The Future of Air Combat Aerial Warfare Technology that will rule the Sky

[The SC]

DogFights of the Future - Combat for Fifth-Generation Jet Fighter

 

[GiG]

stealth is a myth, its a US trick to force Chines and Russian waste billions of dollars
future wars will be fought without even firing a single bullet in cyber and electronic spectrum
20th century was of air warrior 21st century will be of cyber fighter

 

[zebra7]

stealth is a myth, its a US trick to force Chines and Russian waste billions of dollars
future wars will be fought without even firing a single bullet in cyber and electronic spectrum
20th century was of air warrior 21st century will be of cyber fighter

US trick is F-35, lol they are forcing the whole world to invest in U.S and secretly develop next generation system disguised as F-35, and who knows they are working on 7th Gen.

 

[Ultima Thule]

stealth is a myth, its a US trick to force Chines and Russian waste billions of dollars
future wars will be fought without even firing a single bullet in cyber and electronic spectrum
20th century was of air warrior 21st century will be of cyber fighter

bro than why US developing 6th generation super stealth fighter

 

[GiG]

US trick is F-35, lol they are forcing the whole world to invest in U.S and secretly develop next generation system disguised as F-35, and who knows they are working on 7th Gen.

US Trick is f 18 growler, 70000 hackers in US cyber command ,HARP,Kinetic orbital strike through which they will fight the next war

bro than why US developing 6th generation super stealth fighter

It is because 5th generation stealth fighters dint work as expected ,it is a known fact that low frequency radar can detect stealth fighters Serbs shoots down the f 117 with the this even a b-2 spirit of messieurs is missing after the Yugoslavia war it is believed that it was also shoot down but fell in NATO territory. US is folling its enemies to waste Billions of $ in useless technologies like the strategic defense initiative of Regan administration which folled the soviets to waste billion in space weapons

 

[Ultima Thule]

It is because 5th generation stealth fighters dint work as expected ,it is a known fact that low frequency radar can detect stealth fighters Serbs shoots down the f 117 with the this even a b-2 spirit of messieurs is missing after the Yugoslavia war it is believed that it was also shoot down but fell in NATO territory. US is folling its enemies to waste Billions of $ in useless technologies like the strategic defense initiative of Regan administration which folled the soviets to waste billion in space weapons

F-117 is not 5th generation fighter, but light bomber, than why US spend billions to develop 5th generation fighter like F-22 and F-35

 

[zebra7]

US Trick is f 18 growler, 70000 hackers in US cyber command ,HARP,Kinetic orbital strike through which they will fight the next war

LOL with F-35 a TAMBOORA which U.S is giving to the hands of all its allies, the U.S will have better control, what those allies are doing, on which mission they are going, with live video feed connected with the U.S satellite. And that too, they are paying for it. LOL.

Enemies are worried due to F-35, Allies are worried of F-35 Baki Lage Raho Mamoo.

 

[GiG]

F-117 is not 5th generation fighter, but light bomber, than why US spend billions to develop 5th generation fighter like F-22 and F-35

F-117 is a stealth bomber with fighter designation as said its bomber therefore the developed the fighter think logically

LOL with F-35 a TAMBOORA which U.S is giving to the hands of all its allies, the U.S will have better control, what those allies are doing, on which mission they are going, with live video feed connected with the U.S satellite. And that too, they are paying for it. LOL.

Enemies are worried due to F-35, Allies are worried of F-35 Baki Lage Raho Mamoo.

F 35 is joke everybody knows that

 

[Ultima Thule]

F-117 is a stealth bomber with fighter designation as said its bomber therefore the developed the fighter think logically


F 35 is joke everybody knows that

what logic?
In your personal opinion which wroth nothing

 

[GiG]

what logic?
In your personal opinion which wroth nothing

its a fact and if you don't that then educate yourself

 

[Ultima Thule]

its a fact and if you don't that then educate yourself

your personal liking or disliking worth nothing, every fighter jets in its early days have a lots of problems they discover flaws and than fix it, this method is called TRAIL AND FIX so what is a new joke about F-35?, are you expert on F-35 ?you genius?

 

[Penguin]

It is because 5th generation stealth fighters dint work as expected ,it is a known fact that low frequency radar can detect stealth fighters Serbs shoots down the f 117 with the this even a b-2 spirit of messieurs is missing after the Yugoslavia war it is believed that it was also shoot down but fell in NATO territory. US is folling its enemies to waste Billions of $ in useless technologies like the strategic defense initiative of Regan administration which folled the soviets to waste billion in space weapons

NATO's bombing campaign involved 1,000 aircraft operating from air bases in Italy and Germany, and the aircraft carrier USS Theodore Roosevelt stationed in the Adriatic Sea. A total of 34,000 NATO sorties were flown.

Yugoslav air defenses operators found they could detect F-117s with their obsolete Soviet radars after some modifications. In 2005, Colonel Zoltán Dani confirmed this in an interview, suggesting that those modifications involved using long wavelengths, which allowed them to detect the aircraft when the wheel well or bomb bay doors were open. In addition, the Serbs had also intercepted and deciphered some NATO communications, and thus were able to deploy their anti-air batteries at positions best suited to intercept NATO planes.

On 27 March 1999, the 3rd Battalion of the 250th Air Defence Missile Brigade of the Army of Yugoslavia, under the command of Colonel Dani, downed F-117 Air Force serial number 82-0806, callsign "Vega 31". The 250th Air Defence Missile Brigade also shot down a USAF F-16 fighter on 2 May 1999. On the same day an A-10 Thunderbolt II was heavily damaged by Strela 2 shoulder-mounted SAM over Kosovo and had to make an emergency landing in Skopje. These F-117 amd the F16 were the only two successes out of the dozens of ground-to-air missiles fired during the conflict.

Not all of these ground to air missile engagement went correctly. One Serb Mig 29 had been hit on march 25 by an 2K12 Kub in a friendly fire incident. It is possible that the 311. Self-Propelled Air Defence Missile Regiment, equipped with SA-6s and deployed in the area where his aircraft was hit, was responsible

As for the F117, at about 8:15 pm local time [on 27 March 1999], with a range of about 8 miles (13 km) several missiles were launched. According to Sergeant Dragan Matić, who was identified in 2009 as the soldier who fired the missiles, they detected the F-117 at a range of about 50 to 60 kilometres (31 to 37 mi), operating their equipment for no more than 17 seconds to avoid being locked on to by NATO anti-air suppression. According to Dani in a 2007 interview, his troops spotted the aircraft on radar when its bomb-bay doors opened, raising its radar signature. Still, the only reason they could get this lock was because of other information that was available and that allowed them to essentially ambush the attacking force.

The B-2's combat debut was in 1999, during the Kosovo War. It was responsible for destroying 33% of selected Serbian bombing targets in the first eight weeks of U.S. involvement in the War. Although the bombers accounted 50 sorties out of a total of 34,000 NATO sorties (0.15%), they dropped 11 percent of all bombs.

even a b-2 spirit of messieurs is missing after the Yugoslavia war it is believed that it was also shoot down but fell in NATO territory. US is folling its enemies to waste Billions of $ in useless technologies like the strategic defense initiative of Regan administration which folled the soviets to waste billion in space weapons

And despite the fact that simple folks like us can see this (and can learn the same info e.g. on the B2), the US enemies are falling for it

https://defence.pk/threads/china-ma...-which-is-called-the-xian-h-20-bomber.447728/

 

[Norge Stronk]

even a b-2 spirit of messieurs is missing after the Yugoslavia war it is believed that it was also shoot down but fell in NATO territory.

What?

As of 2016 the only B-2 loss was AV-12, which crashed at Andersen Air Force Base in Guam... the other side of the world and 9 years after an F-117A was downed near Serbia.

 

[Penguin]

F-117 is not 5th generation fighter, but light bomber, than why US spend billions to develop 5th generation fighter like F-22 and F-35

Isn't the F117 about the the size of an F-15 Eagle?

F117

• Length: 65 ft 11 in (20.09 m)
• Wingspan: 43 ft 4 in (13.20 m)
• Height: 12 ft 9.5 in (3.78 m)
• Wing area: 780 ft² (73 m²)
• Empty weight: 29,500 lb (13,380 kg)
• Loaded weight: 52,500 lb (23,800 kg)
• Hardpoints: 2 × internal weapons bays with one hardpoint each (total of two weapons), equipped to carry up to 2,115 pounds (959 kg) each

F15C

• Length: 63 ft 9 in (19.43 m)
• Wingspan: 42 ft 10 in (13.05 m)
• Height: 18 ft 6 in (5.63 m)
• Wing area: 608 ft² (56.5 m²)
• Empty weight: 28,000 lb (12,700 kg)
• Loaded weight: 44,500 lb (20,200 kg)
• Hardpoints Total 11 (not including CFTs): two under-wing (each with additional two missile launch rails), four under-fuselage (for semi-recessed carriage of AIM-7 Sparrows) and a single centerline pylon station, optional fuselage pylons (which may include conformal fuel tanks, known initially as Fuel And Sensor Tactical (FAST) pack for use on the C model) with a capacity of 16,000 lb (7,300 kg)

F15E

• Length: 63.8 ft (19.43 m)
• Wingspan: 42.8 ft (13.05 m)
• Height: 18.5 ft (5.63 m)
• Wing area: 608 ft² (56.5 m²)
• Empty weight: 31,700 lb (14,300 kg)
• Haedpoints:2 wing pylons, fuselage pylons, bomb racks on CFTs with a capacity of 23,000 lb (10,400 kg) of external fuel and ordnance

 

[GiG]

NATO's bombing campaign involved 1,000 aircraft operating from air bases in Italy and Germany, and the aircraft carrier USS Theodore Roosevelt stationed in the Adriatic Sea. A total of 34,000 NATO sorties were flown.

Yugoslav air defenses operators found they could detect F-117s with their obsolete Soviet radars after some modifications. In 2005, Colonel Zoltán Dani confirmed this in an interview, suggesting that those modifications involved using long wavelengths, which allowed them to detect the aircraft when the wheel well or bomb bay doors were open. In addition, the Serbs had also intercepted and deciphered some NATO communications, and thus were able to deploy their anti-air batteries at positions best suited to intercept NATO planes.

On 27 March 1999, the 3rd Battalion of the 250th Air Defence Missile Brigade of the Army of Yugoslavia, under the command of Colonel Dani, downed F-117 Air Force serial number 82-0806, callsign "Vega 31". The 250th Air Defence Missile Brigade also shot down a USAF F-16 fighter on 2 May 1999. On the same day an A-10 Thunderbolt II was heavily damaged by Strela 2 shoulder-mounted SAM over Kosovo and had to make an emergency landing in Skopje. These F-117 amd the F16 were the only two successes out of the dozens of ground-to-air missiles fired during the conflict.

Not all of these ground to air missile engagement went correctly. One Serb Mig 29 had been hit on march 25 by an 2K12 Kub in a friendly fire incident. It is possible that the 311. Self-Propelled Air Defence Missile Regiment, equipped with SA-6s and deployed in the area where his aircraft was hit, was responsible

As for the F117, at about 8:15 pm local time [on 27 March 1999], with a range of about 8 miles (13 km) several missiles were launched. According to Sergeant Dragan Matić, who was identified in 2009 as the soldier who fired the missiles, they detected the F-117 at a range of about 50 to 60 kilometres (31 to 37 mi), operating their equipment for no more than 17 seconds to avoid being locked on to by NATO anti-air suppression. According to Dani in a 2007 interview, his troops spotted the aircraft on radar when its bomb-bay doors opened, raising its radar signature. Still, the only reason they could get this lock was because of other information that was available and that allowed them to essentially ambush the attacking force.

The B-2's combat debut was in 1999, during the Kosovo War. It was responsible for destroying 33% of selected Serbian bombing targets in the first eight weeks of U.S. involvement in the War. Although the bombers accounted 50 sorties out of a total of 34,000 NATO sorties (0.15%), they dropped 11 percent of all bombs.


And despite the fact that simple folks like us can see this (and can learn the same info e.g. on the B2), the US enemies are falling for it

https://defence.pk/threads/china-ma...-which-is-called-the-xian-h-20-bomber.447728/

Explained very well

your personal liking or disliking worth nothing, every fighter jets in its early days have a lots of problems they discover flaws and than fix it, this method is called TRAIL AND FIX so what is a new joke about F-35?, are you expert on F-35 ?you genius?

Some good material to study!

What?

As of 2016 the only B-2 loss was AV-12, which crashed at Andersen Air Force Base in Guam... the other side of the world and 9 years after an F-117A was downed near Serbia.

Serial numbers of B2s always begin with AV. Spirit of Missouri was AV-8 88-0329. And no, it is not about F-117. B-2 that crashed in Bosnia 15 km from the Serbian border.
Claims from retired general Bozidar Delic:"One American B-2A Spirit strategic stealth bomber (probably AV-8 88-0329 "Spirit of Missouri") was shot down on the 20th of May 1999 over Surcin at 01:00 local time. The formation was detected by long-wave early-warning radars.
The bombers reduced altitude and attacked its targets in Belgrade. One of the B-2As was hit by a SAM in the area of the cockpit and crashed shortly after. Crew was killed in the crash according to eyewitnesses.