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30 Militants Killed In FR Peshawar Search Ops

PESHAWAR, Pakistan, Sept 21, 2010 (AFP) - At least 30 militants and three policemen were killed in a "search operation" in a semi-tribal area of northwest Pakistan, police said Tuesday.

The casualties occurred during a joint army, paramilitary and police operation against militants who were attacking local peace committee members and were involved in kidnap-for-ransom.

Peace committees are groups of local volunteers who help authorities battle militants and criminal gangs.

"Since Saturday night at least 30 militants have been killed in three towns of Paspanwa, Hasankhel and Bora," Peshawar police chief Liaqat Ali Khan told AFP.

"Three policemen were martyred and five troops were injured in the gunfights," Khan said.

"The operation is still continuing and we have cleared the town of Paspanwa which was their main stronghold", he said adding that a large number of weapons were also seized.

Paspanwa is some 40 kilometres (25 miles) south of Peshawar.

A senior military official in Peshawar confirmed the deaths saying they took place when militants put up "resistance" during a "search operation."
 
These guys are never ending.


This is what has been on mind as well -- either there is an infinite supply of Talib or the Talib insurgency is huge or we are getting less than the truth -- either way, it does not come out well for the Pakistani state
 
This is what has been on mind as well -- either there is an infinite supply of Talib or the Talib insurgency is huge or we are getting less than the truth -- either way, it does not come out well for the Pakistani state

I would put it to a mix of both of these theories. We cant say there is unlimited supply of the talib insurgents, as there is nothing unlimited in this world, but they have definately got a rich source of supply, there is the ideology, they mix it with hate, this chemical is highly productive to them. pakistan is not on its own, it is global phenomenon but our region(Afghanistan+paksitan) is suffering the most followed by Somalia, Yemen etc. Look at around yourself and see how much of direct and indirect sympathy these terrorist get? even on the internet which the users are most likely to be educated or at least having a relatively good idea of what is happening around them, in the villages it is even worse. Thanks to the cold war which created such a mess in the region that nobody is able to clean it, it turned both pakistan and afghanistan to be the home of extremists while extremists didnt exiist in the region before that.
 
Ahmad

I think something else is also going on - now, I realize this is very complicated but the Pakistani state has a very particular position on this problem, I find it very confusing -- If the main threat are the Talib, why hasn't the Pakistani state rolled up the Islamist framework from the country? In other words, why has the Pakistani state not made the case that Deeni Madaress have been hijacked or that "ideology" of Islamism is a danger to the state and nation, or even made a forceful case as to where funding to pay Talib is coming from -- there is the usual Afghan or US bashing and it is emotionally satisfying, but the problem is being covered up, why? That is what I am having trouble coming to grips with.
 
when government (federal, provincial) doesnt care, why/how should the people

fatalism meets criminal apathy and negligence (that applies to some of the civilians too, actually)
 
Five killed, four injured in Kurram shelling

PARACHINAR: Five people were killed and four others injured as a result of shelling by gunship helicopters in the upper Kurram tribal area on Tuesday.

Helicopters targeted armed men of two rival tribes who were fighting each other in the areas of Shelozan and Shelozan Tungi for last 18 days over a water dispute.

The dispute has, so far, clamed 147 lives as both tribes were using heavy weapons in the clashes.

The political administration and the elders were trying to break a peace deal between the groups.

Security forces were targeting hideouts and positions of the gunmen in order to stop the clashes.

DAWN.COM | Provinces | Five killed, four injured in Kurram shelling
 
close to home......too close for comfort :(:(

it's sad, because 2008 jirga objective was to end these water disputes; which sometimes escalate into sectarian hooliganism


whether its Karachi or Parachinar --- people need to calm down and stop shooting and breaking things. For God's sakes...


this always comes to my mind every time



 
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PESHAWAR, Pakistan, Oct 20, 2010 - Three Pakistani soldiers were killed Wednesday when a bomb ripped through their patrol in the Khyber region of the tribal belt on the Afghan border, a military spokesman said.

The soldiers from the paramilitary Frontier Corps (FC) were on a routine patrol when the bomb planted by militants hit a vehicle, the spokesman said.

The incident happened in Qambar Khel town, which lies on the route of NATO supply convoys heading to the US-led war effort in Afghanistan.

"Three FC soldiers were killed and three wounded," the spokesman said, blaming "miscreants" for the attack in a term used by Pakistani military commanders to denote Islamist militants.

Khyber is home to Taliban insurgents and militants from extremist group Lashkar-e-Islam led by local warlord Mangal Bagh.
 
6 Militants Killed In Mohmand

GHALANAI, Oct 20: At lease six militants were killed when security forces affectively retaliated their attack on an FC check post on Wednesday at Alinigar in the northwest of the Mohmad Agency near Afghan border, official from Political Authorities informed.

The authorities while giving details of the incident said that militants today attacked an FC post in the Lakhkar area injuring eight FC personnel including a Subedar who were shifted to Ghalanai hospital.

The authorities informed that backup force was called to reply the militants' attack which encircled the area and an encounter started between the forces and militants.

Six militants who were later identified as Sar Zamin s/o Jamal Uddin, Sher Rehman s/o Khanzada, Gulaab s/o Marjan, Muhammad Jan s/o Gul Muhammad, residents of Alinigar Shamsher r/o Swat and Gul Zarin r/o Kunar (Afghanistan) were killed during the encounter while another Laiq Jan of Bajaur sustained injuries and was arrested.

The forces have also arrested Ghulam Khan s/o Sabz Ali Mian, a prime suspect behind attacks on forces and shifted him to unknown location for interrogation.
 
KURRAM AGENCY: A remote-controlled bomb exploded near a vehicle allegedly belonging to militants in central Kurram on Thursday, killing six militants, including a top militant commander.

Sources said that six militants were killed in the explosion, including top militant commander Hakim Khan.

A number of militants have also been injured in the explosion and most of them are said to be in critical condition.

A military operation has been underway in central Kurram against militants for the past 10 months in which a number of militants training centres and camps have been destroyed.

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The Pakistani tribe that is taking on the Taliban

The BBC's M Ilyas Khan is one of the few journalists in recent months who has been able to travel to the remote north-western Pakistani tribal district of Kurram, where members of the Turi tribe are waging a war of attrition with the Taliban.

A couple of miles east of Alizai town in the Kurram tribal district, north-western Pakistan, boundary walls of two large compounds are rising fast.

Elders of the region's largest tribe, the Turi, say they are building homes for eight families from western parts of Kurram who have volunteered to resettle here.

"Apart from a house, each family will get four acres of land for agricultural use," says Haji Hashim Ali, a Turi elder and in charge of the community project.

"We hope to attract more than 200 families to this colony in a year's time," he says.

Community volunteers

The idea is to boost Turi presence in an area that belongs to the tribe but where the population has thinned out.

That has allowed others to step in and bring Taliban militants with them, Mr Ali explains.

The Turi tribe, which belongs to the Shia sect of Islam, has traditionally abhorred the Taliban - who adhere to a hardline Sunni form of the faith and many of whom consider Shias to be non-Muslims.

Two years ago, the Turis fought a major battle with the Taliban in the surroundings of Alizai.

They are now consolidating their hold on the region.

To the south of Alizai, across the Kurram river, the tribe is building a 14km (8.6 miles) road to link Alizai with the Turi stronghold of Parachinar in the west.

The Shurko road detours the Sunni-dominated town of Sadda, which is located on the region's main road that links Parachinar with Alizai and the rest of Pakistan.

In Parachinar, the district centre, and all along the Shurko road, community volunteers man checkpoints and also guard the region's airport.

There are no military checkpoints anywhere in the Turi lands from Parachinar to Alizai - and no Taliban.

To a casual observer, this comes as a surprise because Kurram is the most important strategic site from where to launch guerrilla attacks inside Afghanistan.

Its western tip is only 90km (56 miles) from the Afghan capital, Kabul.

Local people say that Taliban started pouring into the area in 2006 and set up base at a mosque in Parachinar.

"When we came to know of their presence, we took up the matter with the authorities, but they refused to expel them, saying the decisions were taken at a much higher level," says Ali Akbar Turi, another local elder
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Bombed

Fighting between the locals and the Taliban erupted in April 2007, and dozens of people were killed over the next year.

Devoid of local support, the Taliban were forced to retreat to their bases in Sadda and Alizai in eastern Kurram, but from there they enforced a blockade of Kurram's only road link to Pakistan
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"Our traders lost millions of dollars worth of merchandise when our trucks were bombed and burned down, and dozens of our people were beheaded," recalls Haji Hashim Ali.

In August 2008, local elders decided that if the army wasn't prepared to deal with the Taliban, it was time to raise a tribal force and storm the militant bases themselves.

Najib Hussain, a Kurram resident, fought on a front that finally led to the fall of Bugzai, a village that housed the Taliban's main base in the region, just across the river from Alizai.

"We had about 100 to 150 fighters. We would rotate them in four hourly shifts," he says.

"Fighting was intense. During the first 27 days I only came down twice from my position on the hill to take a bath. On the 27th day, I was hit and had to be carried away to the hospital."

It took the tribal force 46 days of fighting - and the loss of around 400 fighters - to inflict a final defeat on Taliban.

Nearly two years after the war, this entire area remains free of Taliban.


'Trapped'

But further east, the Taliban continue to block their exit route.

People can only leave Kurram in convoys, and only when the government provides security. Even then, they are regularly attacked.

In the last attack in July, suspected Taliban gunmen killed 18 people travelling in a passenger van from Parachinar to Peshawar, the regional capital.

Syed Abid Jan, 75, was one of four survivors.

"We started in the convoy but our van fell behind," he says.

"In Charkhel area, some 20km (12.4 miles) east of Alizai, about 10 gunmen fired at the van, causing it to overturn. Then they came closer and fired at the passengers trapped inside from all sides."

Mr Jan was hit in the back.

"When they went away, I looked around. My grandson was dead. He had fallen on me. I had fallen on my wife. She was also dead."

After three years of road blockades, the intensity of war has left a mark on the people of Kurram.

Trading and development work have come to a halt, much of the infrastructure of health, education and agriculture has been destroyed, and there is of course the emotional toll.

"A friend of mine told me to beware of going mad. I think that warning has kept me from going mad entirely," says Aqeel Hussain, the owner of a petrol station in Alizai.

"But sometimes I think I'm half mad. My blood pressure shoots up sometimes. It never used to happen before."

After the fall of Bugzai, the Taliban twice offered to guarantee the safety of the road from Kurram to Peshawar in return for access for their militants through Kurram into Afghanistan.

But this is an offer which the people of Kurram say they are determined never to accept
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BBC News - The Pakistani tribe that is taking on the Taliban
 
i witnessed the death of a relative (in Alamsher) in 2006 ---same elements fired RPG and a stray one hit near entrance of the house. She was 8 months pregnant.

Turis traditionally have supported and cooperated closely with the FC and counter-insurgency, it sometimes put them at odds with some of the other tribes; not only because of their cooperation, but also because some of the sectarian/militant factions tried to create power vacuum and distraction by fomenting sectarian tensions....tribal differences, sectarian brain-washing and resource disputes were all compounded and mixed together and it created very dangerous situation ---and music to the ears of the enemies of Pakistan (and Islam) who want to divide people.


It's a proxy ground where theocratic rival countries like Saudi Arabia and Iran always had their eyes on. Seems like the younger Haqqani guys want to ''market'' themselves differently.

They want to create peace and end sectarianism in the Kurram valley; but in exchange they may ask for ''bases'' or protection there, and that is why many of the locals (Sunni and Shiia tribes) are suspicious.

Nobody wants a return of violence, like what happened during water dispute of 2006....many people died, there was much unrest for weeks.










p.s. i'd rather not delve into details I have no information on.....but "between you and me" --don't be surprised if Iran or even U.S. may have had a ''hand'' in this recent explosion. They both do not gain from having the tribes united, or allowing the younger Haqqanis to be seen as playing some kind of "useful" role
 
Landmine blast kills 6 security men in Upper Orakzai





Landmine blast kills 6 security men in Upper Orakzai
Updated at: 1035 PST, Friday, October 22, 2010
KOHAT: At least six security personnel were killed and another two sustained injuries after a landmine went off in Yekh Kandao area of Upper Orakzai Agency, Geo News reported early Friday.

The incident occurred when a vehicle from a security convoy hit a landmine planted somewhere in Yekh Kando area, resulting in killings of six security men and injuring another two, officials and sources said.

Injured security personnel are being shifted to hospital for medical attainment, sources said.

Also, the explosion completely shattered the vehicle, meanwhile security officials have cordoned off the blast site for collecting evidences and kicked off search operation across the Orakzai.
 
6 Soldiers Including Colonel Martyred In Orakzai

PESHAWAR, Pakistan, Oct 22, 2010 - A bomb attack killed six Pakistani soldiers in one of the most lawless parts of the country's northwestern tribal belt on Friday, security officials said, the third deadly attack this week.

The spate of killings of paramilitary troops in the tribal belt follows a relative lull in violence as the military and government focused on relief efforts for 20 million people hit by catastrophic floods.

The device exploded as the convoy was moving through the Yakh Kandaw area of Orakzai, one of the districts where Taliban militants have fled after punishing offensives elsewhere in the northwest.

"Frontier Corps troops were on a routine patrol in upper Orakzai when an IED (improvised explosive device) blast took place in Yakh Kandaw," the district's political administrator, Abdul Qadir, told AFP.

"Six security officials died on the spot while three were injured. A search operation has been launched in the area to trace the militants."

A paramilitary official from the Frontier Corps said the dead included a colonel, and said two other troops were wounded.

A senior security official told AFP the convoy had been en route from the village of Ghaljo in Orakzai to the northwestern garrison town of Kohat.

According to Pakistani military statistics, 2,421 army and paramilitary soldiers were killed and 7,195 wounded in fighting with Islamist militants from 2002 until April this year.
 
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