The beginning of TR public turning against Iran because of support of PKK

[Serpentine]

I don't know what are you expecting ? as I said should I send a Heron to check it ? all I'm saying its clearly known that "routes" and "strike locations" shows that they can only come from Iranian side.

When you claim something,you should be able to present it with facts and evidence.If you say the routes show they come from Iran,simply bring a map of Iran-Turkey border,show the strike points of PKK and clarify how it's so obvious that they came from Iran.You are just claiming these things bonly because 1 or 2 Turkish officials have said that,as always,without proof.

 

[Targon]

Its shown in the map but If I bring the Turkish video will you understand anything ?

 

[Worf]

There are many PKK camps in the Iran; the most recently known is the Şehidan camp.

Sabah English
In A Stern Warning, Turkey Says It Will Do 'Whatever Is Required' Against Iran
Turkey says it will do
PKK moves to terror camp in Iran to attack Turkish targets
Camps built in Germany, Austria to win new members for PKK, reports reveal

I don't need to write much when there are many sources in the internet to look at. Don't be limited with the links i provided; feel free to research.

I found these links in 5 minutes; thats how easy it is to research.

When you claim something,you should be able to present it with facts and evidence.If you say the routes show they come from Iran,simply bring a map of Iran-Turkey border,show the strike points of PKK and clarify how it's so obvious that they came from Iran.You are just claiming these things bonly because 1 or 2 Turkish officials have said that,as always,without proof.

Similary you should be able to present evidence that Iran is not funding the PKK indirectly or directly. I am not even talking about the camps in Iran because every one knows that the EX PJAK camps are in the control of the PKK.

 

[Killuminati]

When you claim something,you should be able to present it with facts and evidence.If you say the routes show they come from Iran,simply bring a map of Iran-Turkey border,show the strike points of PKK and clarify how it's so obvious that they came from Iran.You are just claiming these things bonly because 1 or 2 Turkish officials have said that,as always,without proof.

By retired Maj. Gen. Osman Pamukoglu:

But as he said, if Turkey support almost every US politics in the middle-east that are agains Iran to, why shouldnt Iran allow PKK to attack Turkey from their ground? When Turkey arming FSA to create more chaos and blood agains a friend of Iran there is no problem..

 

[atatwolf]

There are PKK camps oppened in Iran. These couldn't be opened if Iran didn't allow it. SO..

1. Iran is turning blind eye to PKK camps
2. Iran is supplying and helping PKK and turning blind eye

Either way Iran is going into dangerous unknown seas which such a bold move. We Turks are neutral in US-Israel vs Iran conflict. I think this should change. But at the last moment which will be a surpise. We should do anything that is necessary to neutralize current Irani government.

If 30 million Azeri Turks know what Iran government is doing to Turkey this will add another twist to Iran's position. At this point U.S and Israel should attack, take control of their airspace and eliminating any resistance with brute force. Then if necessary Turkey should execute attack if Azeri Turks are getting killed in Iran. Turks definately won't watch such massacres happing like it is happening in Syria. Turks never watch Turks getting massacred.

We shouldn't only interfere from a moral standpoint but also because Iran is responsible for the recent PKK attacks and deaths of young Turkish soldiers. We really shouldn't hold back to crush any resistance with insurence of the west, we can take the risk of demolishing Irani regime and changing the governence to local Azeri Turks in west-Iran.

 

[Ottoman-Turk]

So according to your friends,PKK,the pawn of America,also the enemy of Iran,is supported by Iran.seems legit.
Why?Just because Turkish government do not have the courage to declare it can't deal with PKK and blames it on it's only remaining friend neighboring country,Iran.

only remaning friendly , your such a joke , whos irans friends armenia ? hahaha , lebanon? we are 1000x more respected than you in the world . We are dealing very well with PKK but good luck with PJAK , JUNDALLAH AND OTHER SEPERATISTS . BE CAREFUL THERE ARE 30,000,000 TURKS IN IRAN.

let me ask what is iran known for politically in the world? exporting terrorism i think will be the answer.

 

[Pahlevan]

Good luck with your detailed plan. Hopefully Erdogan is a reader of this website and picks up on and implements your idea! But in the meantime be careful. These are very tough times in terms of Turkey's sovereignty. All over western and middle eastern news they are talking about how Turkey may be split. So I would worry about the future of your own country rather then that of others.

 

[Targon]

We're ok don't worry.

 

[Ottoman-Turk]

When you ignoring several millions Kurds in Turkey , then you have to say "they will come from Iran .... "

I think Turkey really overestimate himself .... if we want to armed PKK , then turkey would dream to have some group like hezbollah as his enemy ....

compare to Hezbollah , arming PKK would be easy task for us ....

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and it is a really old propaganda war , but you are rookie in this compare to Western media ....

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Wise people using their mind and will understand that Iran won't help Americans/Israelis separatism groups but dumb people will only saying what their sick heart desire it ....

Turks are you really become upset after all these years your master still supporting your enemy !?

1. You export terrorism , but your economy is still half turkey with one of the biggest oil and gas


2. You export terrorism , but you cant finish PJAK and JUNDALLAH not to mention others that can erupt , while no other ethnic problem can erupt because the ethnicity is clear , Turks like 80% and Kurds the rest around 20% , very very little thousands of armenians and others . While you have arabs , very big number of turks , turkmens , afshar turks , kurds .

3. We dont overestimate ourselves or anything . Your kind of mentality is like oh USA cant beat Taliban while they are giving 50x casualty . For you people killing innocent and civilians is a acheivement.

 

[Killuminati]

27 countries including Cuba, Venezuela, Russia, China at the Iran meeting voted agains any foreign millitary action on Syria. Also they keep Turkey and Saudie Arabia responsable for supporting and arming terrorists in Syria. Turkey was not invited for the meeting.

This shows again how bad our foreing policiy is and that we made more enemies than friends around us. Bad relations now with Iran, Syrian and Iraqi governments.

 

[Ottoman-Turk]

27 countries including Cuba, Venezuela, Russia, China at the Iran meeting voted agains any foreign millitary action on Syria. Also they keep Turkey and Saudie Arabia responsable for supporting and arming terrorists in Syria. Turkey was not invited for the meeting.

This shows again how bad our foreing policiy is and that we made more enemies than friends around us. Bad relations now with Iran, Syrian and Iraqi governments.

Then for your holidays go to iran. and get a iran passport. We dont give a damn about them . Where was russia china cuba venezuela when they sanctioned iran to bits.

 

[Alienoz_TR]

- Azeris of Iran wont do a damn thing about it. They are the ones who profit from business mostly. Any ethnic conflict within the borders of Iran make them poor. That they would not want to see.

- For Kurds, there are no borders. They come and go as please, carry illegal goods on donkeys.

Good luck with your detailed plan. Hopefully Erdogan is a reader of this website and picks up on and implements your idea!

Erdogan is someone who mixes personal matters into politics. You can be sure that in case of Iran showdown, Erdogan will give support to his western allies. Ahmedinejad made a mistake by making him angry. Not that i support Erdogan or something. It is something that i laugh at most.

When you live almost your entire life under the threat of separatism, hearing stories from friends how they blew up a terrorist with RPG-7 or treachery of locals etc, then you get used to it. Turk-Kurd struggle is 500 years old, starting with the date 1514. It wont be solved in my lifetime, nor my grandchildren's. I am confident that smart jews wont be staying enough in ME to see the end of it.

 

[Serpentine]

Similary you should be able to present evidence that Iran is not funding the PKK indirectly or directly. I am not even talking about the camps in Iran because every one knows that the EX PJAK camps are in the control of the PKK.

I don't need to present anything.I think you are the ones who are claiming Iran is supporing pkk,when you claim something at first,you should be able to deny it.
It's like I say Turkey is supporting A-lQaeda and ask you prove I'm wrong.

only remaning friendly , your such a joke , whos irans friends armenia ? hahaha , lebanon? we are 1000x more respected than you in the world . We are dealing very well with PKK but good luck with PJAK , JUNDALLAH AND OTHER SEPERATISTS . BE CAREFUL THERE ARE 30,000,000 TURKS IN IRAN.

Ottoman-Turk: You are famous on this forum for your ignorance,even between your Turkish compatriots.
So no need for any response to your non sense.

 

[Ottoman-Turk]

The fact that some braindeads dont understand is we are neither iraq , nor libya , nor syria , we had these lands for 1000 years since 1071.

Every TURK , no matter who is in government will support the Country and wipe out any Terrorist.

1071-2012 still here will be here.

 

[Killuminati]

Then for your holidays go to iran. and get a iran passport. We dont give a damn about them . Where was russia china cuba venezuela when they sanctioned iran to bits.

How you mean where was Russia china etc. on the sanctions? They where agains it. The real hypocritical act is that u voting agains sactions on Iran but after that placing a radar/missile shields towards Iran.

No they are actually secret aliens...

where is our Turkish thread i want to post some Turkish news =S