so called champion of democracy "democracy khatray mai". Army interference slogan which international media will surely pick & marasimedia will dance around their owners.
 
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Bypass means, leverage to corrupt tola, slogan by so called champion of democracy "democracy khatray mai". Army interference slogan which international media will surely pick & marasimedia will dance around their owners.
Every government has issued ordinances including PMLN during its last tenure. It is a constitutional practice to enact laws quickly in times of need and it is the need of the hour.

Opposition cannot argue much except make useless noise when it is constitutional to issue ordinances. There will be no public support to opposition as the ordinance is clearly to trap filthy rich corrupt and get back looted wealth.

Agreed 100%:
If you recall CJ SCP Justice Khosa has asked the president of Pak to call such a meeting... but GoP is sleeping...
 
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@Shane @shahbaz baig @Mangus Ortus Novem @Reddington @ps3linux Thanx for your valuable inputs see there is way only required will.Its harsh but does not whenever Army takeover country they find loop holes and excuse so why not this time for betterment of country ?if such situation continues they are going to face too and giving today's again bail to Hamza Shehbaz they should realize parliament totally got corrupt,bureaucracy is following old masters(more suitable to them and courts become impotent too day by day.Today's bail again given by Malik Shehzad no surprises there everyone knows the history background and appointment of sardar shamin and malik shehzad and predicted it .You are right why they would want want to return money ?Sir trust me they are not as strong as seems just put them in jail like ordinary prisoner you will hear their screams but getting just NS and AAZ and giving chance for MAryam and Bilawal to claim innocence after few years and returning in politics?would be half job done. Now lets talk about figures(all in dollar)
1)NS expected to return 8 billion,and those 28 PMLN clowns who booked under different cases expected to recover 3.5 Billions dollars from them(dont know about bureaucracy cases )
2)Asif Ali Zardari is expected to return around 11 billion and there are over 168 PPP clowns supposed to return upward of 4 billion(again no figure about bureaucrats seems they protecting themselves well with help of their fellow officers)
What would be the impact of getting money from them ???You can ask the foreign Pakistanis and they will trust u after seeing the result "Yes they are doing something ""and u can expand your tax base too.how??People all discussed we got one of lowest tax base but rarely see one reason mention deficit of trust am i right @ps3linux how much it matters??There is very big large tax evaders not saying for all but many got reason why would we pay tax when we got nothing in return in form of utility services ,govt help,favorable loan facility for business activity and those money looted by so called elite of country first getting undeservedly than later righting it off few years back reading the list of those who right off loans around 402 billion rupees there was very very few names of business men but mostly politicians,beau crates also some from Army and their relatives.Closed the loop holes of evading taxes,give them facilities its going to expand surely when people in return getting the benefits in last amnesty scheme just one party declared over 165 billion rupees if we get just 10 of this sort u can imagine who much more business activity in country .Time is slipping so fast from hands of Pakistan and Army its time to act only way to act completely and throughly otherwise no benefits it will be useless practice just to show people we are doing something by doing some showing acts not the real work
 
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@Shane @shahbaz baig @Mangus Ortus Novem @Reddington @ps3linux Thanx for your valuable inputs see there is way only required will.Its harsh but does not whenever Army takeover country they find loop holes and excuse so why not this time for betterment of country ?if such situation continues they are going to face too and giving today's again bail to Hamza Shehbaz they should realize parliament totally got corrupt,bureaucracy is following old masters(more suitable to them and courts become impotent too day by day.Today's bail again given by Malik Shehzad no surprises there everyone knows the history background and appointment of sardar shamin and malik shehzad and predicted it .You are right why they would want want to return money ?Sir trust me they are not as strong as seems just put them in jail like ordinary prisoner you will hear their screams but getting just NS and AAZ and giving chance for MAryam and Bilawal to claim innocence after few years and returning in politics?would be half job done. Now lets talk about figures(all in dollar)
1)NS expected to return 8 billion,and those 28 PMLN clowns who booked under different cases expected to recover 3.5 Billions dollars from them(dont know about bureaucracy cases )
2)Asif Ali Zardari is expected to return around 11 billion and there are over 168 PPP clowns supposed to return upward of 4 billion(again no figure about bureaucrats seems they protecting themselves well with help of their fellow officers)
What would be the impact of getting money from them ???You can ask the foreign Pakistanis and they will trust u after seeing the result "Yes they are doing something ""and u can expand your tax base too.how??People all discussed we got one of lowest tax base but rarely see one reason mention deficit of trust am i right @ps3linux how much it matters??There is very big large tax evaders not saying for all but many got reason why would we pay tax when we got nothing in return in form of utility services ,govt help,favorable loan facility for business activity and those money looted by so called elite of country first getting undeservedly than later righting it off few years back reading the list of those who right off loans around 402 billion rupees there was very very few names of business men but mostly politicians,beau crates also some from Army and their relatives.Closed the loop holes of evading taxes,give them facilities its going to expand surely when people in return getting the benefits in last amnesty scheme just one party declared over 165 billion rupees if we get just 10 of this sort u can imagine who much more business activity in country .Time is slipping so fast from hands of Pakistan and Army its time to act only way to act completely and throughly otherwise no benefits it will be useless practice just to show people we are doing something by doing some showing acts not the real work



My very dear Pak,

Let us build a perspective before we jumb into solutions...this to avoid reactive nature of our society.

Where do our PNS, PAF, PA and Security Services people come from?

Are the Paks just like the rest of 220 millinos of us? Of course, they are.

So, why do they perform the way they do? They do this not in a foreign land. No. They are within Pak boundaries surrouned by the society that we have become... yet they are one of the best in the world. Why?

They do this because they train, live and die in a system based on clear discipline and clinical accountability. Zero class, sect or ethnic difference. All equal before the laws of the system they work in.

True we have made mistakes..but our Armed Services are what they are because of their System.

However, when we look at our civilian system a totally opposite, ugly picture emerges. The conclusion is not that difficult really. Obviously, what I am trying to build here is the FACT that our DNA doesn't limit us in civilian sector...since our Armed Forces have the same DNA.

The fact is that the last 45 years have devasted our state structures...hence, the functionality of state. Why?

Because people don't do their jobs...instead the use their official positions to advance their self interests... obviously, this is because there is no accountability within the instituitions... LaWhore judicial system, LaWhore FIA-FBR-IB- etc. etc.

So what to do now?

20% of peopel/issues create 80% of the problems.... same as positive results.

If we bring back all of our looted money and still have the same system...then NOTHING will change. However, if we could Change the System based on Performace based Democracy...then we shall prosper and pay all our debts within ten years... even if we fail to bring back a single dime from abroad.

Regarding, amounts abroad... $10Bln laundered every years abroad... State Dept. report. That means at least $100bln abroad in last ten years alone... but this process is going on since 93... Now do the numbers...

What is critical is first stopping moneylaundering. Then crush NooraLeague/ZardariLeague/MullahLeague/PTILeague... only those who survive 62/63 should be allowed to contest elections.

We need to build our State. Meaning... build our instituitions who could perform at least 50% of our Armed Forces...

For this all to happen we need IK to send assemblies home...bring in interim setup..2-3 years of clean and overhaul... Then rollout the New System of Performance Based Democracy.

By the way... Noora has about 45 bln...AAZ is not that far behind... and then that Showbaaz..

50 big crooks...squeezed tight...checks signed... and a viola! Pak has no more debt... But the Day After is the Key!!!
 
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@Mangus Ortus Novem , @zulu

I agree with the analysis and suggestions both of you and rest of the contributors are putting in, despite having a positive view on everything in life, despite being optimist about the future of Pakistan I do not find that positive energy these days. To me rectification of any problem starts with the acknowledgement of the that fact "yes there is a problem" and that my friends requires two things an analytical mind and professional competence.

What FATF is asking Pakistan to do, do you think it it is unreasonable, no it is not, due to incompetence of regulators (read bureaucracy), politicians we have reached the end of the road.

Everyone says corruption is wrong, but it comes to ourselves we don't acknowledge this is corruption a street vendor is doing corruption by putting best quality fruit to show and third rated quality to sell, a motorbiker while jumping red light thinks it normal not it is not it is corruption, a whole sale dealer would put colored sawdust in chilli powder and give 100 ruppees of sadqa, I could go on forever.

Like I told my wife long time ago "there is lot of education in pakistan, but there is no grooming, no character development that my dear you will have to take care of" so probably we need to think if we are producing a characterless tribal society (not nation) isn't it time we should start thinking probably we are not producing those mothers who would groom and character build the children. Unfortunately not many recognize and acknowledge this, and I am sure few would jump the gun and challenge my opinion but thats alright.

For the last 1 year and change I know for sure that billions of rupees of individual investors are being destroyed in the stock market, 21 people to be specific are responsible, everyone knows it and yet no one want to meddle in the matters of these big fish. These are Pakistanis whose wealth is being destroyed by these sick bas**** for their own selfish greed. Regulators know it and dont know it, NAB knows it and dont it, Secret agencies know it and dont know it, govt I dont know...
 
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@Mangus Ortus Novem , @zulu

I agree with the analysis and suggestions both of you and rest of the contributors are putting in, despite having a positive view on everything in life, despite being optimist about the future of Pakistan I do not find that positive energy these days. To me rectification of any problem starts with the acknowledgement of the that fact "yes there is a problem" and that my friends requires two things an analytical mind and professional competence.

What FATF is asking Pakistan to do, do you think it it is unreasonable, no it is not, due to incompetence of regulators (read bureaucracy), politicians we have reached the end of the road.

Everyone says corruption is wrong, but it comes to ourselves we don't acknowledge this is corruption a street vendor is doing corruption by putting best quality fruit to show and third rated quality to sell, a motorbiker while jumping red light thinks it normal not it is not it is corruption, a whole sale dealer would put colored sawdust in chilli powder and give 100 ruppees of sadqa, I could go on forever.

Like I told my wife long time ago "there is lot of education in pakistan, but there is no grooming, no character development that my dear you will have to take care of" so probably we need to think if we are producing a characterless tribal society (not nation) isn't it time we should start thinking probably we are not producing those mothers who would groom and character build the children. Unfortunately not many recognize and acknowledge this, and I am sure few would jump the gun and challenge my opinion but thats alright.

For the last 1 year and change I know for sure that billions of rupees of individual investors are being destroyed in the stock market, 21 people to be specific are responsible, everyone knows it and yet no one want to meddle in the matters of these big fish. These are Pakistanis whose wealth is being destroyed by these sick bas**** for their own selfish greed. Regulators know it and dont know it, NAB knows it and dont it, Secret agencies know it and dont know it, govt I dont know...

The term you want is
Paday likhai jahils
They the people even with knowledge and good grooming still are jahil by nature
 
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I salute the courage of the lone Rangers who attempt to rattle this Hornets Nest(defence.pk), knowing the fact very well they are a tiny minority here. They know they are up against a mindset that is well entrenched in our nascent nation since its inception. With the Media,Judges,Guns and Resources at their disposable, it only takes a few dedicated BRAVE HEARTS to break the shackles of this vicious circle/circus. Inshallah one day the truth will prevail and the real forces of EXPLOITATION will meet their end.
 
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Hopefully, they play this song for the Supreme Leader in Jail...

@RIWWIR @Khafee @zulu @Reddington @ps3linux @PakSword @Shane


@Indus Pakistan my friend.. she was like 200 years old when I was a young man... do you know her sect? She was and is the Voice of Pakistan... especially her National Songs!!!!

Very appropriate song for the Supreme Leader. There is another similar song also, sung by her:

"Koi nawaan laara la kay maenu roll ja
Chhothaya way ik chhooth hor bol ja"
 
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