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Stealth is about RCS vs Radar:

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just his personal opinion, he is not behind the development of F-35:lol::rofl: kid this place is not for yours go play your toys:partay::shout::man_in_love:
Kido the man is behind the F-16 go fanboy enjoy the ride on f-35 as you cant understand expert opinon
From your alledged quote of the Foreign Military review.


The point is that a particular B-2A was claimed to have been shot down. And this claim doesn't hold.


Why would the US do so? What would it stand to gain?

What do you think this costs? Flying the B-2 fleet for an hour would cost 2.5 million USD
"The B-2 may cost up to $135,000 per flight hour to operate in 2010, which is about twice that of the B-52 and B-1"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northrop_Grumman_B-2_Spirit#Program_costs_and_procurement


Why do you expect US to behave like Pakistan or India?
Do give some ref so I can verify this claim.


Whatever.


I never said these were not important or that stealth was more important. But you are saying it - stealth - is unimportant and that simply is not true.


You take a remark I make in the context of discussing the developments in the Dutch F-16 fleet and pretend I suggest this is the exactly same for the US B-2 fleet, which I didn't. Clearly, the importance of the asset differs, hence the funding realities, which eliminated the issue of spare parts use. Resale obvisously was never an issue. Force reductions were suffered in advance rather than in service (the planned AV-22 through AV-165 were cancelled)
But, as the B-2 crash at Guam shows, even the B-2 suffers from peacetime attrition.


No one discussed NORWEGIAN F16s.

In post #19 you stated:
This was the Russian foreign military review of the situation
"The Foreign Military Review writes: "Despite the fact that American aircraft dominated NATO operations, they weren't the only aircraft shot down by Yugoslav air defenses. Among the destroyed aircraft were five German "Tornadoes," several British "Harriers'" two French "Mirages," Belgian, Dutch, and Canadian aircraft. On June 7 the USAF lost a B-52 strategic bomber, while on May 20 a B-2A "Spirit" was shot down."
Source:http://www.truthinmedia.org/Bulletins2000/tim2000-5-1.html

The only aircraft the DUTCH sent were F-16s (since this is our only fast combat jet). You placed a quote claiming Dutch aircraft were lost > they weren't.
You demand a fly by > not possible for said reasons > unreasonable demand
Showing All The B-2 at the same time is quite reasonable to dust the claims of Serbs and cost is not an issue for US
Showing military hardware after the war is a common practice around the world to bust enemies claims
For stealth i am quoting same words its a scam
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskEnginee...irst_thing_to_know_about_stealth_is_that_its/
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2013/09/the_problem_with_stealth.html

And i admit i forgot dutch=Norway :undecided: so much confusion on name
Fur Dutch Losses Here is the source:http://www.encyclopediasupreme.org/Natodown.html
06.04. 2:30 Aleksinac Dutch F-16

27.03. before morning Ion sea According to Greek military sources, there were three registered "MAYDAY" messages. One from Dutch F-16, one from American F-15 and a third from one French aircraft (probably Mirage 2000)
 
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Showing All The B-2 at the same time is quite reasonable to dust the claims of Serbs
Who cares about the claims of the Serbs, or the Russians for that matter. They have a clear interest inflating their numbers.

and cost is not an issue for US
Clearly, you don't follow the budgetting process.

Showing military hardware after the war is a common practice around the world to bust enemies claims
Oh, really? What examples? When?

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2013/09/the_problem_with_stealth.html
Your first ref - a discussion forum - actually confirms the effectiveness in terms of what it was designed for.
Your second ref does not discuss the qualities of stealth, it discusses the trade-offs made in the design of the F-35.
Neither supports you assertion that stealth is a scam.
Clearly, if you don't get it, you don't get it.

And i admit i forgot dutch=Norway :undecided: so much confusion on name
Dutch > The Netherlands.

Europe. Norway is the blue country at the top.
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Netherlands: see arrow.
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http://www.encyclopediasupreme.org/Natodown.html

http://www.encyclopediasupreme.org/ is a credible source?

http://www.encyclopediasupreme.org/Index.html really?

:rolleyes:

06.04. 2:30 Aleksinac Dutch F-16
That is a claim, who is the claimant and what is the source/evidence substantiating the claim?

27.03. before morning Ion sea According to Greek military sources, there were three registered "MAYDAY" messages. One from Dutch F-16, one from American F-15 and a third from one French aircraft (probably Mirage 2000)
That is a claim. What Greek military sources, specifically? As is, this is just 'hear say' at best.
 
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Kido the man is behind the F-16 go fanboy enjoy the ride on f-35 as you cant understand expert opinon

Showing All The B-2 at the same time is quite reasonable to dust the claims of Serbs and cost is not an issue for US
Showing military hardware after the war is a common practice around the world to bust enemies claims
For stealth i am quoting same words its a scam
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskEnginee...irst_thing_to_know_about_stealth_is_that_its/
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2013/09/the_problem_with_stealth.html

And i admit i forgot dutch=Norway :undecided: so much confusion on name
Fur Dutch Losses Here is the source:http://www.encyclopediasupreme.org/Natodown.html
06.04. 2:30 Aleksinac Dutch F-16

27.03. before morning Ion sea According to Greek military sources, there were three registered "MAYDAY" messages. One from Dutch F-16, one from American F-15 and a third from one French aircraft (probably Mirage 2000)
i just to said that you are:sarcastic:Ok kid i admit that F-35 is JUNK FIGHTER now happy:p: now tell me one thing why USA spends billons of $$ on F-22 and F-35? and planning to induct 6th generations jets Cyber spying is not a jack of all trades, you have think a broad ways to hide the jets from Enemy.
 
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US trick is F-35, lol they are forcing the whole world to invest in U.S and secretly develop next generation system disguised as F-35, and who knows they are working on 7th Gen.
This is another hoax.
 
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This is another hoax.

No its not. See U.S is developing a plane called F35, no rather it is developing thousands of technology, and it cut short the cost of doing so, by creating the need of the stealth in the world. Advertizing that F35 is the only solution for the russian s300 and the future of the aerial conflict, now its allies are forced to buy f35 instead of F16s and F15s or doing upgrade. But did US giving any technologies to anyone, even to its allies NO. And with the F35, those allies are linking themself and giving the full real time report to the U.S server, from where the U.S could download all the flight data, mission profile, and the waypoints etc.
 
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