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The 'China Owns The U.S. ' MYTH EXPOSED !

On the contrary, China invests very heavily in the U.S. by sending so many of its students here. Though I suspect China could improve its returns if it fed its kids a little more - they seem to be malnourished, even starving, upon arrival. I recall one science student, it took over a month to get him up and running; he just couldn't stop thinking about his next meal.

You're making yourself look foolish with such an obvious lie. :lol:

If anything, having one child means that they are actually spoiled with attention and resources by the parents. And if they can afford to send their children to university overseas they can certainly afford something as basic as food.

Solomon, stick to bashing Pakistan on behalf of your fellow Jews, it seems to be the only thing you are good at.
 
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FDI Between China And The United States
Not What Many People Expect

By Steve Jones, About.com Guide
Updated June 24, 2012

"FDI Between China And The United States"


Americans have long griped about "foreigners" taking over the country. In the 1970s they complained about Japanese buying up U.S. interests. More recently, the target of American worry has been China.

Certainly, the American and global media have made much of China's economic ascendancy (and many news outlets predicting the impending burst of the China "bubble"). U.S. President Barack Obama and his administration are also paying more attention to the Asia Pacific region as a result of the economic "China syndrome."

But is China really buying up the United States?

In a word -- no.

To be sure, China does invest in the United States, as do many other nations. That's called foreign direct investment, or FDI. As I've written elsewhere, FDI is an expected and desirable part of globalized economics.

FDI comes in two parts -- inflow and outflow. Inflow FDI is a foreign nation investing in a home nation; outflow FDI is a home nation investing in a foreign nation. For instance, outflow FDI from the U.S. might allow investors to take advantage of foreign labor or resources. Inflow FDI from a foreign nation to the U.S. could provide capital that stimulates production and wages.

EconoMonitor reports that, in 2010, Chinese entities invested $3.2 billion in the United States. On the other hand, American entities invested $60.5 billion in China.

According to the UCLA Asian American Studies Center, FDI from all investors into China in 2007 was about $82 billion, while outflow was only $20 billion. As of 2006, China had invested a total of some $600 million in the U.S. compared to U.S. investments of more than $22 billion in China.
Reasons For Limited Chinese FDI

Okay, so the American masses can relax -- China is not buying out the United States. It's not even in the top eight foreign investors in the U.S., which in 2010 were Switzerland, the United Kingdom, Japan, France, Germany, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, and Canada.

Nevertheless, Chinese entities want to invest more in the U.S., and those 2010 investment numbers represent a 172% increase over 2009.

Chinese FDI into the United States may be low because of Chinese investors' inexperience at western deal-making, as some suggest (see the EconoMonitor link in the sources section below), or it may be because one of the types of Chinese investment triggers the economic xenophobia that causes Americans to think "foreigners" are buying out the country.

Chinese outflow investment can be either by private companies, or by the Chinese government. The government can invest through state-owned companies or through sovereign wealth funds (SWF).

Either way, that close government connection prompts American suspicions. Much like fears of the Soviet Union during the Cold War, Americans fear Chinese ulterior motives, anything from stealing business or government secrets to destabilizing the U.S. economy by investing heavily, then quickly withdrawing capital.

U.S. government pressure has resulted in the failure of several Chinese investment bids. The most famous -- or infamous -- of those is the 2005 attempt of the China National Offshore Oil Corporation (CNOOC) to buy the U.S. oil company Unocal.

American lawmakers worried about the lack of transparency of CNOOC ownership, and a Fox News quote by Gal Luft, director of the Institute for the Analysis of Global Security, revealed much about U.S. concerns. "It's not the government of Japan or France," Luft said. "We want to think about the fact that an American company falls in the hands of the Communist government of China."

In 2007 U.S. government opposition also shut down Chinese attempts to buy Maytag and make a partnership with 3Com. A Rand Corp study suggested that Huawei, the Chinese entity interested in 3Com, was closely tied to the Chinese military.:usflag:

FDI Between China and the U.S.

this Article can only sooth dumb Americans who think buying US land and buildings is like buying a country, they dont know what T-Bills are they dont know how US is indebted to chinese.
 
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this Article can only sooth dumb Americans who think buying US land and buildings is like buying a country, they dont know what T-Bills are they dont know how US is indebted to chinese.

We know a bit about debt, chief. Don't feel so smart... What people also forget is the U.S. has a lot of money out on 'the street', meaning we own a few dollars worth of other countries debt. And if you go by percentage of GDP, there are tons of countries much worse off than the U.S. Given our diverse economy, the U.S. has a much better ability to pay down our debt compared to these other debtors... ::bunny:


The TRUTH About Who Really Owns All Of America's Debt
Vincent Trivett |
Jul. 20, 2011, 1:50 PM

If you ever try comparing the debt situation in the US and Japan, someone will invariably say: Well, Japan can afford a lot more debt because it's all domestically owned, whereas US debt is owned by the Chinese.

It turns out this isn't really true, though unfortunately this destructive myth continues to dominate political/economic debates.

Yes, China holds a lot, but they're not dominant, and when you add it up, most debt is actually domestically held, just like in Japan.

Click here to see who owns American debt >

The TRUTH About Who Really Owns All Of America's Debt - Business Insider
 
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If you ever try comparing the debt situation in the US and Japan, someone will invariably say: Well, Japan can afford a lot more debt because it's all domestically owned, whereas US debt is owned by the Chinese.

It turns out this isn't really true, though unfortunately this destructive myth continues to dominate political/economic debates.

Exactly. But the question is, WHO is fueling these myths that China "owns" America?

I have lived in China my whole life and I have not seen ONE single Chinese person say such a thing, and the polls show that the majority of Chinese think that America still has the strongest economy in the world.

The only time I have heard this "myth" being propagated is when I watch Youtube and see clips of Fox News. Specifically from neo-Conservatives like Glenn Beck.

It's the American headlines and the American commentators who are saying all these things, not us.
 
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Exactly. But the question is, WHO is fueling these myths that China "owns" America?

I have lived in China my whole life and I have not seen ONE single Chinese person say such a thing, and the polls show that the majority of Chinese think that America still has the strongest economy in the world.

The only time I have heard this "myth" being propagated is when I watch Youtube and see clips of Fox News. Specifically from neo-Conservatives like Glenn Beck.

It's the American headlines and the American commentators who are saying all these things, not us.


Glenn Beck is a kook. He's fun to watch, but a kook.
 
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Exactly. But the question is, WHO is fueling these myths that China "owns" America?

I have lived in China my whole life and I have not seen ONE single Chinese person say such a thing, and the polls show that the majority of Chinese think that America still has the strongest economy in the world.

The only time I have heard this "myth" being propagated is when I watch Youtube and see clips of Fox News. Specifically from neo-Conservatives like Glenn Beck.

It's the American headlines and the American commentators who are saying all these things, not us.
That's why I don't listen to the media, I listen to the weather channel :bounce:
 
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You're making yourself look foolish with such an obvious lie.
If a young man can afford to go college in the US nourishment is the last of his concerns. So stop using personal experiences, like you always do, to justify your bashing.
Interesting. Perhaps some of my experiences are not representative of the whole. (As for the "afford to go college in the US" bit, this student arrived on a scholarship, not his own funds.)
 
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china is like a bank with too many bad loans. Customer is small then if he doesn't pay bank can show muscle. But here defaulting customer has bigger muscles. :-)
 
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Exactly. But the question is, WHO is fueling these myths that China "owns" America?

I have lived in China my whole life and I have not seen ONE single Chinese person say such a thing, and the polls show that the majority of Chinese think that America still has the strongest economy in the world.

The only time I have heard this "myth" being propagated is when I watch Youtube and see clips of Fox News. Specifically from neo-Conservatives like Glenn Beck.

It's the American headlines and the American commentators who are saying all these things, not us.
If you are one of those who believe that China can 'dump' US Treasury notes and therefore can 'collapse' the US economy, then you are one of those who believe the China 'owns' the US myth.
 
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Damn.. some chinese ball lickers must be feeling betrayed by the bonhomie between Chinese and Americans :lol:

ontopic : @bouncing betty : thanks dude for some insightful links :tup:
 
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Solomon, stick to bashing Pakistan on behalf of your fellow Jews, it seems to be the only thing you are good at.
Pakistanis don't necessarily need to be "bashed". They just need to wake up to the fact that the Jews of the Koran and political prejudice are to be distinguished from the people who call themselves "Jews" today. Then they can finally grasp reality and solve many of their domestic political problems.
 
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No Chinese ever said that "China owns US", it was the hysteria that was spouted by the US conversatives to prove how the Obama adminitration is weak and incompetent. :coffee:

Over 9000 posts and ur still claiming that? Just search the PDF for the awakening.
 
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On the contrary, China invests very heavily in the U.S. by sending so many of its students here. Though I suspect China could improve its returns if it fed its kids a little more - they seem to be malnourished, even starving, upon arrival. I recall one science student, it took over a month to get him up and running; he just couldn't stop thinking about his next meal.

Given the fact that Americans are getting fatter and fatter day by day, overwhelming majority of Chinese appear “starving and malnourished” . Big deal.

In contrast, I saw more than 100 instances that some American’s @ss is so huge that it burgeons up to their back shoulder... It’s so shocking! I feel bad for them. I feel they were abandoned by our government, by our democracy, by our own people. Somebody has to do something...

Back to the topic.

Well, it all depends on the politicians’ needs for their politics.

If the politicians feel the need to depict a threatening China for their political campaign purposes, they will throw out articles like “China own US”, “China military power”, etc.

If the politicians feel the urgency to depict a useless China for their political campaign purposes, they will throw out articles like “China investment in US blocked”, “China military power not to the level of Gulf war US”, etc.

This is how Panda Hugger and Dragon Slayer are utilized in US political arena.

This is democracy. More precisely, this is US democracy.

In US democracy, we have to learn to gather knowledge and to judge based on our analytical skills. Otherwise, the SA country biggest democracy will be any democracy’s failing destination.

So I'd say it is not The 'China Owns The U.S. ' MYTH EXPOSED, it is US politics myth exposed.
 
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Who owns America? Hint: It's not China

Editor's Note: The following piece comes from Global Post, which provides excellent coverage of world news - important, moving and odd.

By Tom Mucha, Global Post

Truth is elusive. But it's a good thing we have math.

Our friends at Business Insider know this, and put those two principles to work today in this excellent and highly informative little slideshow, made even more timely by the ongoing talks in Washington, D.C. aimed at staving off a U.S. debt default.

Here's the big idea:
Many people — politicians and pundits alike — prattle on that China and, to a lesser extent Japan, own most of America's $14.3 trillion in government debt.

But there's one little problem with that conventional wisdom: it's just not true. While the Chinese, Japanese and plenty of other foreigners own substantial amounts, it's really Americans who hold most of America's debt.

Here's a quick and fascinating breakdown by total amount held and percentage of total U.S. debt, according to Business Insider:



•Hong Kong: $121.9 billion (0.9 percent)
•Caribbean banking centers: $148.3 (1 percent)
•Taiwan: $153.4 billion (1.1 percent)
•Brazil: $211.4 billion (1.5 percent)
•Oil exporting countries: $229.8 billion (1.6 percent)
•Mutual funds: $300.5 billion (2 percent)
•Commercial banks: $301.8 billion (2.1 percent)
•State, local and federal retirement funds: $320.9 billion (2.2 percent)
•Money market mutual funds: $337.7 billion (2.4 percent)
•United Kingdom: $346.5 billion (2.4 percent)
•Private pension funds: $504.7 billion (3.5 percent)
•State and local governments: $506.1 billion (3.5 percent)
•Japan: $912.4 billion (6.4 percent)
•U.S. households: $959.4 billion (6.6 percent)
•China: $1.16 trillion (8 percent)
•The U.S. Treasury: $1.63 trillion (11.3 percent)
•Social Security trust fund: $2.67 trillion (19 percent)
So America owes foreigners about $4.5 trillion in debt. But America owes America $9.8 trillion.

For a smart take on how President Obama and House Republicans should end gridlock over debt and deficits, see our new GlobalPost series The Negotiator, which features Wharton's negotiation guru Stuart Diamond.

And to bone up on China's debt — another potentially big global economic headache — check out this interview with brainy-yet-coherent Northwestern University economist Victor Shih, who spoke with GlobalPost's David Case.

Who owns America? Hint: It's not China – Global Public Square - CNN.com Blogs

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This is only about T-bill, though.
 
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