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The 'China Owns The U.S. ' MYTH EXPOSED !

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FDI Between China And The United States
Not What Many People Expect

By Steve Jones, About.com Guide
Updated June 24, 2012

"FDI Between China And The United States"


Americans have long griped about "foreigners" taking over the country. In the 1970s they complained about Japanese buying up U.S. interests. More recently, the target of American worry has been China.

Certainly, the American and global media have made much of China's economic ascendancy (and many news outlets predicting the impending burst of the China "bubble"). U.S. President Barack Obama and his administration are also paying more attention to the Asia Pacific region as a result of the economic "China syndrome."

But is China really buying up the United States?

In a word -- no.

To be sure, China does invest in the United States, as do many other nations. That's called foreign direct investment, or FDI. As I've written elsewhere, FDI is an expected and desirable part of globalized economics.

FDI comes in two parts -- inflow and outflow. Inflow FDI is a foreign nation investing in a home nation; outflow FDI is a home nation investing in a foreign nation. For instance, outflow FDI from the U.S. might allow investors to take advantage of foreign labor or resources. Inflow FDI from a foreign nation to the U.S. could provide capital that stimulates production and wages.

EconoMonitor reports that, in 2010, Chinese entities invested $3.2 billion in the United States. On the other hand, American entities invested $60.5 billion in China.

According to the UCLA Asian American Studies Center, FDI from all investors into China in 2007 was about $82 billion, while outflow was only $20 billion. As of 2006, China had invested a total of some $600 million in the U.S. compared to U.S. investments of more than $22 billion in China.
Reasons For Limited Chinese FDI

Okay, so the American masses can relax -- China is not buying out the United States. It's not even in the top eight foreign investors in the U.S., which in 2010 were Switzerland, the United Kingdom, Japan, France, Germany, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, and Canada.

Nevertheless, Chinese entities want to invest more in the U.S., and those 2010 investment numbers represent a 172% increase over 2009.

Chinese FDI into the United States may be low because of Chinese investors' inexperience at western deal-making, as some suggest (see the EconoMonitor link in the sources section below), or it may be because one of the types of Chinese investment triggers the economic xenophobia that causes Americans to think "foreigners" are buying out the country.

Chinese outflow investment can be either by private companies, or by the Chinese government. The government can invest through state-owned companies or through sovereign wealth funds (SWF).

Either way, that close government connection prompts American suspicions. Much like fears of the Soviet Union during the Cold War, Americans fear Chinese ulterior motives, anything from stealing business or government secrets to destabilizing the U.S. economy by investing heavily, then quickly withdrawing capital.

U.S. government pressure has resulted in the failure of several Chinese investment bids. The most famous -- or infamous -- of those is the 2005 attempt of the China National Offshore Oil Corporation (CNOOC) to buy the U.S. oil company Unocal.

American lawmakers worried about the lack of transparency of CNOOC ownership, and a Fox News quote by Gal Luft, director of the Institute for the Analysis of Global Security, revealed much about U.S. concerns. "It's not the government of Japan or France," Luft said. "We want to think about the fact that an American company falls in the hands of the Communist government of China."

In 2007 U.S. government opposition also shut down Chinese attempts to buy Maytag and make a partnership with 3Com. A Rand Corp study suggested that Huawei, the Chinese entity interested in 3Com, was closely tied to the Chinese military.:usflag:

FDI Between China and the U.S.
 
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Why would we want to buy out the United States? :lol:

We are focused on investing in "developing" countries.

Those are the ones that actually give a high return, often in the double-digits.


It's called 'stability'. Those double digit returns ALWAYS come with elevated risks. You don't get something for nothing.



Plus..."...Nevertheless, Chinese entities want to invest more in the U.S., and those 2010 investment numbers represent a 172% increase over 2009...."
 
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It's called 'stability'. Those double digit returns ALWAYS come with elevated risks. You don't get something for nothing.



Plus..."...Nevertheless, Chinese entities want to invest more in the U.S., and those 2010 investment numbers represent a 172% increase over 2009...."

Stability? Have you heard of the Credit Crunch?

And yes, in investment... risk is correlated to reward. If you want the big rewards, then you have to take the risk, though risks should always be calculated.

And our currency reserves are $3.2 trillion. There are plenty of places in the world to invest in, that will actually provide a good return, as well as give us access to resources at the same time.
 
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Why would we want to buy out the United States? :lol:

We are focused on investing in "developing" countries.

Those are the ones that actually give a high return, often in the double-digits.


Personally I don't think China should invest too much in the US. When Japan's private groups bought up many US properties, especially the likes of Empire State Building and some islands in Hawaii, in the 70s they received so much animosities and bashing from the American politicians, medias and the public, the atmosphere was very ugly. If China does the same it probably will be worst.

China's investment in the third world has a two fold advantages. Besides the returns could be higher, of course take the risk factors into consideration, the gains of political capitals can be boundless. To be a strong country, politically and economically, you need as many allies and trading partners as possible.
 
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No Chinese ever said that "China owns US", it was the hysteria that was spouted by the US conversatives to show how the Obama adminitration is weak and incompetent. :coffee:


You can find PLENTY of Pakistanis ( Aryan B to name one) and others on this site who like to perpetuate this myth because they somehow think they are 'poking the Great Satan' in the eye. They couldn't be FURTHER from the truth. :woot:
 
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You can find PLENTY of Pakistanis ( Aryan B to name one) and others on this site who like to perpetuate this myth because they somehow think they are 'poking the Great Satan' in the eye. They couldn't be FURTHER from the truth. :woot:

So what does that have to do with us?

And what's your problem with Aryan B, are you a previously banned user in a new account?
 
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So what does that have to do with us?

I never said it had anything to do with anyone. I just posted the article. I never asked you to post anything.

And what's your problem with Aryan B, are you a previously banned user in a new account?

I don't like him. He only posts anti-American crap yet NEVER gets sh!t for trolling. Nope.
 
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Ouch. That was painful.

LOL, when we buy up American companies, the Neo-Conservatives go crazy and start ranting about how China is "buying up America".

When it turns out that Chinese investment in America is actually very low, you guys feel hurt that you're not a preferred destination for our investment. :P

It's better to invest in places where you can get a higher return, the USA knows this since it has been investing in China for exactly that reason.
 
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Now, that may strike most Americans as a “You must be kidding story”. But in fact it is true.


You must be kidding me is probably right.
 
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When it turns out that Chinese investment in America is actually very low, you guys feel hurt that you're not a preferred destination for our investment.
On the contrary, China invests very heavily in the U.S. by sending so many of its students here. Though I suspect China could improve its returns if it fed its kids a little more - they seem to be malnourished, even starving, upon arrival. I recall one science student, it took over a month to get him up and running; he just couldn't stop thinking about his next meal.
 
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On the contrary, China invests very heavily in the U.S. by sending so many of its students here. Though I suspect China could improve its returns if it fed its kids a little more - they seem to be malnourished, even starving, upon arrival. I recall one science student, it took over a month to get him up and running; he just couldn't stop thinking about his next meal.


You don't know how silly you sound without any basic facts to back it up. If a young man can afford to go college in the US nourishment is the last of his concerns. So stop using personal experiences, like you always do, to justify your bashing. They make you look stupid for people in the knows.
 
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