The Coming U.S.-India Train Wreck

[SamantK]

The whole point of the article is that the Indian response to American demands for Iran's isolation will have an impact on American calculations of India's reliability as an ally. You guys may deny that you are an 'ally', but that's the whole deception game that India has been playing.

Deceptions are not played out so openly, they go much deeper. The think tanks in America are not stupid to let go of India just because it sides Iran. For that matter US till now sided with Pakistan, did we let go? It is mutually beneficial for both India and US. What America says and calculates are depended on their understanding. Many things factor in, for example
1. India is a democracy and a stable state, it will not take stupid decisions.
2. India has a great economic engine running.
3. India is sufficiently capable to meet its security threats.

US wants to be more involved with India. If you think reading stuff here and there is enough to know their reasons and consequences of diplomacy.. you should think again.

This thing with Iran is serious stuff that the policymakers and Pentagon really care about. This is not some people-appeasing PR stunt like climate change and carbon trading legislations.

That's precisely the point! The American romance with India 'coincides' with China's rise. Lately, the Americans have come out openly about where they view India in their geopolitical agenda for Asia. It's no secret any more.

Iran being an enemy of Israel and Israel being friendly with us is a good example for you to analyse more profoundly!

 

[IND151]

It was the republicans themselves who took the Indo-US relationship to the next level. As it t=is, the American relationship with India has so far been a mutual one. Unlike their previous relationships with other countries.

BTW, When it comes to India, Americans will have to decide as to which country they perceive as a bigger and a more serious threat to their global dominance, Iran or China.

i agree

and US cant afford to lose India as partner as then it will not only lose a strong ally but also lose 160 billion dollar worth deals in Indian energy market.

France and Russia will bag those deals.

 

[Rig Vedic]

I expect India to take the path of least resistance, which would mean not recognizing sanctions that are not approved by the UN, but at the same time reducing oil purchases in order to address concerns of Israel and the US.

Obviously neither side will be happy.

From India's point of view, Iran has an important role to play in stabilizing Afghanistan.

I do not think there is any structural hostility between Iran and Israel ... Iran's leadership should alleviate concerns about their intentions and stop backing any irresponsible actors. A more democratic and non-religious government in Iran would be welcome. US also needs to show a respect for Iranian independence. Frankly, I think the US is misjudging what the real security threats are.

 

[Capt.Popeye]

Deceptions are not played out so openly, they go much deeper. The think tanks in America are not stupid to let go of India just because it sides Iran. For that matter US till now sided with Pakistan, did we let go? It is mutually beneficial for both India and US. What America says and calculates are depended on their understanding. Many things factor in, for example
1. India is a democracy and a stable state, it will not take stupid decisions.
2. India has a great economic engine running.
3. India is sufficiently capable to meet its security threats.

US wants to be more involved with India. If you think reading stuff here and there is enough to know their reasons and consequences of diplomacy.. you should think again.




Iran being an enemy of Israel and Israel being friendly with us is a good example for you to analyse more profoundly!

That needs thinking! Thats not everyones cup of tea!

India and USA are in a "working relationship" just as India and Israel are; and just as India and Iran have been for all these years after the Shah's departure. Its amusing to see that some people who sought and brandished a relationship of being an "ally" of the USA (with all the associated pain) for so many years are quick to conjure up "alliances" just like that!

India does not have and will not have "alliances" with the US. Remember the halcyon days of CENTO and SEATO.
At that time India just looked askance at any approach to join any "alliance", while being in a far weaker strategic and economic situation. Times have changed. Today, India is seeking "working relationships" around the world that will (in essence) allow India to further her interests. And if they happen to be congruent with some-body else's interests, thats ok. But the red-lines are clear to all concerned. And if India happens to be sought after, regardless of that fact; that is fine.

But that is as far as it goes.

While the "allies" and such like can only watch from the side-lines.

 

[Developereo]

We agree that it's a mix of economics and geopolitics. Where we disagree is the relative mix, and the potential consequences if/when the US decides the geopolitical ROI are not what they were expecting from this relationship.