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Germany is on the brink of collapse and cant even form a government because migrants. The German citizens demand a border lock down which is done now. France? French president Macron allows no Migrants in anymore and pushs for hard deportations. Trump? Dont want migrants from "shithole countries", as he said in his usual kindness. Australia? Allows zero Migrants from 3rd world in and deports them in concentration camps on Papua Newguinea.

As for the rest, where do you see anyone laugh about our debt? The EU nations are scared, we laugh. In the end they will pay it and thats it.

http://www.fashiondays.com/the-daily-issue/the-big-four-fashion-capitals-of-the-world/

There are quite a few cities which could make a great influence on the world of fashion but if we’re talking about the most important fashion capitals there are four which undeniably rule all: the Big Four of fashion. London, Paris, Milan and New York.

Look dude we can argue all we want. Nothing changes the fact that Italy is on the top of teh world. We stand for style, art and luxury.

The beautiful things of life.

USA is growing between 2-3 % , Germany 2 % , Australia 2.8 all countries with significant migrant population but growing at much faster rate than italy. You know why because all these countries attract the best of talents from around the world. They have an atmosphere where you can thrive and maximize your potential. They have low unemployment rates hence attract so many talented people. Italy in its current state is struggling to provide for its own people with unemployment rate touching 12-14 % let alone migrants. I cant think any talented migrant wanting to migrate to Italy right now.

Italy is a beautiful country though I will give you that.
 
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USA is growing between 2-3 % , Germany 2 % , Australia 2.8 all countries with significant migrant population but growing at much faster rate than italy. You know why because all these countries attract the best of talents from around the world. They have an atmosphere where you can thrive and maximize your potential. They have low unemployment rates hence attract so many talented people. Italy in its current state is struggling to provide for its own people with unemployment rate touching 12-14 % let alone migrants. I cant think any talented migrant wanting to migrate to Italy right now.

Italy is a beautiful country though I will give you that.


ha ha ha

yeah sure you say subsaharan migrants are the best of the best. Oh what do we lose by keeping them out :(

So sad :( :(

Sorry but i must bust your bubble. 84% of migrants in Germany live on welfare and contribute nothing to society and never will. Same counts for Australia. Thats why both nations stopped migration from 3rd world countries.

Did you ever visit Germany? There is no atmosphere where talents can thrieve. I studied in Germany and hated evry day. The country is grey and depressing in evry aspect.

That said, an unemployed Italian gets more welfare money than an hardworking Iranian earns.
 
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ha ha ha

yeah sure you say subsaharan migrants are the best of the best. Oh what do we lose by keeping them out :(

So sad :( :(

Sorry but i must bust your bubble. 84% of migrants in Germany live on welfare and contribute nothing to society and never will. Same counts for Australia. Thats why both nations stopped migration from 3rd world countries.

Did you ever visit Germany? There is no atmosphere where talents can thrieve. I studied in Germany and hated evry day. The country is grey and depressing in evry aspect.

That said, an unemployed Italian gets more welfare money than an hardworking Iranian earns.

Don't embarrass yourself by comparing Germany and Italy. The difference is daylights in almost every category possible. Well if you are a boring person you won't enjoy even in Newyork or London. Germany has stopped taking in refugees, not migrants. Learn the difference first. Same goes for Australia and Canada. Every year thousands of migrants acquire the aforementioned nationalities with ease. It's just that no talented migrant will want to go to Italy in the current state.Maybe you hated Germany because you were used to the lazy Inefficient Italian routine. In Germany, BS doesn't work you have to do things on time.
 
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If the object of Hon Valerio Aurelius post was to prove that Italy is far richer country that Iran or Turkey; we accept this as a fact.

Italy is a fully developed economy specializing in the high value added products such as metals and metal products, clothing and footwear, motor vehicle including luxury vehicles, motorcycles and scooters it is therefore unfair to compare her with a developing country such ad Iran or a semi-developed country like Turkey.

However one must bear in mind that criterion by which wealth of a nation or an individual is determined has changed over the years. Anyone who has read the ‘History of Economic thought’ will know that during the 16th & 17th centuries Mercantilism was in vogue. Mercantilists believed that total wealth of the world was finite and one nation can only accumulate wealth at the expense of other nations. Thus one should export more and import less and the wealth of a country could best be judged by the amount of Gold /precious metal it possessed. Then came the Physiocrats led by Quesnay; who incidentally was a physician; these people believed that wealth of nations was derived solely from the value of agriculture produce.

Without delving into Adam Smith, Ricardo and Milton Keynes etc, let me jump to Simon Kuznets, son of Russian Jew émigré to the US, who came up with the idea of GDP & GNP in the aftermath of the US great depression in 1937. Now everyone uses this criterion to identify wealth of the nations.

In my humble opinion most important resource of any country is her “Human Resource” meaning quality of manpower. About 40 years ago a Pakistani economist Dr Mahbubul Haq came up with the idea of Human Development ( HDI) as a better measure of a country’s stage of development rather than rather than total GDP or GDP per capita

The Human Development Index (HDI) is a composite statistic (composite index) of life expectancy, education, and per capita income indicators, which are used to rank countries into four tiers of human development.

Human Development Index (HDI)
The composite index is measuring the average achievement of a country in three basic dimensions of human development:

  • a long and healthy life
  • knowledge
  • a decent standard of living
Life Expectancy Index
The number of years you may live under normal conditions in a particular country.
Life expectancy at birth
Number of years a new-born infant could expect to live if prevailing patterns of age-specific mortality rates at the time of birth stay the same throughout the infant's life.

Education Index
Education is a major component of well-being; it is a key factor determining whether a country is a developed, developing, or underdeveloped nation.
1. Mean years of schooling
Average number of years of education received by people ages 25 and older, converted from education attainment levels using official durations of each level.

2. Expected years of schooling
Number of years of schooling that a child of school entrance age can expect to receive if prevailing patterns of age-specific enrolment rates persist throughout the child's life.

Income Index
It reflects the average income of a country’s citizens.
Gross national income (GNI) per capita
The total income of a country's economy generated by its production and its ownership of factors of production, less the incomes paid for the use of factors of production owned by the rest of the world, converted to international dollars using purchasing power parity (PPP) rates, divided by midyear population.

GNI per capita rank minus HDI rank
Difference in rankings by GNI per capita and by the HDI. A negative value means that the country is better ranked by its GNI than by its HDI.

For example per capita GDP of Qatar is $125K but Qatar is 37th and Italy with $30K GDP per capita is 26th.
Full list is here.
http://www.nationsonline.org/oneworld/human_development.htm
 
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Don't embarrass yourself by comparing Germany and Italy. The difference is daylights in almost every category possible. Well if you are a boring person you won't enjoy even in Newyork or London. Germany has stopped taking in refugees, not migrants. Learn the difference first. Same goes for Australia and Canada. Every year thousands of migrants acquire the aforementioned nationalities with ease. It's just that no talented migrant will want to go to Italy in the current state.Maybe you hated Germany because you were used to the lazy Inefficient Italian routine. In Germany, BS doesn't work you have to do things on time.


They were no "refugees". When you cross dozens of countries to optimize your asylum, then you are simply an illegal migrant.

As for Germany...Italy gets almost three times more visitors than Germany. That shows what is the more popular country. The difference is, Germany is led by an old Merkel who has zero charisma and repersents absolute weakness. Germany has potential when they get rid of her.

As for lazy italian routine, you never were in Germany right? Their offices are slow and ineeficient. They cant even build an airport anymore.

Their Berlin Airport is 7 years late now, was scheduled for 2012 and now is scheduled to open 2021 and costs 6 billion € more.

I hated Germany because it was grey, ugly, not inspirational and cold.
 
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For example per capita GDP of Qatar is $125K but Qatar is 37th and Italy with $30K GDP per capita is 26th.
Full list is here.
http://www.nationsonline.org/oneworld/human_development.htm

Qatar is around $65k not $125k

They were no "refugees". When you cross dozens of countries to optimize your asylum, then you are simply an illegal migrant.

As for Germany...Italy gets almost three times more visitors than Germany. That shows what is the more popular country. The difference is, Germany is led by an old Merkel who has zero charisma and repersents absolute weakness. Germany has potential when they get rid of her.

As for lazy italian routine, you never were in Germany right? Their offices are slow and ineeficient. They cant even build an airport anymore.

Their Berlin Airport is 7 years late now, was scheduled for 2012 and now is scheduled to open 2021 and costs 6 billion € more.

I hated Germany because it was grey, ugly, not inspirational and cold.

How cute here is a guy comparing Germany and Italy. What a joke:lol: .

Germany GDP per capita $50K , Italy $35K

Germany's HDI 4th, Italy 26th.

Most Productive countries

http://time.com/4621185/worker-productivity-countries/

Germany 8th, Italy 16th

Germany's Exports total $1.4 trillion vs Italy's $430 Billion.

https://www.thelocal.de/20140220/german-cities-offer-best-quality-of-life

Majority of the best cities to live in the world are in Germany. The Day Italy has cities as good as Berlin , Frankfurt, Munich, Hamburg, Duesseldorf do tag me. Or maybe you didn't like Germany because Italy looked third world in comparison? I can do more comparisons if you want and Italy wont come anywhere near.
 
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Qatar is around $65k not $125k



How cute here is a guy comparing Germany and Italy. What a joke:lol: .

Germany GDP per capita $50K , Italy $35K

Germany's HDI 4th, Italy 26th.

Most Productive countries

http://time.com/4621185/worker-productivity-countries/

Germany 8th, Italy 16th

Germany's Exports total $1.4 trillion vs Italy's $430 Billion.

https://www.thelocal.de/20140220/german-cities-offer-best-quality-of-life

Majority of the best cities to live in the world are in Germany. The Day Italy has cities as good as Berlin , Frankfurt, Munich, Hamburg, Duesseldorf do tag me. Or maybe you didn't like Germany because Italy looked third world in comparison? I can do more comparisons if you want and Italy wont come anywhere near.


Berlin is a shithole and a failed state

https://juergenfritz.com/2017/12/03/failed-state-berlin/

no functional fire fighters, no police, gargantuan crime levels and rotten infrastructure

Frankfurt? Did you ever visit Frankfurt? Dirty, shabby and also rotten to teh core, not as bad as Berlin though.

Munich and Dusseldorf are ok though.

In Italy you have beauty. in Germany you have nothing. The cities were bombed down and they rebuild it with soulless trash.

Germany has no city in the same league as Milano or Firenze. Germany lacks style, art and life style. They are working drones and not even that anymore.

https://www.thelocal.de/20171216/chaos-plagued-berlin-airport-wont-open-before-2020

The fun fact is, Germans work but earn bad. They pay welfare for migrants. Because of that they have no savings while Italians lead in property
 
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Berlin is a shithole and a failed state

https://juergenfritz.com/2017/12/03/failed-state-berlin/

no functional fire fighters, no police, gargantuan crime levels and rotten infrastructure

Frankfurt? Did you ever visit Frankfurt? Dirty, shabby and also rotten to teh core, not as bad as Berlin though.

Munich and Dusseldorf are ok though.

In Italy you have beauty. in Germany you have nothing. The cities were bombed down and they rebuild it with soulless trash.

Germany has no city in the same league as Milano or Firenze. Germany lacks style, art and life style. They are working drones and not even that anymore.

https://www.thelocal.de/20171216/chaos-plagued-berlin-airport-wont-open-before-2020

The fun fact is, Germans work but earn bad. They pay welfare for migrants. Because of that they have no savings while Italians lead in property

You are arguing against facts and figures. Italy would be better off being compared to Spain or Greece.
 
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You are arguing against facts and figures. Italy would be better off being compared to Spain or Greece.


Do you ignore the article from the German "Welt" hich calls Berlin a failed state?

Did you ever visit Berlin? Germany is not even able to build an airport.

Also you miss one thing. Germans lack evry form of art or style. They have no Milano or Venice or Roma.

They walk around in cheap clothes and dont have any style. Did you ever visit our Amalfi region or saw what our cities look like?

Here evrything is style and art. Italy has beauty in its DNA. Germany doesnt has that. Never had, never will.

As for trains, their ICE is crap as well. Dirty train stations, slow trains and bad service and not as good as our Italo.

Another factor is that german food is basicly dog food.

Spain and Greece dont have world leading defense corporations like Italy has. Spain and Greece also have no industrial and cultural power house like Milano.
 
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Do you ignore the article from the German "Welt" hich calls Berlin a failed state?

Did you ever visit Berlin? Germany is not even able to build an airport.

Also you miss one thing. Germans lack evry form of art or style. They have no Milano or Venice or Roma.

They walk around in cheap clothes and dont have any style. Did you ever visit our Amalfi region or saw what our cities look like?

Here evrything is style and art. Italy has beauty in its DNA. Germany doesnt has that. Never had, never will.

As for trains, their ICE is crap as well. Dirty train stations, slow trains and bad service and not as good as our Italo.

Another factor is that german food is basicly dog food.

Spain and Greece dont have world leading defense corporations like Italy has. Spain and Greece also have no industrial and cultural power house like Milano.

I will say it again don't embarrass yourself by comparing yourself with Germany. Germany is the envy of many around the world of what a country should be like. Airports?

https://www.internationalairportreview.com/news/22466/munich-airport-named-best-airport-europe/


NEWS
Munich Airport named best airport in Europe
Munich Airport has been named Europe’s Best Airport at the Skytrax World Airport Awards at the Passenger Terminal EXPO in Cologne, Germany.

Munich-Airport-named-best-airport-in-Europe.jpg



Munich Airport has, for the ninth time in 11 years, been named Europe’s Best Airport at the 2016 World Airport Awards. Munich Airport also received the Best Airport in Central Europe accolade.

They are lucky not to have Rome or Milan. They have better. Frankfurt is the financial center of Europe after London. Munich, Hamburg, and almost all their cities are much better to live. I don't have to give you Quality of life rankings again, do I? Some of the most beautiful towns in Europe are in Germany Heidelberg, Nuremberg, Lindau, Baden Baden, Rothenberg. Some of the most beautiful mountain scenery in Europe is in Berchtesgaden land.

Italian DNA? Italian DNA is inefficiency, laziness, corruption and being the laughing stock of Europe.

https://www.weforum.org/reports/the-global-competitiveness-report-2017-2018

Do the comparison here of how Italian Institutions or Infrastructure ranks against Germany. You are avoiding statistics altogether because you know Italy will get crushed in 99 % of them. The German Efficiency is a thing around the world.

https://www.blinkist.com/magazine/posts/the-secrets-to-german-efficiency
 
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Do you ignore the article from the German "Welt" hich calls Berlin a failed state?

Did you ever visit Berlin? Germany is not even able to build an airport.

Also you miss one thing. Germans lack evry form of art or style. They have no Milano or Venice or Roma.

They walk around in cheap clothes and dont have any style. Did you ever visit our Amalfi region or saw what our cities look like?

Here evrything is style and art. Italy has beauty in its DNA. Germany doesnt has that. Never had, never will.

As for trains, their ICE is crap as well. Dirty train stations, slow trains and bad service and not as good as our Italo.

Another factor is that german food is basicly dog food.

Spain and Greece dont have world leading defense corporations like Italy has. Spain and Greece also have no industrial and cultural power house like Milano.
I'm afraid @Georg would disagree with you
 
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I will say it again don't embarrass yourself by comparing yourself with Germany. Germany is the envy of many around the world of what a country should be like. Airports?

https://www.internationalairportreview.com/news/22466/munich-airport-named-best-airport-europe/

NEWS
Munich Airport named best airport in Europe
Munich Airport has been named Europe’s Best Airport at the Skytrax World Airport Awards at the Passenger Terminal EXPO in Cologne, Germany.

Munich-Airport-named-best-airport-in-Europe.jpg



Munich Airport has, for the ninth time in 11 years, been named Europe’s Best Airport at the 2016 World Airport Awards. Munich Airport also received the Best Airport in Central Europe accolade.

They are lucky not to have Rome or Milan. They have better. Frankfurt is the financial center of Europe after London. Munich, Hamburg, and almost all their cities are much better to live. I don't have to give you Quality of life rankings again, do I? Some of the most beautiful towns in Europe are in Germany Heidelberg, Nuremberg, Lindau, Baden Baden, Rothenberg. Some of the most beautiful mountain scenery in Europe is in Berchtesgaden land.

Italian DNA? Italian DNA is inefficiency, laziness, corruption and being the laughing stock of Europe.

https://www.weforum.org/reports/the-global-competitiveness-report-2017-2018

Do the comparison here of how Italian Institutions or Infrastructure ranks against Germany. You are avoiding statistics altogether because you know Italy will get crushed in 99 % of them. The German Efficiency is a thing around the world.

https://www.blinkist.com/magazine/posts/the-secrets-to-german-efficiency

You are a joke sorry but i must laugh. :D

None of the cities you mentioned reach the beauty of italian cities also we have betetr mountains sceneray and higher mountains as well.
 
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You are a joke sorry but i must laugh. :D

None of the cities you mentioned reach the beauty of italian cities also we have betetr mountains sceneray and higher mountains as well.

Here is another post totally ignoring statistics and going for semantics. Grasping at straws now?
 
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