The Emerging Military Balance in East Asia: How China’s Neighbors Can Check Chinese Naval Expansion

[gambit]

Of course a self conceited person do not think much of others.
The death of Wang Yue reveal to the Chinese the need for a Good Samaritan law or its equivalent.
She is unfortunate that the Chinese are more or less affected by the Xu Shoulan vs Peng Yu case where Peng Yu was sued for helping the victim, Xu Shoulan.

I have low opinion of you because time and time again you spout nonsense to support your point.
Gun freedom which you boast about is not common in the world, much less gun shooting massacres.
Whereas indifferent passer-by who refuse to help a victim is common.

Ever read the case of Kitty Genovese ?
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-38-witnesses-in-queens-in-1964-a7118876.html
Kitty Genovese murder: The real story of the woman killed 'in front of 38 witnesses' in Queens in 1964
The 1964 murder of Kitty Genovese – and how no one came to her aid - became an American legend.
HaHa, Professional ???
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Then essentially, we are the same. You are no better than Americans. And we are no better than you.

But then when it comes to debating issues, it is impossible for you kind to remain on topic. This is a military oriented forum, which actually the few American veterans on this forum unique, which you do not like. We are more experienced than you, most likely older than you, and probably more educated in life than you. Which is why no matter what, eventually you will always resorts to personal attacks. You think we American veterans on this forum gives a shit on what an ignoramus from pissant country on the other side of the world thinks of us and our country ?

When it comes to China, you turned into a low level troll in a snap, every time!

Is that a 'Thank' bait post ?

 

[sinait]

We are more experienced than you, most likely older than you, and probably more educated in life than you. Which is why no matter what, eventually you will always resorts to personal attacks. You think we American veterans on this forum gives a shit on what an ignoramus from pissant country on the other side of the world thinks of us and our country ?

Straight from the horse mouth.
Traits of a self conceited person.
All you have said are nothing but personal attacks based on your bias without basis.
But then members would expect more substance from you, being a PROFESSIONAL.

You chose to brag while I prefer to maintain privacy about my military experience but suffice to say my whole family except one is in the military with one retiring just recently.
You older than me ?
Not sure about that and my real age is in my profile, and as if older and not wiser should be of import.
Show your wisdom in the contents of your post, not your mouth.
So far it is very disappointing.
I think the Indian profile fits you better than being Vietnamese.
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[Mangus Ortus Novem]

The Future is always moving, flowing... yet every flow has a direction.

The best hope for humanity is the integeration of Eurasia. The combined economic and technological output of Eurasia can sustain the entire planet for a long term growth and stability.... away from wars and chaos.

The Centre of this New Gravity is in Shanghai financially.... and SCO politically.

It takes a long time for some people to realise that their day under the Sun is gone... so they linger on a bit longer.

One of the key elements of Eurasian integeration is stability and harmony in NE Asia... SE Asia is already moving forward. TW at this stage is a paper issue...within a decade it will be part of PRC same as HK.

The other fundamental node is the ME/South West Asia... when the troubles end in ME and South West Asia (readak) becomes fully integerated into the Chinese economy... the Eurasain farmework would be standing on solid grounds.

Europe as whole would need to find independence and shape European policies towards self interest. Slow process but it is happening.

Hence we are looking at a couple of decades of developments towards Eurasian Integeration... OBOR/BRI is moving forward smoothly in this direction.

Patience is the Virtue of the Wise!

 

[gambit]

Straight from the horse mouth.
Traits of a self conceited person.
All you have said are nothing but personal attacks based on your bias without basis.
But then members would expect more substance from you, being a PROFESSIONAL.

News for you, buddy, I never asked for that 'Professional' title.

As far as personal attacks goes, look at your own post 40 back on pge 2 where YOU deviated and attacked US.

You chose to brag while I prefer to maintain privacy about my military experience but suffice to say my whole family except one is in the military with one retiring just recently.

Yeah...I understand mandatory military service in SG.

So here is an offer: Either treat my country with respect and remain on topic, or I will find everything and anything that is wrong with your country and give you a taste of your own medicine.

You older than me ?
Not sure about that and my real age is in my profile, and as if older and not wiser should be of import.

Am 54, which makes you and I are in the same generation. You missed it when I said 'your kind' which means a group, not YOU in particular. Your kind if the kind that when it comes to the US, you are more emotional rather than rational.

Show your wisdom in the contents of your post, not your mouth.
So far it is very disappointing.

Speak for yourself.

I think the Indian profile fits you better than being Vietnamese.

So when it comes down to it, race is the only thing that matter. Looks like you are no better than the Americans you sneered at. Disappointing since I know a few decent Singaporean Chinese.

 

[sinait]

Yeah...I understand mandatory military service in SG.

So here is an offer: Either treat my country with respect and remain on topic, or I will find everything and anything that is wrong with your country and give you a taste of your own medicine.

Am 54, which makes you and I are in the same generation. You missed it when I said 'your kind' which means a group, not YOU in particular. Your kind if the kind that when it comes to the US, you are more emotional rather than rational.

Speak for yourself.

So when it comes down to it, race is the only thing that matter. Looks like you are no better than the Americans you sneered at. Disappointing since I know a few decent Singaporean Chinese.

Sorry I am not talking of mandatory military service but voluntary military service.
I am afraid we are not in the same generation, but like I said before, age alone do not determine our knowledge.
When I say just retired from the military, I mean at age 62, i.e last year.
I believe you are not Indian, just saying you act like one.

Its not that you know nothing or dumb, on the contrary quite knowledgeable in certain subjects.
@Dungeness is correct about you.

When it comes to China, you turned into a low level troll in a snap, every time!

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[gambit]

@Dungeness is correct about you..

Of course he is -- to you.

You cannot say otherwise. You already made it clear on how you view US and her people. You cannot see how the Chinese trolled US because to you, what they do is legitimate and if we return the favor, we are wrong.

 

[sinait]

Of course he is -- to you.

You cannot say otherwise. You already made it clear on how you view US and her people. You cannot see how the Chinese trolled US because to you, what they do is legitimate and if we return the favor, we are wrong.

Not really, I think he describes you exactly.
Singaporeans are mostly pro US AND pro China as well.
We would rather not have to choose sides.

I also see a lot of Chinese PDF members resident in the US and Canada as well so I don't think they hate the US.
I just cannot stand the hypocrisy of the endless bashing and made up lies and propaganda against China.
Regards trolling, I think the Chinese have to concede defeat to the US and the Indians.
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[Viet]

The Future is always moving, flowing... yet every flow has a direction.

The best hope for humanity is the integeration of Eurasia. The combined economic and technological output of Eurasia can sustain the entire planet for a long term growth and stability.... away from wars and chaos.

The Centre of this New Gravity is in Shanghai financially.... and SCO politically.

It takes a long time for some people to realise that their day under the Sun is gone... so they linger on a bit longer.

One of the key elements of Eurasian integeration is stability and harmony in NE Asia... SE Asia is already moving forward. TW at this stage is a paper issue...within a decade it will be part of PRC same as HK.

The other fundamental node is the ME/South West Asia... when the troubles end in ME and South West Asia (readak) becomes fully integerated into the Chinese economy... the Eurasain farmework would be standing on solid grounds.

Europe as whole would need to find independence and shape European policies towards self interest. Slow process but it is happening.

Hence we are looking at a couple of decades of developments towards Eurasian Integeration... OBOR/BRI is moving forward smoothly in this direction.

Patience is the Virtue of the Wise!

Why Shanghai? No way, for the sake of humanity we should vote for my home city that has one of the most beautiful beaches of the world: Nha Trang.

Seriously, bro, cheerleaders should know their limits.

 

[Sanchez]

Not really, I think he describes you exactly.
Singaporeans are mostly pro US AND pro China as well.
We would rather not have to choose sides.

I also see a lot of Chinese PDF members resident in the US and Canada as well so I don't think they hate the US.
I just cannot stand the hypocrisy of the endless bashing and made up lies and propaganda against China.
Regards trolling, I think the Chinese have to concede defeat to the US and the Indians.
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We hate those Asian Americans like F-22rapter，Gambit and etc from Vietnam and others from India！

 

[sinait]

We hate those Asian Americans like F-22rapter，Gambit and etc from Vietnam and others from India！

Ya, it is these also ran Americans making all the noises.
Their Sinophobia from their inferiority complex is deafeningly loud.
It is this Asian weakness that have allowed the West to colonize most of Asia.
It seems the West are still succeeding in exploiting this weakness as behavior from India and Vietnam shows.
China is one of those countries able to resist and fought back colonization by repelling the invaders or subsume them literally.
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[Globenim]

The wall of text is not really a grand new insight into the U.S. "strategy". They just replaced suggested "targets" with new ones, while preaching the same point as ever.

tldr: We want you! ...to deal with our problem and safeguard our hegemony in Asia. Hiring now! The pay is horrible and the job is deadly. But if you survive you can bask in the glorly of extortion for our ongoing "protection" unless we decide to turn you into the next Iraq. Just stay divided or become our disposable pawns we don't really care. Just make sure we and by that we obviously dont mean you, stay at the top.

 

[Dungeness]

China's neighbors will gradually get used to a new "status quo". "Status Quo" is for the time being, but "Change" is for eternal. People insist on "status quo" only when they are not capable of changing it.

Just a few years ago, when China was retrofitting the unfinished Soviet AC Varyag, those counties were very unsettled and made a lot of noise about "China Threat", so China had to call it a "training ship" to ease their fear. Now it seems everyone is OK with China's building its 2nd and 3rd ACs.

“There is nothing permanent except change”. ――Heraclitus

 

[gambit]

Not really, I think he describes you exactly.
Singaporeans are mostly pro US AND pro China as well.
We would rather not have to choose sides.

I also see a lot of Chinese PDF members resident in the US and Canada as well so I don't think they hate the US.
I just cannot stand the hypocrisy of the endless bashing and made up lies and propaganda against China.
Regards trolling, I think the Chinese have to concede defeat to the US and the Indians.
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You fell for the lies that the Chinese members of this forum told about me. If you want to talk about troll posts, what the Chinese mean is that I challenged their claims on the technical front. Regarding that news story about how Chinese drivers ran over that little girl and that news item was posted here ? I never made any insulting posts about China. NOT ONE. There are plenty of chances I could have 'trolled' China but never did.

You want another example ? Try the discussions about the Chinese airliner. As an aviation guy myself, I challenge you to find 'troll' posts from me about that Chinese product.

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/chin...-long-haul-flight.527815/page-3#post-10033350

See anything insulting to China in that post ? That kind of technically based commentary are rare for the Chinese in this forum but common to me here. And that is what the Chinese do not like.

Whereas regarding anything about US, even YOU gave in to your base emotion and made derogatory comments about the country that you claimed to be 'pro'. Explain post 39 pge 3 and what does it has to do with the topic of this thread.

You got suckered, pal.

 

[striver44]

The South East Asian peoples don’t share American appetite for engaging in hostility with China.

How times changed,

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