The defeat of the Afghan government sparks debates across Taiwan about if Taiwan will become the same

[Foinikas]

FALSE. You're just afraid of us. You don't like us, you hate us, because we are different from you.

You hate the unknown, and hate others are different from you.

You are afraid of us because we are strong and getting stronger. What's worse, all the enemies in our history have died.
You are afraid because you don't understand, hate because you are afraid, and finally hypocritically say you like it.
How does your religion deal with liars?

Why would I hate you? I'm from Greece.
Greece and China have had excellent relations. Have you though that maybe,just maybe,you are the one who is afraid of the "different"? The non-Maoist? The non-party narrative?
Why would I be afraid or hate China? What I don't like is this kind of absolute communist imperialist expansionism that you have been on and on about,this "we will reunite,whether they want it or not".
Let me ask you something. If China right now was weak,very weak. Ok? But lived happily. You were quiet and didn't bother anyone and you loved the way your country was like. And then the islanders came and said "We'll bring Kuomingtang liberation to you,brothers! We will reunite all of China! We will fullfill Chiang Kai-Sek's dream! We will set you free from Soviet tyranny and brain-washing! And if we have to invade and destroy you,then be it!"

Would you have liked that? Would that seem cool to you?

 

[MH.Yang]

There is a higher chance of Tibet, Xinjiang and Hong Kong breaking away from Chinese forced occupation than Taiwan surrendering to CCP stooges.

I always think that Indians with an average IQ of 82 are subspecies Homo sapiens. I'm not interested in chatting with you. I suggest you go to the zoo to find a chimpanzee. The chimpanzee has an IQ of 83, and its body is stronger than Indians. If there were a billion chimpanzees, they might win one gold medals in the Olympic Games.

 

[MH.Yang]

Why would I hate you? I'm from Greece.
Greece and China have had excellent relations. Have you though that maybe,just maybe,you are the one who is afraid of the "different"? The non-Maoist? The non-party narrative?
Why would I be afraid or hate China? What I don't like is this kind of absolute communist imperialist expansionism that you have been on and on about,this "we will reunite,whether they want it or not".
Let me ask you something. If China right now was weak,very weak. Ok? But lived happily. You were quiet and didn't bother anyone and you loved the way your country was like. And then the islanders came and said "We'll bring Kuomingtang liberation to you,brothers! We will reunite all of China! We will fullfill Chiang Kai-Sek's dream! We will set you free from Soviet tyranny and brain-washing! And if we have to invade and destroy you,then be it!"

Would you have liked that? Would that seem cool to you?

If the Taiwanese can unify China, we can accept it because they are also Chinese.

China must be unified, but it does not necessarily require a CCP government. If CCP loses to KMT, The reason must be it lose the support of the people.

I don't believe you're Greek. But I believe you are not Muslim. I guess you are an orthodox christian. You may be Macedonian.

 

[F-22Raptor]

Yeah, no. The first PLA Rocket Force barrages will be plenty surprising.

All your wars are failures, so why would I care what an American thinks about Taiwan's prospects? I honestly hope your war planners are as ridiculously inept as you are, talking about "human wave" tactics. You know nothing.

And the PRC doesn't rely on "the element of surprise" to take Taiwan, it relies on overwhelming precision fires. If those separatist traitors cross the line, they'll think God Himself demolished their would-be "country."

The top General of the US Armed Forces clearly states the Chinese don’t have the capability to invade and defeat Taiwan. And he has far more intelligence and insight than anyone on US, Chinese, and Taiwanese military capabilities.

 

[Foinikas]

If the Taiwanese can unify China, we can accept it because they are also Chinese.

China must be unified, but it does not necessarily require a CCP government. If CCP loses to KMT, The reason must be it lose the support of the people.

I don't believe you're Greek. But I believe you are not Muslim. I guess you are an orthodox christian. You may be Macedonian.

I'm Greek Orthodox,Hellenic and Macedonians are Greek. The little state called "North Macedonia,has nothing to do with ancient Macedonia,they are Slavs. But that is another matter for a different thread.

If you would accept Chinese unification under KMT or modern democracy or even a Chinese emperor again,that honors you. That,I understand and agree with. But you cannon forcefully annex someone who does not want to be with you just like that,at least not in modern times. That would be conquering.

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

I don't intend to think Taiwan alone can defeat China, that would be foolish.
Their plan is to inflict as many casualties as possible for as long as possible until a considerate amount of US forces arrive to help them.

Anyways, I don't know if China has 240k 140+ km range artillery rockets. This is an immense amount of really large missiles. They would have to invest heavily into that field, 240k missiles every 5 minutes is an impossible rate. That would mean there has to be somewhere around 15,000 vehicles firing at the same time. All at Chinese shores. Those are numbers even China doesn't have.

Your war with Taiwan wouldn't be significant. The war after is.

They can try but their communication, command, power, radar, etc. will be targeted. So will their civilian infrastructure like TSMC.

The population can be handled Palestinian style. Is.rael was a great inspiration on how to manage hostile civilians.

How do they want to split you? TAIWAN DOESN'T WANT TO JOIN YOU! You have to realize it. You have to understand it. That is the old communist concept of "liberation".Conquest and forceful annexation.
Why is it so hard to put it in your head,that these people in HK,Taiwan and Macau did not want to be part of the PRC?

Doesn't matter. They're occupying Chinese land. If they don't want to join China they can emigrate just like Afghans are doing. What, you think harsh rhetoric is an effective weapon?

 

[Foinikas]

Doesn't matter. They're occupying Chinese land. If they don't want to join China they can emigrate just like Afghans are doing. What, you think harsh rhetoric is an effective weapon?

They are Chinese themselves,they are not occupying land. They are Chinese. They didn't steal it.
You claim Formosa had always been Chinese,good then,Chinese lived there in the late 40s and more Chinese retreated there when the Civil War was over.

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

They are Chinese themselves,they are not occupying land. They are Chinese. They didn't steal it.
You claim Formosa had always been Chinese,good then,Chinese lived there in the late 40s and more Chinese retreated there when the Civil War was over.

The land is Chinese. Whether the people there are Chinese, that is up to them to decide with their actions.

 

[northeast]

They are Chinese themselves,they are not occupying land. They are Chinese. They didn't steal it.
You claim Formosa had always been Chinese,good then,Chinese lived there in the late 40s and more Chinese retreated there when the Civil War was over.

They are traitors, native or not, most chinese see them as traitors. We can't sit there and watch traitors dancing with enemies in our front gate, our lands. Your european value doesn't work here, go propagate your corrupt european value elsewhere, this is about war, about live or dead. If you cares the opinion of the natives somuch,I suggest the west should respect the opinion of creamian natives,that they want to be a part of russia.

 

[Foinikas]

The land is Chinese. Whether the people there are Chinese, that is up to them to decide with their actions.

Right now there are two Chinese States. A communist one and a non-communist. The non-communist does not want to unite with you. They do not want to unite with you,they don't want to live under your system. They have their own economy,way of life and political system and views. Basically,if you attack them now,you do not want to unite with them,but destroy them. You want to cause them harm and brutally annex them.

They are traitors, native or not, most chinese see them as traitors. We can't sit there and watch traitors dancing with enemies in our front gate, our lands. Your european value doesn't work here, go propagate your corrupt european value elsewhere, this is about war, about live or dead.

What "live or dead"? They don't want war with you! YOU are the ones who want war with them! You keep talking all the time about "take back land". They are living peacefully in their island and warmongering people like you come out of nowhere and go like "We must unite or they die". No sir,that is not good. That makes enemies of your nation. That would make other countries eventually dislike the PRC and think of it as a impossible to deal with. That would make the whole Far East area a boiling cauldron for a new big war.
All because you couldn't accept that Chinese who didn't want to be communists,created their own country and tried to live peacefully for half a century.

 

[northeast]

Right now there are two Chinese States. A communist one and a non-communist. The non-communist does not want to unite with you. They do not want to unite with you,they don't want to live under your system. They have their own economy,way of life and political system and views. Basically,if you attack them now,you do not want to unite with them,but destroy them. You want to cause them harm and brutally annex them.

What "live or dead"? They don't want war with you! YOU are the ones who want war with them! You keep talking all the time about "take back land". They are living peacefully in their island and warmongering people like you come out of nowhere and go like "We must unite or they die". No sir,that is not good. That makes enemies of your nation. That would make other countries eventually dislike the PRC and think of it as a impossible to deal with. That would make the whole Far East area a boiling cauldron for a new big war.
All because you couldn't accept that Chinese who didn't want to be communists,created their own country and tried to live peacefully for half a century.

If you respect the opinion of the natives so much,I suggest the west should respect the opinion of creamian natives,that they want to be a part of russia. Talking about warmongering people blahblah, USA is the biggest warmongering nation in the world,and what does EU do? You are still a lapdog of the biggest warmongering country for decades, ironic ,isn't it?

 

[Foinikas]

If you respect the opinion of the natives so much,I suggest the west should respect the opinion of creamian natives,that they want to be a part of russia.

They are part of Russia. Crimea and Taiwan are different situations.

 

[northeast]

They are part of Russia. Crimea and Taiwan are different situations.

Then why EU sanction russia for that? And why EU is still a lapdog of the biggest warmongering country USA for decades? ironic ,isn't it?

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

Right now there are two Chinese States. A communist one and a non-communist. The non-communist does not want to unite with you. They do not want to unite with you,they don't want to live under your system. They have their own economy,way of life and political system and views. Basically,if you attack them now,you do not want to unite with them,but destroy them. You want to cause them harm and brutally annex them.

What "live or dead"? They don't want war with you! YOU are the ones who want war with them! You keep talking all the time about "take back land". They are living peacefully in their island and warmongering people like you come out of nowhere and go like "We must unite or they die". No sir,that is not good. That makes enemies of your nation. That would make other countries eventually dislike the PRC and think of it as a impossible to deal with. That would make the whole Far East area a boiling cauldron for a new big war.
All because you couldn't accept that Chinese who didn't want to be communists,created their own country and tried to live peacefully for half a century.

the so called noncommunist side was a military dictatorship that backstabbed the communists first by killing innocent people by sending warlords and gangsters after them. the military dictators looted the gold from China in their retreat.

what is wrong with punishing traitors and thieves that stole your land? this is unsolved business. These traitors, dictators and gangsters have not yet been punished. their time is coming. if they are destroyed in the process, so be it. whose fault is it if they are given so many chances to survive yet they refuse to take them nor change their behavior?

 

[Foinikas]

Then why EU sanction russia for that? And why EU is still a lapdog of the biggest warmongering country USA for decades? ironic ,isn't it?

Well not all countries in Europe agree with it. Most of the Greeks,Serbs,Montenegrins,Cypriots and other Orthodox and non-Orthodox countries are pro-Russian,but the governments you see...

what is wrong with punishing traitors and thieves that stole your land? this is unsolved business. These traitors, dictators and gangsters have not yet been punished. their time is coming. if they are destroyed in the process, so be it. whose fault is it if they are given so many chances to survive yet they refuse to take them nor change their behavior?

That was in the 1940s man,it's 2021 now. They have their own country,you have a MASSIVE country of your own,it's not worth going to a big war and destroying relations with the entire area for that.
Anyway,we won't agree on this. I'm not anti-Chinese,I don't want you to think that. I am though against an invasion of Taiwan. Don't take me for anti-Chinese.