The clearest J-20 pictures.

[antonius123]

No, kid. There are plenty of publicly available information on adjustable corner reflector antenna in radio communication. As for the image I posted, there are clearly non-90 deg angles formed by the frames and panels.

Here it is again, blind fool...

You still dont get my point.

The 120 degree which form hexagonal in your picture above is not the meant corner that return the wave, but the inside one, that is perpendicular. Didn't I say you should read again your own article?

Again you are demonstrating clueless and idiocy as you think that the side corner that shaping hexagonal is the reflecting corner

And if you think reflection behaviors occurs ONLY on corners that are exactly 90 deg, it is an even further confirmation that you have education and training no higher than grade school.

Corner reflector do not only refer to reflecting, but returning! do you understand the difference?

Of course reflection behavior occurs in various kind of degree, but if we talking returning as meant in corner reflector, it does only in corner reflector (90 degree).

You obviously dont understand what corner reflector meant

Now look at this source for one of those corner reflector antenna...

Corner reflector antenna

What does figure B say, fool?

It is confirming that you have no clue about corner reflector.

As I said above, reflector <> corner reflector.

Reflector is just reflecting, but corner reflector is returning.
You miss understand the article as usual

Nope, the idiot here is still YOU for failing logical thinking. The issue is avoidance of corner reflectors in RCS control methods. It does not matter if the corner is 90 deg or not. Avoid them if possible. The B-2 have no vertical stabilators, so there are no corner reflectors formed by flight control surfaces. The F-117, F-22, and F-35 are of different designs and they must have vertical stabilators but not the 90 deg type. So for you to say that I say there is a pentagonal reflector on the J-20 is an epic failure of critical thinking.

You have no valid citation to back your claimed non 90 degree corner reflector. Then your talking is just an empty check - just as someone else told you.

So the issue is avoidance non 90 degree corner reflector only exist in your own FANTASY

By your logic, even F-22 and F-35 also have detrimental corner reflector, which actually dont.

If you have any real aviation 'study' like you claimed, we would not be having this debate. You are a fraud.

This debate is because you are clueless and not having enough basic knowledge as you think / expect other people to believe.

Since Kopp DID NOT say that he had a real J-20 in his measurement, does that mean he could have a real J-20? Do you really think that people is going to buy that line of 'logic'?

Again, it is clear to everyone outside of the Chinese circle here that you have absolutely NO aviation experience in general, let alone in the discipline of radar. This is also a clear case of failed logical thinking.

If your claimed aviation background is not FAKE, you certainly will understand what Kopp's suggestion.

He never use any quantitative meassurement as you think, instead he is judging from SHAPING, and as Martian citation said: stealth (rcs) mainly is about SHAPING; this principle is something that clueless person like you do not understand.

Yes it does. You tried to use your alleged aviation experience to shut the Indians up. I challenged you on what experience do you have. You then retracted it to merely 'study'. So since you brought it up once and is currently engaged in an aviation related subject, your claim is fair game.

So what did you 'study' in aviation? What a fraud you are.

You only try to derail the debate, since you are spoiling your reputation in this real debate

Folks will see how you miss understand a lot of article and Credible Expert Suggestion.

I understand it far better than you do. You never even read what Kopp did. Heck, I doubt if you understood the intro paragraph. And yet you failed to see the long section where Kopp admitted how Physical Optics failed and that he had no other tools to compensate. You failed at logical thinking here, fraud.

Really??

I dont buy it. As until now you fail to prove a lot of thing, especially your failure to understand Kopp's suggestion and your failure to show Reputable Expert that counter Kopp on his J-20 stealthier suggestion.

 

[gambit]

You still dont get my point.

The 120 degree which form hexagonal in your picture above is not the meant corner that return the wave, but the inside one, that is perpendicular. Didn't I say you should read again your own article?

Fail. All corner reflectors are directional, regardless of their degrees. This means you have no education and training in radio propagation.

Corner reflector do not only refer to reflecting, but returning! do you understand the difference?

There is a difference in 'returning' versus 'reflecting'? Show us a source explaining the differences.

Of course reflection behavior occurs in various kind of degree, but if we talking returning as meant in corner reflector, it does only in corner reflector (90 degree).

You obviously dont understand what corner reflector meant

It is confirming that you have no clue about corner reflector.

As I said above, reflector <> corner reflector.

Reflector is just reflecting, but corner reflector is returning.
You miss understand the article as usual

This is clearly a desperate attempt by someone who have no relevant experience whatsoever and is trying to save face by making up sh1t as he goes along.

Here is an example of a communication antenna with variable sides corner reflectors...

Now see if you can find the advantages and disadvantages of having non-90 deg corner reflectors.

If we turn the above example sideways, we can see the J-20's corner reflectors.

You have no valid citation to back your claimed non 90 degree corner reflector. Then your talking is just an empty check - just as someone else told you.

So the issue is avoidance non 90 degree corner reflector only exist in your own FANTASY

I got plenty while you have proven yourself to be a complete idiot.

By your logic, even F-22 and F-35 also have detrimental corner reflector, which actually dont.

Of course they do. But not based upon your limited understanding of the subject. We know by now you are a fraud when you claimed to have aviation experience.

If your claimed aviation background is not FAKE, you certainly will understand what Kopp's suggestion.

He never use any quantitative meassurement as you think, instead he is judging from SHAPING, and as Martian citation said: stealth (rcs) mainly is about SHAPING; this principle is something that clueless person like you do not understand.

Complete nonsense.

So what was your 'study' in aviation?

 

[antonius123]

Fail. All corner reflectors are directional, regardless of their degrees. This means you have no education and training in radio propagation.

You keep claiming without any evidence. Aren't you ashamed?

Your evidence is required.

If you understand your own article and picture, you will know that the corner reflector meant is not the side hexagonal ones, but the inside and perpendicular one.

You are stubborn idiot and faked.

There is a difference in 'returning' versus 'reflecting'? Show us a source explaining the differences.

Simple: Reflecting is not always returning.

Surprising people who claim big like you even dont know the basic; no wonder you are clueless about corner reflector.

This is clearly a desperate attempt by someone who have no relevant experience whatsoever and is trying to save face by making up sh1t as he goes along.

Here is an example of a communication antenna with variable sides corner reflectors...

Now see if you can find the advantages and disadvantages of having non-90 deg corner reflectors.

If we turn the above example sideways, we can see the J-20's corner reflectors.

CAnt you read it is side angle??

As I said, it is side angle; that is the non 90 degree angle meant. Not the reflecting angle meant.

I got plenty while you have proven yourself to be a complete idiot.

I believe there are thousands you can drag from internet, but it will be useless if you dont understand and clueless.

Of course they do. But not based upon your limited understanding of the subject. We know by now you are a fraud when you claimed to have aviation experience.

More hilarious as you bring another claim that F-22 has detrimental corner reflector which means F-22 still failed to become stealth fighter. It means the stringent effort to make F-22 stealth is a failure.

Now bring me evidence that F-22 has detrimental corner reflector.

You are fraud here.

Complete nonsense.

So what was your 'study' in aviation?

What your study in Aviation??

Why you are so clueless about a lot of things??

 

[j20blackdragon]

A 90 degree corner reflector behaves like this.

Now I want someone to do a ray trace for this 120 degree corner reflector. I don't care who does it. Someone step up to the plate.

 

[gambit]

What your study in Aviation??

I have 10 yrs in the USAF. That have been established to people a long time ago.

You claimed to have aviation experience, in other words, you claimed to be in an exclusive club, and yet you failed basic knowledge of many principles and critical thinking skills. If you do have real aviation experience and tried to use it to shut people up, you should have no hesitation in telling us what do have.

The Chinese boys here, despite them being often intellectually dishonest in their claims, at least they are wise enough not to pretend to have experience they do not have. They know that in any military oriented forums, there are always at least a few who have genuine life experiences. For you to come in and boast about your aviation 'study' to try to shut the Indians up, and now refuses to tell us what experience you have, mean you are nothing more than a foolish teenager.

So if you have real aviation experience or 'study', you should have no problems telling us what.

A 90 degree corner reflector behaves like this.

Now I want someone to do a ray trace for this 120 degree corner reflector. I don't care who does it. Someone step up to the plate.

Please explain why are there non-90 deg corner reflector in communication and what are the advantages.

 

[antonius123]

A 90 degree corner reflector behaves like this.

Now I want someone to do a ray trace for this 120 degree corner reflector. I don't care who does it. Someone step up to the plate.

Thank you blackdragon.

I am wondering how is the clueless joker "gambit" will describe how the 120 degree corner could be the corner reflector as he claim.

Gambit, please explain!

Please understand that corner reflector must RETURNING BACK the wave to it's sender as shown in the above blue perpendicular corner, not just reflecting.

 

[gambit]

Gambit, please explain!

Please understand that corner reflector must RETURNING BACK the wave to it's sender as shown in the above blue perpendicular corner, not just reflecting.

So what was your area of 'study' in aviation?

 

[antonius123]

I have 10 yrs in the USAF. That have been established to people a long time ago.

You claimed to have aviation experience, in other words, you claimed to be in an exclusive club, and yet you failed basic knowledge of many principles and critical thinking skills. If you do have real aviation experience and tried to use it to shut people up, you should have no hesitation in telling us what do have.

The Chinese boys here, despite them being often intellectually dishonest in their claims, at least they are wise enough not to pretend to have experience they do not have. They know that in any military oriented forums, there are always at least a few who have genuine life experiences. For you to come in and boast about your aviation 'study' to try to shut the Indians up, and now refuses to tell us what experience you have, mean you are nothing more than a foolish teenager.

So if you have real aviation experience or 'study', you should have no problems telling us what.

In what division of the USAF? it is your own claim right? any proof/evidence?

Based on the evidence of your argumentation, it is clear that your self proclaimed expert is fraud, as you are clueless in a lot of basic things.

Please explain why are there non-90 deg corner reflector in communication and what are the advantages.

Again you are trying to distract your counterpart and evading his question to you. It is really your bad habit.

Please answer his question first before you are asking another question.
If you are really expert then you wont distract to another question.

So what was your area of 'study' in aviation?

Why? cant you answer the question?

Your old trick doesnt work.

 

[gambit]

In what division of the USAF? it is your own claim right? any proof/evidence?

Based on the evidence of your argumentation, it is clear that your self proclaimed expert is fraud, as you are clueless in a lot of basic things.

There are no 'division' in the USAF. Besides, what unit I served with is not the point, technical specialty is the point. Mine was avionics, from the F-111 to the F-16.

So what was your 'study' in aviation? You should have no problems telling us. You lied about yourself once. You should have no problems making up another lie now.

 

[antonius123]

There are no 'division' in the USAF. Besides, what unit I served with is not the point, technical specialty is the point. Mine was avionics, from the F-111 to the F-16.

So what was your 'study' in aviation? You should have no problems telling us. You lied about yourself once. You should have no problems making up another lie now.

Any evidence?

If that is true, why are you so clueless??

It should be simple for you to explain and bring the relevant evidence (not irrelevant article with wrong interpretation) if you are not FRAUD.

 

[gambit]

Any evidence?

If that is true, why are you so clueless??

It should be simple for you to explain and bring the relevant evidence if you are not FRAUD.

If you have any real aviation 'study' and/or experience, bring it. It is a simple thing to say: 'I used to overhaul pneudraulics on the 727' or something like that. You can show your superior knowledge by showing us what was your 'study'.

 

[antonius123]

If you have any real aviation 'study' and/or experience, bring it. It is a simple thing to say: 'I used to overhaul pneudraulics on the 727' or something like that. You can show your superior knowledge by showing us what was your 'study'.

Any proof?

Otherwise there is only 2 possibility:
1. You are the clueless maintenance guy (your knowledge is limited to maintenance, but you are daring to talk aviation, stealth, etc)
2. You are FRAUD

 

[gambit]

Any proof?

Otherwise there is only 2 possibility:
1. You are the clueless maintenance guy (your knowledge is limited to maintenance, but you are daring to talk aviation, stealth, etc)
2. You are FRAUD

Just as we suspected: You are a nobody. A teenager foolish enough to think he can get away with pretense and got busted.

Kid, anyone who have any real experience would have no problems AT ALL saying what he does, or did, for a living, regardless of what other people say about themselves.

So what was your area of 'study' in aviation?

 

[antonius123]

Just as we suspected: You are a nobody. A teenager foolish enough to think he can get away with pretense and got busted.

Kid, anyone who have any real experience would have no problems AT ALL saying what he does, or did, for a living, regardless of what other people say about themselves.

So what was your area of 'study' in aviation?

It is you who failed to answer and bring evidence of your own claim

Why cant you answer blackdragon's and my question about how 120 degree corner will behave as a corner reflector as questioned above? That is very very essential that you need to response instead distracting to your other self proclaimed expert things. Why cant you?

 

[Esc8781]

Any proof?

Otherwise there is only 2 possibility:
1. You are the clueless maintenance guy (your knowledge is limited to maintenance, but you are daring to talk aviation, stealth, etc)
2. You are FRAUD

Look at his avatar 77th Fighter Squadron, that means he has the engine experience anyways. Motto: Once A Gambler, Always A Gambler. Gambit did you Gamble? I'm just joking.