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The brave General Raheel Sharif

Indians talking about war since 2001, 2008, with their Airforce wondering why LCA should be inducted or why Su30 thinks it is appropriate to eject the pilots out....M2K undergoing upgrades and Indians want to 'surgical strike' a nation whose nuclear arsenal was only made for one purpose: Complete annihilation of the Hindustan.
Nice. Indians always go full retard.



And no one in the world gives a cahoot about Indian reservations. Dawood Ibrahim is still as elusive to India as that superpower dream. And they want a full out war.
On one hand you claim we have hundreds of RAW agents operating in Pakistan and then again you say Dawood is elusive to us....
if we do have hundreds of agents then all it will take is an political will to hunt that terrorist....I m sure we can find a sniper among the lot.....Regarding the world giving a cahoot.....yep the world does fcuking care when we are speaking...

Superpower is a dream as of now....that I can agree
Do not under estimate the opponent is the first lesson that is given.

The gap can increase but it should not be taken to a point where the other is too cornered because that is the time time for it to pounce and the most aggressive.

In case of a full blown war between Pakistan and India none would survive. Still Hindu state would be the worst hit because it would not survive where as Muslim states would still exist else where.


LOL
Well every thing today has some ones vested interest. The question is how well one is balancing all the interests by keeping all of them happy and interested?
Are you implying that we shouldn't progress because the gap is increasing
Ok lol :D
 
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Are you implying that we shouldn't progress because the gap is increasing
Ok lol :D
Time ticks forward...Progress is being achieved by both countries. JF-17 is a reality LCA is still under going final approvals. Rafael deal done still waiting for first delivery, Pakistan gets some more F-16 it would be at par.Soon one might hear some new deals made for PAF, PA and PN.
 
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Good for you :enjoy:
Time ticks forward...Progress is being achieved by both countries. JF-17 is a reality LCA is still under going final approvals. Rafael deal done still waiting for first delivery, Pakistan gets some more F-16 it would be at par.Soon one might hear some new deals made for PAF, PA and PN.
 
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You know when psychotic episodes starts from.....when someone starts answering questions from himself which are raised from the shitty ideas generated by holding up you farts for a long time....whatever our General is doing is best in the interest of our security of our country you %%S**LE....you Indians really believe that the General of your enemy will take such measures which shall be in the best interest of your country ??? Delusions usually occur due to the psychotic episodes....you guys need to check out your entire digestive system...i recommend Bharat Rakhshak or Defence Forum of India are best suited for your one sided shitty ideas...!!:coffee::coffee:

it is clear you have been inhaling a bit much and it is useless to try and bring any semblance of rationality when you are in that condition. But I will indulge you just once.

Your general does not have to mean to take decisions that harm your own country - he does that because of misplaced priorities and/or lack of objectivity. In the case of Raheel Sharief he has been unable to hold his tongue due to letting his personal passion from 1971 loss get the better of him. In that state he is not evaluating facts on their face; plus he has started opening his mouth before saner voices, if any, can prevail. THAT is usually recipe for disaster.

Pakistan especially is not new to this. Almost everyone one of your generals have succumbed to this disease and the results are what you see in present conditions of Pakistan.

There you have it - the causes, the mistakes and the effects. If you still don't get it, I cannot help you any further
 
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it is clear you have been inhaling a bit much and it is useless to try and bring any semblance of rationality when you are in that condition. But I will indulge you just once.

Your general does not have to mean to take decisions that harm your own country - he does that because of misplaced priorities and/or lack of objectivity. In the case of Raheel Sharief he has been unable to hold his tongue due to letting his personal passion from 1971 loss get the better of him. In that state he is not evaluating facts on their face; plus he has started opening his mouth before saner voices, if any, can prevail. THAT is usually recipe for disaster.

Pakistan especially is not new to this. Almost everyone one of your generals have succumbed to this disease and the results are what you see in present conditions of Pakistan.

There you have it - the causes, the mistakes and the effects. If you still don't get it, I cannot help you any further
No body here has asked you for any help from the self proclaimed black and white fallacies....Sooner you guys can come outa that sweet memories of 71 by soaking your beds again & again....better it would be in future...Neither the baby like you on PDF can evaluate and whine here about objectivity and misplaced priorities...!! These generals have been involved in direct hand to hand battle in WOT...they are focused, crystal clear about their goals, aims and ambitions...!! Don't try to comment on something like a judge about which you don't have got a single dam clue...!!! Keep on enjoying your own version of realities..!! Chill..!!
 
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No body here has asked you for any help from the self proclaimed black and white fallacies....Sooner you guys can come outa that sweet memories of 71 by soaking your beds again & again....better it would be in future...Neither the baby like you on PDF can evaluate and whine here about objectivity and misplaced priorities...!! These generals have been involved in direct hand to hand battle in WOT...they are focused, crystal clear about their goals, aims and ambitions...!! Don't try to comment on something like a judge about which you don't have got a single dam clue...!!! Keep on enjoying your own version of realities..!! Chill..!!

You are making my point. At some level you have to see things in black and white. That is a necessity for military leaders, otherwise they end up becoming dirty politicians. Which is what Raheel Sharief is beginning to sound like. That unfortunately is the curse on Pakistan - every military leader ends up becoming this way and the country digs it deeper for itself...anyway, as you said, nobody asked for my help.
 
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You are making my point. At some level you have to see things in black and white. That is a necessity for military leaders, otherwise they end up becoming dirty politicians. Which is what Raheel Sharief is beginning to sound like. That unfortunately is the curse on Pakistan - every military leader ends up becoming this way and the country digs it deeper for itself...anyway, as you said, nobody asked for my help.
You guys can't rid of the past don't you.....showing utmost impotency.....always looking with your own self constructed assumptious glasses...and than worst of all deducting conclusions in the end....welcome to 2015....where Pakistan is still strong and alive ( totally unlike Indian false propaganda) and whom civil and military leadership is on single page and single ambitions, aims and objectives....2015 which we have a breathing economy with growing GDP and with marvelous economic prospects....sooner you guys could at least try to gulp down the design of progressive, rapidly developing Pakistan in the upcoming decade...better it would be you and your own policy makers...otherwise have nice bedtime stories for catharsis so that you won't have to visit PDF again and again...!!:sarcastic::kiss3:
 
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one of the best chief of staff pakistan ever seen all others were just doing jobs and salaries thats it ayub khan was great too other than those all are selfish
 
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Sorry to burst your bubble, but you don't own Kashmir! You never did and never will! Period! :nono:

According to the Chatham House poll conducted in J&K which included Azad Kashmir.....

95% of Kashmiris want nothing to do with Pakistan.

80% in Azad Kashmir want Pakistan to withdraw its troops from 'Azad' Kashmir. Along with demilitarization, there is a clear demand for de-weaponization (more than 80 percent).

90% Kashmiris want an end to militant violence propagated from Pakistan.

70% Kashmiris in Azad Kashmir want independence from Pak rule.

Mohamad Junaid: What Does the Chatham House Poll in Kashmir Tell Us? | Kafila
seriously!!! they feed you with such info.I found Kashmiris to be more patriotic and most of them choose Armed forces as profession.So you better come out of this dream and face the reality that they Kashmir's hate India .
 
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Had he been on a beneficial extension or counting his days to retirement, I wouldn’t have expected him to speak out. But he is a man on a mission. Thus far, no military commander has so bluntly and so directly accused the Indian intelligence agency, RAW (it’s usually a veiled reference to ‘foreign governments and intelligence agencies’) of “whipping up terrorism in Pakistan”. This is General Raheel Sharif for you — a very popular military leader, who since the time he has taken over the military leadership, has turned the war on terror on its head with some remarkable military victories against terrorists under his belt already. To showcase his case as a military leader, he is determined to take back what the terrorists stole from his country — peace and tranquillity.

So for the general to accuse RAW of whipping up terrorism in Pakistan, not once but twice (the last time he did this was during his visit to Balochistan on April 15 where he warned “foreign governments and intelligence agencies” against their involvement in the insurgency there) should be seen in line with the policy of the Pakistani government which is “to do everything possible to take the war on terror to its logical conclusion”. RAW and its activities stand out predominantly in the cross hairs of the military’s anti-terrorism sight. It’s marked and like all ‘shadow and invisible wars’ that intelligence agencies fight, the Pakistani military’s twin response of both ‘detection’ and ‘elimination’ of this threat will now not only gain momentum but speed as well.

Over the years, India has successfully built a narrative that it is a victim of Pakistan-sponsored terrorism. It is under the guise of such a narrative that the Indians have tried to block the worldview of their own intelligence agency planning, rolling out and executing terrorism as an instrument of its own state policy to destabilise Pakistan. No intelligence agency will ever undertake any cross-border actions in a neighbouring country without the political approval of its government. The host government not only defines the endpoint in the targeted country but also sets the limits (red lines) to its intelligence agencies’ reach. RAW’s actions in Pakistan have a definite political end and the planners and executors of such an end are not those who wear uniforms but are the people’s representatives who have been voted to power in the largest democracy in the world. Those in doubt of such an assessment can view Indian National Security Adviser Ajit Doval’s remarks almost a year ago about the Indian strategy to weaken Pakistan by promoting terrorism and separatism. The political shame that the planners and executors of such wars bring is that neither these proxy wars can be completely won nor those against which they are waged can be entirely defeated.

Even if I hypothetically assume that the state of Pakistan was involved in the Mumbai tragedy of 2008, what has India been able to do about it? Seven years later, Pakistan is still resolutely fighting to reverse the Indian-recommended, directed and imposed international isolation of Pakistan. The Pakistani national resolve and resilience coupled with an efficient military campaign against the terrorists has forced world opinion to retreat and take a backseat. We may have been accused of keeping ‘snakes in our backyard’ but the same country that levelled these accusations is now giving us the military machine to target these snakes. Our international isolation may top the Indian wish list but China stands with us not only as a partner in economic development but also as a great ally against any security threats that we may face. The warming of our relations with Afghanistan and the fact that now Afghan Army cadets are being trained in the Pakistan Military Academy speaks of the failure of the huge number of Indian consulates in Afghanistan to sell and market their anti-Pakistan narrative to Afghan President Ashraf Ghani. Our cricketers may also have been deprived of participation in the Indian Premier League but we have struggled along to now host Zimbabwe as the first team since 2009 to visit and play international matches in the country. The lesson is for all to see — we may stumble and fall, but we will rise again.

RAW-generated activities stem from the tacit understanding that the harmful consequences of fighting a legitimate war are far too many and what covert actions can achieve today, overt (direct confrontation) cannot. If General Raheel says that “RAW is whipping up terrorism in Pakistan”, it is not with an expectation that such a disclosure will force the Indian intelligence agency to limit its operations in Pakistan. It is to warn India not to provoke a reactive policy from Pakistan as the country will not sit with its hands tied. Pakistan may have withdrawn its policy of actively supporting the Kashmir cause but it still has interest and influence there. India may come to regret provoking a reactive policy by Pakistan. The tit-for-tat response may well be a contingency being considered in this ‘shadow war’ being imposed by the Indians on us. The big question is: is India miscalculating our response? Is Pakistan being considered too weak and too vulnerable a state?

Like militaries, intelligence agencies are never dealt massive defeats. The shadow wars fought by them are always won or lost by following the principle, ‘if you stab our back we will stab yours’. It’s the job of the politicians never to publicly acclaim the achievements of intelligence agencies and it is also their job to publicly disavow all allegations leveled against them. The most important job that Indian politics, led by the Modi government, is failing to do is to settle all outstanding issues with Pakistan through a process of dialogue. The continuity of the policy of fighting proxy wars is a failed policy. Its only eventual outcome can be to put the two countries in direct confrontation. This is something both countries should not desire.
(The writer is a retired lieutenant colonel of the Pakistan Army and is currently pursuing PhD in civil-military relations from the University of Karachi)
The brave General Raheel Sharif - The Express Tribune


name one army chief who has not been praised during their tenure
 
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