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The Drone Debate Reignited

I dont understand why bahrtis har thread mein apni taang ura laitay hein. Now, I'm not trying to offend anyone but look in this thread and every other in the forum you'll find it's true. The topic here is about drones, Pakistan, America and probably Afghanistan and here come Indian members and drag the topic conversation toward India. Why? they feel left out? they feel everything should be about them? for god's sakes stop derailing every topic and thread, you're not as important as you think you are.
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If Pakistan does not want the Drone attack and Kiyani says it in no uncertain terms, then if the US continues, it means that there is a tacit understanding, or has acquiesced to US desires or Pakistan is helpless for some known reason that is not being divulged in the open fora.

One just cannot and should not have the liberty to as they feel like.
 
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I dont understand why bahrtis har thread mein apni taang ura laitay hein. Now, I'm not trying to offend anyone but look in this thread and every other in the forum you'll find it's true. The topic here is about drones, Pakistan, America and probably Afghanistan and here come Indian members and drag the topic conversation toward India. Why? they feel left out? they feel everything should be about them? for god's sakes stop derailing every topic and thread, you're not as important as you think you are.
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If you have not understood why Indians are responding to this thread, then you are indeed myopic in the English language manner of the term.

If one Nation can ride roughshod over the desires and security, with total impunity, of another nation, then it surely raises serious concern.

That apart, it will only help foment a greater horde of terrorists and these terrporists need not be operating against the US or even Pakistan alone and may even turn their interest beyond their borders.

That is what brings others to check the thread and even comment!
 
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they were indian agencies not pakistani agencies who gave clean chit to ISI and their relative jehadi groups for this incidents

Like ISI needs a clean chit from Indians :lol:
 
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Nobody gets away with their crimes.Americans will pay for the blood they have on their hands of thousands of civilians.

Actually there is little chance of that as long as we have the current crop of idiots as leaders of the Armed Forces as well as the civilian government...
 
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If you have not understood why Indians are responding to this thread, then you are indeed myopic in the English language manner of the term.

If one Nation can ride roughshod over the desires and security, with total impunity, of another nation, then it surely raises serious concern.

That apart, it will only help foment a greater horde of terrorists and these terrporists need not be operating against the US or even Pakistan alone and may even turn their interest beyond their borders.

That is what brings others to check the thread and even comment!

I didn't say don't comment, by all means do, I said don't comment "about India" when it's not related to it.
 
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Thanks for the op-eds. They represent a useful contribution. The discussion remains difficult and clouded by an absence of verifiable fact, particularly WRT actual casualties. Claims and counter-claims are largely unproductive to advancing further understanding when the stark reality is that nobody actually knows.

U.S. Drone Strike Kills 25 In Pakistan's North Waziristan-Reuters April 21, 2011

"The drone strike happened in Mir Ali town, about 35 km (20 miles) east of the region's main town of Miranshah.

A Pakistani intelligence official in the region who declined to be identified said the house was being used as a militant hideout.

"They have surrounded the area and are not allowing anybody to go there," the intelligence official said, referring to militants.

Twenty-five bodies had been recovered from the rubble and three women were among those killed, he said."


How often have we read something similar? Numbers of dead and wounded are ascribed yet no verification is possible. How can this be anything more, then, than simply an etching of the event in the most vague terms? Somebody, of course, may know with a high degree of accuracy but the means for doing so are protected...and this is understandable even should it not contribute to our understanding.

I'll be interested to see if drone facilities are ever relocated away from Pakistan. That'll be the clearest indication that the Pakistani government has forsaken PREDATOR's value in preference to public sentiment. Anything less represents a duplicitous pursuit of the weapon's benefit while attempting to allay the concerns of a largely uninformed Pakistani public.

Could America continue such attacks anyway? Maybe. Both Jalalabad and Asadabad might be sufficiently large enough to house such facilities while also close to the primary target areas.

Unlike Pakistan, however, the major concern would be the security of such locations. Currently, PREDATOR operates from Pakistan AFBs throughout Balouchistan and are secure from taliban attack. That might change should those aircraft be deployed from the afghan side yet near their primary target areas.

It takes an air base sufficiently large to prevent accurate rocket/mortar fire on hanger, ammunition and staging facilities. Bagram and Kandahar provide such but are not particularly close to N. Waziristan. Whether the base facilities currently exist in the aforementioned areas would be a major limiting factor.

EDIT: 4100 posts!! Woo-hoo!!!:yahoo::victory:
 
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