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In two lacklustre years of governance the BJP has done very little to fulfil its promise of economic revival and vindicate the trust that the people of India had bestowed upon it. That may be why its propagandists have worked overtime to portray the signature of the Logistics and Supply Memorandum of Agreement (LEMOA) with the USA, and President Obama’s designation of India as a “major defence partner” as a huge success in his foreign policy.


With very few exceptions, commentators in the national media have fallen in line with this assessment. Only a few have noticed that in his eagerness to cement a closer defence relationship with the US Modi had given away India’s most prized asset – its zealously guarded independence of foreign policy – in exchange for a barrage of flattery and a bunch of verbal assurances that do not even add up to the proverbial thirty pieces of silver .

Declaring India a major defence partner has cost the US nothing. Unlike NATO or the US’s defence treaty with Japan, it is not a mutual defence pact and does not bind the US to coming to India’s aid if it is attacked. The most that India can possibly aspire to is a relationship somewhat similar to that of the US with Israel, where the US constantly reiterates its determination to come to Israel’s aid if it is attacked, but not via a defence treaty.

But India is not Israel. Its India-born American community is rich, and becoming politically more influential by the day. But it can never, even remotely, aspire to the power to shape US policy. American military power is not, therefore, ever likely to be deployed against India’s two main adversaries, Pakistan and China: Pakistan because it too is ‘a major non-NATO ally’, and China because it is simply too big for an already war-weary nation to take on.

In sharp contrast, the commitments that India has made to become worthy of this award (for that is all it is) are concrete, onerous and, worst of all, open-ended. Indian diplomats who have been involved in the negotiations insist that, unlike the Logistics Supply Agreement (LSA) that the US has signed with its other allies, it does not give the US Navy and Air Force an automatic right to use Indian bases while waging its wars. What it will facilitate automatically is the refuelling, restocking and repair of their craft at Indian naval and air bases during joint exercises, anti-piracy and other UN-sanctioned operations in the Indian Ocean.

This is the assurance that Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar had rushed to Beijing to give to the Chinese after postponing the signature of LEMOA at the last minute during US Defence Secretary Ashton Carter’s visit to Delhi in April. But in practice, these caveats against automatic involvement in America’s wars are hollow because Delhi will find it exceedingly difficult to deny these facilities to the US once the latter has committed itself to a military operation – because of the angry reaction that will provoke in the US media, and the Congress.

LEMOA is also only the thin end of a rather fat wedge. The US has made it clear that signing it will make it easier to acquire sensitive dual-use technologies. But to get the most out of it, India will have to sign two supplementary “foundational” agreements, the Communication and Information Security Memorandum of Agreement (CISMOA) and the Basic Exchange and Cooperation Agreement (BECA).

The US needs these to ensure that sensitive technological information shared with India does not get passed onto ‘unfriendly’ countries. But this concern will cut both ways. Its immediate result will therefore be to cut India off from access to cutting edge Russian armaments and technology.

A big loss

This will not be a small loss. In the late 1980s and early 1990s, as the Soviet Union began to come apart, it could have been argued that India did not really have any alternative but to turn to the West for advanced weaponry. But that is no longer true. The S-400 surface-to-air missile batteries, Sukhoi-65 multi-role aircraft and long-range cruise missiles that Moscow unveiled in Syria last year show that the technology gap between the US and Russia has not only narrowed but, in some important areas, reversed.

There is nothing comparable to the S-400 in the western armoury, and the Su-65 costs a quarter of what India has committed itself to paying France for the Rafale. So no matter how Modi’s propagandists try to dress it up, these three agreements will lock India into permanent dependence upon American, European and Israeli suppliers and make it pay through the nose for what it gets.

Thus when CISMOA and BECA have been signed, India will lose its capacity to act independently and will become a permanent appendage of the Western alliance. To see how this could work out in practice, Modi has only to pick up the phone to Pakistan’s Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif or, better still, ask General Pervez Musharraf about how Pakistan came to join the War on Terror after 9/11.

The difference between Modi and his predecessors is that the latter were not prepared to pay this price. Manmohan Singh, Atal Bihari Vajpayee and Narasimha Rao had coped with China’s rise by assuaging its anxieties about Indian intentions in Tibet and rapidly deepening the economic relations between the two countries. But they had simultaneously asserted India’s right to deal independently with the countries around the South China sea, to continue sheltering the Dalai Lama and to allow him to run a virtual government in exile from Dharamshala.

All three also steadily deepened India’s relationship with the US, but carefully avoided making military commitments that would limit their options in the future. Vajpayee refused President George W. Bush’s request for Indian troops to pacify Iraq after the 2003 invasion, and Manmohan Singh studiously refused to sign the logistics supply, and its supporting agreements, with the US throughout his time in office.

The success of this careful balancing act is testified to by the fact that during this period it was not only the US but also China that began to woo India. Modi’s precipitate action – taken without any of the open discussion and extended parliamentary debate that had preceded the signing of the Indo-US nuclear agreement in 2008 – has ended this hard-won equidistance and the power to influence world events that went with it.

What is even more disturbing: while it has crowned Obama’s attempt to yoke India to his goal of containing China with success, it has wantonly thrown away the best opportunity India had, or may ever have again, of making a lasting peace with China and harnessing its enormous financial, technological and managerial resources to accelerate India’s industrial development.

Breaking from Nehru’s legacy

The US must have sensed its opportunity when Modi signalled his willingness, probably during his first visit to Washington in 2014, to make a clean break with Jawaharlal Nehru’s legacy in foreign policy. Barack Obama lost no time in capitalising upon this and accepted Modi’s invitation to be the guest of honour at the 2015 Republic Day celebrations. The reason why he did so at such short notice surfaced when the two leaders signed the ‘U.S.-India Joint Strategic Vision for the Asia-Pacific and Indian Ocean Region’ on January 25.

Encased in the fluff of mutual praise was the one paragraph that mattered: “Regional prosperity depends on security. We affirm the importance of safeguarding maritime security and ensuring freedom of navigation and overflight throughout the region, especially in the South China Sea.” As Srinath Raghavan has pointed out in The Wire, China has a far stronger interest than the US in preserving the freedom of navigation in the South China Sea because all but a small fraction of its trade, and more importantly its import of oil, travels through it. What the US is insisting on maintaining, therefore, is the freedom of navigation for military vessels and aircraft.

In April 2015, this agreement bore its first fruit when four Indian warships joined a US-Japan task force spearheaded by the American super-carrier, the John C. Stennis, ostensibly to assert freedom of navigation in the South China sea. This one action, which received virtually no mention in the Indian media, revealed how little they, and Modi himself, understood the basics, let alone the nuances, of the power-struggle that is taking place in international relations today. For at the time this happened, he was within days of making his first state visit to China.

It is possible that Modi was only paying China back in its own coin for timing its intrusion into Ladakh’s Chumur sector to coincide with President Xi Jinping’s visit to India in September 2014. But if this was indeed his intention, then he had not been briefed about the overtures that China had been making to forge a closer strategic relationship with India ever since 2009 and the strategic convergence that had taken place in their world views since then.

Prem Shankar Jha is a ‘senior journalist and author of Twilight of the Nation State: Globalisation, Chaos and War and Crouching Dragon, Hidden Tiger: Can China and India Dominate the West?
 
there are some serious issues raised in this article regard to the independence of Indian foreign policy and if this back fired it will embroil india is so many problems diplomatically

corrective measures are being taken to check the apparent 'tilt' ... Russia is our reliable long term partner, every crisis it has stood by us, be it 1971 or 1999 and later.

Pragmatism demands we jack up relations with US, but not at the cost of Russia. The economic condition of Russia due to sanctions permit us a lot of leverage, we need to work on that now.
 
The S-400 surface-to-air missile batteries, Sukhoi-65 multi-role aircraft and long-range cruise missiles that Moscow unveiled in Syria last year show that the technology gap between the US and Russia has not only narrowed but, in some important areas, reversed.

There is nothing comparable to the S-400 in the western armoury, and the Su-65 costs a quarter of what India has committed itself to paying France for the Rafale.
What's a sukhoi-65.:o:
A lot have been said about LSA, BECA and the CISMOA. If India will ever sign these agreements with the USA they will be more refined versions of what USA has with its allies. Current BJP regime cannot move forward with these agreements without the support of the Indian parliament.
 
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What's a sukhoi-65.:o:
A lot have been said about India signing LSA, BECA and the CISMOA. If India will ever sign these agreements with the USA they will be a more refined versions of what USA has with its allies. Current BJP regime cannot move forward with these agreements without the support of the Indian parliament.

Laughing at the post actually

it is a water powered aircraft .. dumbass piece this write up is.
 
I don't agree with most of it. I want to be very critical but will cut it short since its a very flawed.

Declaring India a major defence partner has cost the US nothing.

Getting India Declared as a major defence partner has costed India nothing. Ofcource, if you are too cheap to factor in Modi's 2 day stay in hotel and a Airforce one. Working with others, USA for instance is boost for indian private sector. You have the rules to control the partnership in any way or form that india wishes.

What the title brings?
1. Access to technology atleast in defence.
2. Boost to make in India. Since india is a strategic partner its going to have economic benifts as shifting of manufacturing in India.
3. Better standard of living. the newly created jobs will bring PPP very highly. Its missing in India as of the moment.
4. People to people contact- the Indian americans mentioned like myself will be faring a better future and influence US policy for current and the future generations for future.
5. International standing: India has been a very peaceful country (contrary to what PDF members claim). it is against terrorism, self standing and conflict resolving nation. It has been able to survive and upheld the international pressure without going againt its interest and principles. So the question arrises that so much good to say but not a big player with the biggest democracy and voices of over billion people bring to the table. India has not been vocal about its standing. It definately means decision making. there has always been muting on major topics in world order by previous governments. I do not feel that is the correct approach. However, modi has been very good if no the greatest at keeping all the relationships intact and rather over the top. Rather its US- russia, US china, Isreal- Iran, Iran- saudi arabia. or the African union. You are respected because of priciple and doing and not on the size (as Nation).

A big loss

There is no loss. India is not bound by aid or other parameters that are leveraged by other nations. It has acces to both the part of technologies and will make its decion which is better for itself.

Breaking from Nehru’s legacy

Yes we need to break from the past. we are still non-aligned though but stop acting like a shy personality. Modi is the best person for the job. LEMOA is only for peacetime missions and has been done without the offer of reciprocity in the past as well. The pact is null and void in wartime. India did a great job by not budging down from principles. India is to be called as parter than ally by everyone. Thats the goal.

I am guessing the whole thing is against modi but some how india was made the topic.


 
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there are some serious issues raised in this article regard to the independence of Indian foreign policy and if this back fired it will embroil india is so many problems diplomatically

This article is for the communist in India to fall for, pushed by doves and the ill informed. There is no NATO bases, there is only mutual comms and logistics support. You are not giving up any sovereign land to us. Sometime back I read how Indian Generals had no issue with these agreements.
 
Modi is at least to be credited for making congis and commies patriotic. Those who celebrated China's attack on India, those who handed over Indian territory for "good will", those who released terrorists without any compulsion are the biggest patriots now.
 
In two lacklustre years of governance the BJP has done very little to fulfil its promise of economic revival and vindicate the trust that the people of India had bestowed upon it.

Either you are on a fake country flag and name
Or you are used to looting India in the name of Anti National Congress.
Scumbags like you are a curse to the country.
You guys looted India left right and center and done max damage to it.
Shame on you for spreading such lies.
 
Well websites like Wire, DailyO and few others are financed and supported by persons with leftist opinion. Follow contents and tone of news/ opinion posted on these websites, their biasedness will be more bright and clear.

Coming to featured article, it looks more of noise and less on substance. As an independent country India needs to branch out to other powers for safety instead of just Russia. economic wise China has more influence on Russia these days than India.
 
Either you are on a fake country flag and name
Or you are used to looting India in the name of Anti National Congress.
Scumbags like you are a curse to the country.
You guys looted India left right and center and done max damage to it.
Shame on you for spreading such lies.
Now you will be called Bakth.... I find it funny when people call that.
 
commy *** on fire as always ! thanks Modi for making them Patriot !
 
The very same people literally begged nonstop to USA to not provide visa to Modi....If our sovereignty wasn't compromised then, It won't compromise now.
 
It's India's own choice. Many countries have allowed US troops into their military bases, some have done well and some have not, depends how you implement it.

But none have done well on a social level for women of the host countries. I can already imagine the US troops licking their chops fantasizing the beautiful Indian women.
 

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