The Bible Thumpers of America: A Grave Danger to the World!

[Meengla]

Just returning home from a night out. At a restaurant, saw a bizarre sight on a TV screen: An 'Evangelical Christian' TV show on. Such things had never been seen by me in public places. They are a disgusting and frightening sights. Anyone who has lived in America and has seen such shows would know what I mean.

The show was entirely focused on supporting Israel. I didn't have the audio but I could fairly guess the messages: Of supporting the Jews, with the ultimate sinister goal of some Rapture doctrines.

The world must know about these twisted souls! They, in my opinion, are more dangerous to the world peace then any ISIS or Al-Qaida or some Communist Party could be. Why? Because they have about 20% of a solid, reliable, hitherto immutable vote bank in America which influences the American policies a lot--much to the detriment of America's own long term goals.

Israelis milk these Evangelical Suckers for whatever they are worth!
Just watch some of the visuals! They are not far from the likes of Pakistan's own Khadim Rizvi or some similar counter parts in other religions.

 

[vi-va]

Funny thing Trump seldom read so called Bible, nor go to church. Just fool those dumb around.

Donald Trump unable to name one verse from "favourite book" The Bible

 

[Yaseen1]

there are two groups of christans,one that have friendship with jews and Holy Quran Has prohibited making friendship with them,the other group of christans who have regard of humanity and justice and not support israel and we are allowed to have friendship with them,also they are praised in Holy Quran.Those neocon christans who rule u.s belong to the group which cannot be regarded as friends of Muslims

 

[Meengla]

Funny thing Trump seldom read so called Bible, nor go to church. Just fool those dumb around.

Correct.
Trump is as FAR from religion as it can over come. Honestly, I can't think of any American President in my memory--from Bill Clinton through Trump--who were so thoroughly detached from Christianity.

And, yet, it suits the Bible Thumpers, to co-op this guy to fulfill their own fantastic goals!!

Stupid, stupid, stupid! And millions of Americans--by my reckoning--about 20% of Americans--who'd vote in a block for a certain political line. That is a very dangerous demographic for the world peace. At least the world must know about a fifth of Americans--the mightiest military power in the world history--is influenced by fanatics like the ISIS or AlQaida or similar ones.

 

[Dalit]

These Evangelicals are scumbags. Especially in the US. They worship Israel.

 

[Meengla]

there are two groups of christans,one that have friendship with jews and Holy Quran Has prohibited making friendship with them,the other group of christans who have regard of humanity and justice and not support israel and we are allowed to have friendship with them,also they are praised in Holy Quran.Those neocon christans who rule u.s belong to the group which cannot be regarded as friends of Muslims

Absolutely. And in that regard I have found that Catholicism, led by the Papacy itself, to be far more inclusive of Muslims and harsh against Israeli policies. And BTW, many European govts and European citizens are not so in bed with Israel. There is no 'West' supporting Israel. Basically it's the very powerful Lobbies in America, backed by the Evangelical Christians, in alliance with the Military Industrial Complex.

Alas, but that's where it matters the most, is America and that's where the fanatics, led by the Evangelical Christians, are a powerful force. Their influence is poisonous in the Middle East but these same groups are also for more muscular American foreign policies that have implications far from the American shores. Plus I suspect many American churches are in bed with the Military Industrial Complex but I have not seen any studies for such claim.

Having lived in the Deep South most of my life, where every 4th or 5th household has some 'veteran' and the enthusiasm for wars and God, there has to be some connection.

For the world peace, the poison of the American Evangelical Churches must be exposed and countered. They are not so hidden. The last night's display on the public tv was just one manifestation of their reach and persistence.

 

[PakFactor]

Absolutely. And in that regard I have found that Catholicism, led by the Papacy itself, to be far more inclusive of Muslims and harsh against Israeli policies. And BTW, many European govts and European citizens are not so in bed with Israel. There is no 'West' supporting Israel. Basically it's the very powerful Lobbies in America, backed by the Evangelical Christians, in alliance with the Military Industrial Complex.

Alas, but that's where it matters the most, is America and that's where the fanatics, led by the Evangelical Christians, are a powerful force. Their influence is poisonous in the Middle East but these same groups are also for more muscular American foreign policies that have implications far from the American shores. Plus I suspect many American churches are in bed with the Military Industrial Complex but I have not seen any studies for such claim.

Having lived in the Deep South most of my life, where every 4th or 5th household has some 'veteran' and the enthusiasm for wars and God, there has to be some connection.

For the world peace, the poison of the American Evangelical Churches must be exposed and countered. They are not so hidden. The last night's display on the public tv was just one manifestation of their reach and persistence.

Trump knowing or not knowing the Bible or religious doctrine isn't the concern along with these Bible Thumpers -- however, those who use Christianity as a shield mixed with nationalism is the concern because this is a new breed of danger because these sort of groups have no boundary at all. They are more dangerous because they can rally the other 20% on a whim to suit their needs.

There are groups that have been trying to expose these people but often times they are brushed aside as the Zionist lobby uses this support to further their own agenda -- their sole purpose to try and bring the Messiah as quick as they can though can't be stopped if God ordained it but they are creating a self inflicted wound on this world.

 

[Meengla]

They are more dangerous because they can rally the other 20% on a whim to suit their needs.

Yes and that's a key number! In American Presidential Elections, even a few thousand votes in 'swing states' matter a lot. Now imagine 20% of the American population, voting as a block and with a determination which only the zealots can come up with! The nasty, poisonous Evangelical Christians are MORE dangerous than even ISIS or Al Qaida to the world because the E.C are actively working for some Biblical destructive prophesy to be fulfilled in the Middle East. They have the $$, the connections, the numbers, and the determination to influence American elections and thus American foreign policies.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

there are two groups of christans,one that have friendship with jews and Holy Quran Has prohibited making friendship with them,the other group of christans who have regard of humanity and justice and not support israel and we are allowed to have friendship with them,also they are praised in Holy Quran.Those neocon christans who rule u.s belong to the group which cannot be regarded as friends of Muslims

Stop listening to Imran N Hosein. That man is a quack and not a scholar.

There is only one type of Christian, they are mentioned in the Quran and given respect in Islamic fiqh.

According to Dr. Israr, Evangelicals are actually Yahood, i.e. Zionists, because politically they always support Israel and envy Jews.

They are a large backbone of the US which makes up the Republican party (Neocons, Teapartiers,) local gov, police, military, and intelligence.

I have had debates with them many times, even gone to their churches to speak with their leaders. After a while, I stopped, because I realized that they have zero compassion or humanity for anyone. It is a toxic mix of white racism, nationalism, capitalist chauvinism, and extremism.

 

[Meengla]

It is a toxic mix of white racism, nationalism, capitalist chauvinism, and extremism.

That is indeed true! Nicely put. Anyone who wants destruction of this world for some 'Rapture' fantasy and is actively working to achieve those goals, and has enormous power, is a menace to the global peace.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

That is indeed true! Nicely put. Anyone who wants destruction of this world for some 'Rapture' fantasy and is actively working to achieve those goals, and has enormous power, is a menace to the global peace.

The most obscene belief they hold is the prosperity gospel which borders on hedonism and ego-worship.

They believe those who are financially, socially elevated are blessed by God and superior to those who are not.

According to them, America is the wealthiest society on Earth because of being Gods's chosen ones and all others are despised by God and cursed.

Naturally they use this to support Israel also, saying Arabs are poor and cursed, not worthy to be shown and compassion or mercy.

This ideology flies in the face of basic teachings of the Bible and Hazrat Isa/Jesus AS who always favored the poor and marginalized.

 

[Meengla]

I have debates with them many times, even gone to their churches to speak with their leaders.

Good. It's good to interact with people of all kinds to broaden out horizons.
I too had visited churches a few times in America. Was well received. They would have loved to 'convert' me. More than once, people asked me to recite words like '... I accept Jesus Christ as my Savior' to get 'peace of mind' etc. I could even sense 'honey traps' with available ladies!

But I also detected genuine compassion. Sure, there were hypocrites but then we all know that Pakistan is also full of hypocrite Muslims.

My beef is strictly against those who want the destruction of this world, as I said above. This life, this world, this planet is a Gift. Nobody takes it from us human beings because some book supposedly said that!

 

[Dragon of Bosnia]

These are people without empathy, their hearts are blind. After the end of the war in Bosnia their missionary organizations tried to convert us to christianity, although we experienced terrible pogroms from those same Christians (although from Orthodox and Catholic), we still exhumed our dead from mass graves, treated the wounded from concentration camps and the disabled, raised our homes from the rubble...

 

[Meengla]

These are people without empathy, their hearts are blind. After the end of the war in Bosnia their missionary organizations tried to convert us to christianity, although we experienced terrible pogroms from those same Christians (although from Orthodox and Catholic), we still exhumed our dead from mass graves, treated the wounded from concentration camps and the disabled, raised our homes from the rubble...

That was a terrible war.
I still find it hard to believe that the massacre of Srebrenica was allowed when it was under the UN protection. In a continent which had barely 40 years before said 'Never Again'.

 

[rent4country]

Just returning home from a night out. At a restaurant, saw a bizarre sight on a TV screen: An 'Evangelical Christian' TV show on. Such things had never been seen by me in public places. They are a disgusting and frightening sights. Anyone who has lived in America and has seen such shows would know what I mean.

The show was entirely focused on supporting Israel. I didn't have the audio but I could fairly guess the messages: Of supporting the Jews, with the ultimate sinister goal of some Rapture doctrines.

The world must know about these twisted souls! They, in my opinion, are more dangerous to the world peace then any ISIS or Al-Qaida or some Communist Party could be. Why? Because they have about 20% of a solid, reliable, hitherto immutable vote bank in America which influences the American policies a lot--much to the detriment of America's own long term goals.

Israelis milk these Evangelical Suckers for whatever they are worth!
Just watch some of the visuals! They are not far from the likes of Pakistan's own Khadim Rizvi or some similar counter parts in other religions.

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Did you just say people on TV, our bit over the top Christians, are more dangerous than ISIS and AL Queda?

*Looks around the world and checks where and whom terrorism is emanating from, and shakes head*