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Whenever there emerges a cocktail made up of a notoriously trigger-happy bunch of Italian state prosecutors, pathetic Indian politicians—both those in power and those voted out of power—so full of unconscionable behavior, a cabal of unscrupulous Italian citizens masquerading as product marketers, and hyper-ventilating Indian broadcast TV channels, the end-result can only be mayhem and obfuscation, with the truth nowhere in sight. On February 14, 2013 India’s Ministry of Defence (MoD) had produced a document that—had anyone bothered to read it—most notably the Italian magistrates—they would have indisputably cleared all Indian citizens of any wrongdoing by removing the motive for corruption.


All that the three-year trials process in Italy has produced so far is the indictment and sentencing of Giuseppe Orsi, former CEO Finmeccanica; and Bruno Spagnolini, CEO of AgustaWestland. No material evidence to date has come to light about any direct or indirect money-trail that leads to any Indian official or politician, nor of any wrongdoing done by anyone from either the MoD or the Indian Air Force (IAF). Worse, the material evidence gathered from the alleged middlemen—Guido Ralph Haschke,Carlo Gerosaand James Christian Michel—clearly show them to be groping in the dark and being totally unaware of how exactly the MoD’s procurement-related decision-making process works. For, had they have had even the slightest idea about who had the final say in selecting the VVIP helicopters, they would have clearly mentioned the post of Director of the Special Protection Group (SPG) as being the key and most critical stakeholder of the VVIP helicopter selection process. Yet, nowhere is the SPG’s Director mentioned in any piece of paper containing the handwritten notations of these alleged middlemen. Nor is there any material evidence of any money laundering exercise involving any financial institution.


It was in August 1999 that the IAF, which is responsible for carrying out VVIP communication taskings, had proposed the replacement of its then Mi-8T VVIP helicopters of its Air HQ Communication Squadron due to severe operational constraints, such as the Mi-8T’s inability of to operate at night and in adverse weather, inability to operate safely at places in elevations beyond 2,000 metres, and the approaching end of their total technical service lives (TTSL). Consequently, a global Request for Proposals (RFP) was issued in March 2002 to which four OEMs—AgustaWestland, Eurocopter SA, Rosoboronexport State Corp and Sikorsky Helicopters—responded. The IAF’s Technical Evaluation Committee (TEC) subsequently shortlisted three helicopters and accordingly competitive flight evaluations were conducted. Since AgustaWestland’s AW-101 was not certified for operating at an altitude of 6,000 metres, it did not participate in the flight evaluations. Russia’s Mi-172 could not comply with 7 mandatory Operational Requirements (OR). After flight evaluations, only Eurocopter’s EC-225 was found suitable for acquisition.On November 19, 2003 a meeting was taken by Brajesh Mishra, the then Principal Secretary-cum-National Security Adviser (NSA) to the then Prime Minister Atal Behari Vajpayee on this subject. In this meeting, Mishra had observed that his main concern was that the framing of the mandatory ORs had led India effectively into a single vendor situation. It was also noted that very rarely have India’s Presidents or Prime Ministers have made visits to places involving flying at an altitude beyond 4,500 metres.In the meeting it was therefore decided to make the mandatory OR for an operational altitude 4,500 metres.The higher flying ceiling of 6,000 metres, and the mandated internal cabin height of 1.8 metres could be made desirable ORs.Later, a letter dated December 22, 2003 from Mishra to the then Chief of the Air Staff (CAS) of the IAF, ACM Srinivasapuram Krishnaswamy, stating that it was unfortunate that neither PMO nor the Special Protection Group (SPG) was consulted while framing these mandatory ORs. Mishra suggested that the CAS and the Defence Secretary may jointly review the matter to draw up realistic mandatory ORs satisfying operational, security and convenience requirements of VVIPs, and also set in motion a fast-track process for selection and acquisition of the replacement helicopters.In pursuance of this directive, the ORs were deliberated at length between IAF, NSA, SPG and MoD between March, 2005 to September, 2006 and the indicated changes were incorporated.No ambiguity is thus possible: the decision to lower the service ceiling requirement was official and above-board. It was taken during a meeting chaired by the PM’s Principal Secretary-cum-NSA, was followed up in writing with the IAF’s CAS, and was reviewed by the then-Defence Secretary. Subsequently, the revised ORs were deliberated at length for 18 months by the involved SPG and IAF authorities before becoming effective, and were all included in the final RFP document.The acceptance of necessity (AON) for the procurement of 12 VVIP helicopters was accorded by the MoD’s Defence Acquisition Council (DAC) under the ‘Buy’ category with 30% industrial offsets on January 3, 2006.


Next, the RFP was issued to six OEMs on September 27, 2006.Three OEMs—Sikorsky (S-92), AgustaWestland (AW-101) and Rosoboronexport (Mi-172 ) responded to the RFP.Rosoboronexport did not submit the mandated earnest money deposit and the Integrity Pact, along with the Technical and Commercial Proposals (TCP). It had been made clear to Rosoboronexport in February 2007 that this was a global tender and hence every contractual clause would apply to all vendors without exception. As no Integrity Pact and earnest money deposit were received from Rosoboronexport, the Mi-172’s TCP was not accepted. Subsequently, a team comprising officials of the IAF and SPG carried out Field Evaluation Trials (FET) of the AW-101 in the UK and of the S-92 in the US from January 16, 2008 till February 19, 2008. The FET team submitted its report in April 2008 and recommended the AW-101 for service induction. The IAF’s own internal Staff Evaluation Report (SER) concluded that the S-92 was non-compliant with respect to four staff qualitative requirements (SQR)m these being the absence of a missile approach warning system (MAWS), service ceiling of 4.5km, deficient drift-down altitude, and deficient hover-out-of-ground-effect parameters.In addition, the AW-101, unlike the S-92, featured a high tail-boom since it would allow the VVIP’s motorised vehicles to come right next to the rear-ramp and not expose the protected persons to a threat from anyone in the vicinity. The SER thus assessed AW-101 to be fully compliant with all SQRs.



The Technical Oversight Committee (TOC) constituted by the MoD on August 6, 2008 found that the FETs, compliance to SQRs and selection of the competing OEMs were all done according to the prescribed/mandated procedures. A Contract Negotiations Committee (CNC) was subsequently constituted and it carried out negotiations with AgustaWestland between September 19, 2008 and January 21, 2009. While the CNC was progressing with negotiations, the IAF recommended the inclusion of Traffic Collision Avoidance System (TCAS-II) and Enhanced Ground Proximity Warning System (EGPWS) as additional fitments for all 12 AW-101s, while the SPG recommended the inclusion of integral MEDEVAC systems for 8 of the 12 VVIP helicopters. These additional equipment were considered to be essential for safe and effective operation of the helicopters in the VVIP transportation role. The CNC, thereafter, recommended contract signature at a negotiated fixed-price of €556.262 million ($827 million), or Rs.3,550 crore.
The draft contract was next submitted for approval by the Cabinet Committee on National Security (CCNS) and was approved by the CCNS on January 18, 2010. Consequently, the MoD inked the contract with AgustaWestland for 12 AW-101s each powered by three Rolls-Royce/Turbomeca RTM-322 engines on February 8, 2010.



The AW-101 procurement contract included specific contractual provisions against bribery and the use of undue influence. Article 22 of the contract dealt with penalty for use of undue influence. This clause entitled the ‘Buyer’ to cancel the contract with the ‘Seller’ and recover from it the amount of any loss arising from such cancellations. Article 23 of the contract dealing with agents and agency commission required the ‘Seller’ to confirm and declare that it had not engaged any individual or firm, whether Indian or foreign, whosoever, to intercede, facilitate or in any way to recommend to the Government of India or any of its functionaries, whether officially or unofficially, to award of the contract to the ‘Seller’ nor had any amount been paid, promised or intended to be paid to any such individual or firm in respect of any such intercession, facilitation or recommendation. This clause further entitled the ‘Buyer’ to consider cancellation of the contract without any entitlement or compensation to the ‘Seller’ who shall be liable to refund all payments made by the ‘Buyer’ in terms of the contract along with interest.In addition to the above contractual provisions, Agusta Westland had signed an Integrity Pact with the Government of India. The validity of this Integrity Pact is from the date of its signing and extends up to five years or the complete execution of the contract, whichever is later. Under the Integrity Pact, the ‘Seller’ OEM committed itself to take all measures necessary to prevent corrupt practices, unfair means and illegal activities during any stage of the bid or during any pre-contract or post-contract stage. Any breach of the provisions of the Integrity Pact entitled the ‘Buyer’ to take actions against the ‘Seller’ which included forfeiture of the earnest money, performance bond, cancellation of the contract without giving any compensation, recovery of all the sums already paid with interest, cancellation of any other contracts with the bidder, and to debar the bidder from entering into any bid from the Government of India for a minimum period of five years, which may be extended.


By July 2012 IAF pilots began AW-101-related flying conversion training in the UK, and the first AW-101 arrived at the Palam air base on December 20, 2012 while the second was delivered on December 22 and the third on December 24, 2012. Earlier, in October 2012, the MoD’s Defence Secretary wrote to the Ministry of External Affairs’ )MEA) Secretary (West) to take up the matter of alleged corrupt practices related the the AW-101 procurement contract with the UK in view of the alleged involvement of a British citizen (James Christian Michel), and the fact that the contract was signed with UK-based AgustaWestland.In November 2012, the MEA’s Secretary (West) replied to Defence Secretary, stating that “the UK authorities (i.e. the UK Serious Fraud Officehttps://www.sfo.gov.uk/about-us/) were waiting for the results of the Italian investigation in order to ascertain whether there are further actions to take”.



However, by late 2013 Indian Defence Minister Arackaparambil Kurien Antony single-handedly took the decision to first block progress-payments to AgustaWestland, then to cancel the contract, and finally to sue for payment of the surety and performance bonds that the company had placed in escrow, on the basis of unproven allegations.In doing so, Antony ignored a fundamental legal and moral principle: that the accused is innocent until proven guilty. This is unconscionable behavior for a Union Cabinet Minister in “the world’s largest democracy,” and can only be explained by motives other that a constitutional duty to his mission.The reality is that Antony, as the upcoming general election neared, even wanted to put AgustaWestland and Finmeccanica, its corporate parent, on the government’s blacklist, until he was blocked by the Government of India’s Solicitor-General. By January 2014, the MoD had cancelled the €566 million contract, as well as encashed €228 million of AgustaWestland’s €278 million performance bond, which dented the OEM’s cash position and that of its holding company Finmeccanica.All of this for no other reason than an Indian minister’s overwhelming pre-occupation with his political future.





So, what are the results of the Italian investigative efforts thus far? Firstly, they have only ended up insulting the institution of the IAF. Secondly, they have denied the much-needed replacement VVIP helicopters that are not only required for flying India’s President, Vice-President and Prime Minister, but are also meant for use by the country’s National Command Authority (NCA) in times of emergencies. In addition, such helicopters are also required to be put at the disposal of visiting foreign Heads of State/Government. Imagine such an official guest refusing to fly on-board a Mi-17IV or Mi-17V-5—both of which generally shunned by civilian VVIPs across the globe due to their deficient flight-safety features.




Here is what India’s Directorate General of Civil Aviation (DGCA) says about the Mi-17 family of helicopters: “The MGB drives the hydraulic pumps. Hydraulic power is required for the flying controls. The hydraulic system has OM-15 hydraulic oil. Hydraulic System has a main and standby system. Both systems have independent tanks, pumps, accumulators and pipelines. However, both the pipelines feed only a single booster, which in turn moves the control surfaces. There are a total of 4 boosters in the system. One critical weakness in the system is that if there is a leakage in the booster, there is a possibility of the entire oil from both the main and the standby systems leaking out. The emergency procedure for a total hydraulic failure is to have both pilots flying the aircraft in unison to a landing. The Mi 17V-5, which is a military version of the Mi-17, is being flown by the IAF and Border Security Force. As per the Flight Manual of this aircraft, the crew is to abandon the aircraft in case of total hydraulic failure. In case they cannot, then they have to resort to flying by both pilots to land immediately. Therefore, the procedure given in the Mi-17’s Flight Manual for total hydraulic does not inspire confidence in the pilots. All of them feel that this aircraft cannot be flown with a total hydraulic failure. They feel that this aircraft cannot even be taxied on ground with total hydraulic failure.”

And finally, to add insult to injury, Italian state prosecutors will be the only characters in this sorry story to escape unscathed.


So, if all those pathetic politicians (both of the ruling national coalition and those of the UPA-1/2 coalitions) in Lutyens’ Delhi are indeed serious about seeking the truth while ensuring that the prestige of the IAF and the survivability of India’s NCA are assured, then they better take heed of how Taiwan had overcome a similar crisis in the not-too-distant past.
The details of this case are as follows:

On August 31, 1991 France and Taiwan signed the ‘Bravo Contract’ to supply six Lafayette-class guided-missile frigates (FFG) for a total of US$2.5 billion. The buyer of the FFGs was the Plans Office of the Republic of China Navy (RoCN), acting on behalf Taiwan. The FFGs were to be built by DCNS. Shortly thereafter, the authorities in Taiwan accused the French state-owned ELF Aquitaine of having paid bribes through Thomson CSF (now THALES Group) to persuade both French government and RoCN authorities to approve the contract and launched an investigation. Taiwan initiated arbitration proceedings against DCNI during the second half of 2010.The case was eventually heard by the International Chamber of Commerce’s International Court of Arbitration. The court found that THALES Group had violated the anti-corruption terms of the contract and was therefore liable to repay all bribes, plus associated interest and legal fees. THALES appealed, and the decision was upheld by the Paris Court of Appeal, ordering THALES Group to pay compensation to Taiwan in the amount of €630 million (US$913 million). The French government and THALES Group announced the payment of the fine, with the French government paying approximately 72.54%, or around €457 million, and THALES Group the remainder.

https://star.worldbank.org/corruption-cases/node/19572
http://blogs.wsj.com/corruption-cur...es-sa-agree-to-pay-630-euros-in-frigate-case/

The Rebuttals
The Comptroller and Auditor General (CAG) had submitted a report on the acquisition of helicopters for Very Very Important Persons (VVIPs) on August 13, 2013. The audit sought to examine the process of acquisition of VVIP helicopters and its compliance with the Defence Procurement Procedure (DPP), the prescribed procedure for procurement in the defence services.The report can be read here:
http://164.100.176.130/english/home...ts/union_compliance/2013/Defence/10of2013.pdf

Key findings and recommendations of the CAG in this report were obviously derived by officials who were not domain experts. The findings/recommendations are detailed below as are their rebuttals:


Claim: The initial Request for Proposal (RFP) issued by the Ministry of Defence in 2002 mandated an altitude requirement of 6,000 metres. Only one helicopter, the EC-225 of Eurocopter met this requirement. The EH-101 helicopter (later renamed AW-101) of AgustaWestland did not meet this requirement.
Fact: That’s because that RFP was based on specifications that favoured only the EC-225 and the Mi-172. In fact, the MoD had in 1999 estimated that the total acquisition cost of eight VVIP transportation helicopters would be no more than Rs.793 crore, and this figure pertained to only the Mi-172 helicopter that did not contain any customer-specified equipment. The MoD had obtained such cost estimations from Pawan Hans Ltd, which had by then been operating the Mi-172.

Claim: However, the first RFP was cancelled due to the emergence of a single-vendor situation. In the revised RFP in 2006, the altitude requirement was reduced to 4,500 metres, and a cabin height requirement of 1.8 metres was introduced, making the AW-101 eligible, and the EC 225 ineligible.The lowering of the altitude requirement was against the ORs of the procured helicopters, especially in many areas of the north and north east of India. In addition, the single-vendor situation remained even after lowering the altitude requirement, because of which the AW-101 of AgustaWestland was selected.
Fact: Totally untrue. At a meeting of the PMO on November 19, 2003, it was Brajesh Mishra who, acting upon the advice of the SPG, directed that the desired VVIP helicopter’s service ceiling be reduced from 6,000 metres (18,000 feet) to 4,500 metres or 14, 000 feet; that the internal cabin be of the stand-up type, meaning a height increase from 1.4 metres to 1.8 metres; and an increase in the number of VVIP helicopters from 8 to 12. Thus, 3 (THREE) different deviations were sought from the PMO, and NOT from IAF HQ. A letter to this effect was later drafted by Brajesh Mishra from the PMO and this letter was dated December 22, 2003 and it was addressed to both IAF HQ and to the SPG’s Director. As a result of this, from that day itself, the EC-225 got disqualified since its cabin height was only 1.45 metres. Insterad, from then on, three contenders remained in the fray, i.e. the Mi-172, the S-92 and the AW-101, with the latter two having cabin heights of 1.82 metres.


Claim: The revised SQRs in 2006 made competition more restrictive instead of making the procurement procedures more broad-based to increase competition. The fresh RFP with revised SQRs was issued to only 6 vendors as opposed to 11 in 2002.
Fact: This is spectacularly ridiculous. Can anyone in the CAG or in this world ever explain how a competitive evaluation process involving 12 contenders can guarantee a far better deal than a competitive evaluation process involving 6 contenders? Can even a single such precedence be sited from anywhere else in this world?

Claim: The Field Evaluation Trial (FET) of the AW-101 was conducted on representative helicopters and not the actual helicopter. The AW-101 was still at the development stage at the time of the FET.
Fact: Totally wrong. The AW-101, known earlier as the EH-101, has been available as a fully developed and flight-certified helicopter since the 1990s. Furthermore, never in the history of aviation has any aircraft or helicopter been developed from scratch as a VVIP platform. Every VVIP helicopter flying today makes use of a platform that was originally developed for either military/military utility usage and that has been customised through customer-specified fitments. Similarly, when the Indian Navy wanted to evaluate the contenders for its LRMR/ASW platform requirements, it had to evaluate representative candidates like the Airbus A319MPA and the Boeing P-8A Poseidon.

Claim: Although the 2006 RFP had laid down the necessity of carrying out the field evaluations in India, they were conducted abroad. The recommendation and assurance given by the IAF Chief (October 2007) to conduct evaluation trials abroad lacked justification.
Fact: Necessity, yes; compulsory, no. Deviations from this requirement have always been allowed over the past 16 years. For i9nstance, field evaluations of VVIP transport aircraft like the Boeing BBJ and Embraer EMB-135BJLegacy were all conducted abroad in the previous decade.

Claim: Given the low utilisation levels of the existing fleet of helicopters, the MoD was not justified in procuring four additional helicopters for VVIPs.
Fact: The existing Mi-8Ts had approached the end of their TTSLs by 2005 itself and therefore could be used only sparingly. Instead, most VVIP flying between 2005 and now has been done on board the IAF’s Mi-17-IVs, 40 of which were bought early in the previous decade.

Claim: The cost benchmarked by the Contract Negotiation Committee was much higher than the offered price, allowing no room for negotiation. Hence, it provided no realistic basis for obtaining an assurance about a reasonable cost procurement of AW -101.
Fact: The MoD’s benchmarked cost was Rs.4,877.5 crore while AgustaWestland’s offer-price was Rs.3,966 crore, meaning the former figure was 22.80% higher. The final negotiated figure was Rs. 3,550 crore. Therefore, to claim that there was no room for negotiations on the price issue is blatantly false. Usually, the benchmarked cost has a 20% mark-up in order to factor in various variables, such as the customisation of the platform (through the incorporation of special fitments) and the quantum of spares-support required for a finite period of time, like for a single year or for a three-year period.
Other Slanderous Claims
The Milan Appellate Court’s judgment concerning Indian citizens, which relies almost entirely on the testimony of Guido Haschke, blandly states: “Ultimately, there are no elements of certainty to affirm this beyond any reasonable doubt that the reduction in the operating height was made contrary to the public (duty), and then (Air Chief) Marshal Tyagi carried out specific acts contrary to his duty; it remains, anyway, the wrongfulness of his conduct, for having offered to cooperate with AW in an economic operation which prohibited all forms of mediation, and for having received a large compensation in relation to its institutional activity.”

Now, either Italian state prosecutors and court judges are spectacularly insane, or they are loathe to do their homework. For instance, the date on which written directives to revise the QRs were issued from the Indian PMO to IAF HQ was December 22, 2003 and at that time the IAF’s CAS was ACM Srinivasapuram Krishnaswamy. ACM Shashindra Pal Tyagi took over as the 20th CAS of the IAF only on December 31, 2004, and had retired on March 31, 2007. The competitive evaluations of the two shortlisted contenders were done during the tenure of ACM Fali H Major, while contract signature for Contract No. HQ/S96062/6/ASR was done when ACM P V Naik was the CAS. Furthermore, if at all the Italian state prosecutors and the presiding Judge of the Milan Appellate Court were to have done their homework on how exactly the decision-making process works for military procurements, they surely wouldn’t have targetted S P Tyagi. All they had to do was study this document:
http://indianairforce.nic.in/RTI/HandbookOnRTIAct2005.pdf



It is evident from this document that the primary decision-makers on all technical aspects of production evaluations/shortlisting within IAF HQ are the VCAS and DCAS Branches, and not the office of the CAS. The bulk of the work is done by the concerned Project Director who reports to the DCAS Branch and the final call is taken by the VCAS Branch. The only job then left for the CAS is to ENDORSE the recommendations and conclusions. He does not have the authority to either revise or reverse anything at this stage.

Then we have utterly false canards being spread by the TIMESNow broadcast TV channel, such as ZAPPA being a code-word. In reality, Zappa is the surname of Giorgio Zappa, the former CEO of Finmeccanica. Similarly, this Channel has since claimed that AgustaWestland International Ltd (AWIL) is not an OEM. In reality, AWIL is indeed the OEM whose helicopter manufacturing facilities are located in Yeovil, Somerset in the United Kingdom, where the IAF’s first three already-delivered AW-101s were built. And just like AWIL, the Italy-based helicopter manufacturing subsidiary of Finmeccanica SpA is known as AgustaWestland SpA, while the facility based in The Netherlands is known asAgusta Westland NV, Netherlands.


http://trishul-trident.blogspot.co.uk/


Further:

All this can easily be proven if the CBI instead of sending letters rogatory to various countries abroad, contacts the UK's Serious Fraud Office to examine the account-books of AgustaWestland. Once this is done, financial defrauding will emerge with ease & this then will enable the Govt of India to seek liquidated damages from AgustaWestland--a figure that can be adjusted against the amount of money charged by AgustaWestland for providing through-life product-support for the AW-101 fleet. This is what A K Antony should have done. Instead, he panicked & everything from then on went haywire.

April 28, 2016 at 4:40 PM



LoLz! That poor sod is mixing apples with oranges. The case where ASQRs & GSQRs were leaked pertained to the Abhishek Verma affair. This Verma chap was then trying to get the agency for selling the AW-139 helicopters to various Indian state govts & he was also interested in bidding for the Army's & IAF's LUH/RSH contracts. Verma is now rotting in jail & he never succeeded in acquiring the acquiring the marketing rights for any helicopter of AgustaWestland. And of course the contract will be signed with AgustaWestland, the OEM. Finmeccanica is only the holding company & serves only as corporate HQ for all its subsidiary companies. If I want to buy 127mm or 76/62 SRGMs, then I will have to sign the contract with the OEM OTOBreda, & not its holding company Finmeccanica. Similarly, if I want to purchase Black Shark torpedoes, then I will have to ink the contract with WASS, the OEM & not with Finmeccanica, which is the holding company of WASS. If I want to buy S-70B2 Seahawk helicopters, then I will be reqd to ink the contract with Sikorsky Helicopters, the OEM, & not with Lockheed Martin which now owns Sikorsky Helicopters.

April 28, 2016 at 10:33 PM




ACM S P Tyagi had the least role to nplay in the VVIP helicopter purchase affair. The bulk of the evaluations & negotiations were conducted when ACM Fali H Major was the CAS of the IAF & the deal was inked when ACM P V Naik was the CAS. The names of Indian citizens don't appear in the judgment narrative of the Italian court. Instead, they appear only on the annexures attached as circumstantial evidence with the verdict document. As for the observation about "Sonia being the driving force behind the deal", what it means is that since she was the chairperson of the NAC, she had the decisive say over the allocation of financial resources for such a major procurement exercise to be given the green light. Iy does not by any stretch of imagination mean that she had specifically insisted on procuring only the AW-101. And it was known by 2005 itself that the AW-101 would emerge tops in competitive evaluations after the US also chose the AW-101 over the S-92 as its Marine-1 platform--this being known as the VH-71 Kestrel. That's the reason I have listed above all the categories with which the AW-101 had 100% compliance with the IAF's & SPG's ORs/QRs. And all those who are no alleging corruption in the selection process are only seeking to malign & irreparably damage the institutional integrity of the IAF. Not a single Indian journalist or MP or govt official or minister or politician has so far examined this angle & all have refrained from defending the IAF. That really shows us all who are India's real friends & who are the traitors. And that's the saddest part of this whole tamaasha.

April 28, 2016 at 10:44 PM


I'm more than aware of the big picture & therefore my stand is a principled one & therefore I have labelled Indian politicians of all hues & parties as being 'pathetic'. What I'm against without any compromise is the unnecessary & avoidable maligning of the institution of the IAF, about which no one seems to care.

April 28, 2016 at 11:58 PM


Pray look at the bigger picture: the case started with a criminal plot involving payoffs by Finmeccanica to Italian politicians. In the latest judgment, there's absolutely no word about this core issue & all the trash has now been hurled against Indian citizens! Perhaps that Hashke fella was right after all when he had said that the "Indians are morons & will take years to figure it all out". His words are now proving to be prophetic. Instead of uniting Indians across-the-board in defence of the PMO & IAF, this judgment has only divided the Indian polity, with each Indian now suspecting one another.

And why? All because of a verbal testimony by one of the original accused who has since turned approver for the Italian state prosecution. The Italian legal system is now saying via this judgment that a verbal testimony is the gospel truth & therefore no corroborative material evidence is reqd to back-up all that has been alleged. Therefore, the Govt of India, India's investigative agencies & the IAF HQ all be damned!!!

Only folks with a very low sense of self-esteem will lap it all up & will try in vain to conjure up conspiracy theories, like many Indian journalists & broadcast TV channels are now doing, along with political turncoats like Dr Subramanium Swamy. There's a simple solution to all this: the Govt of India should officially ask the Italian judiciary to back-up their verdict against Indian citizens like former CAS, ACM S P Tyagi, with corroborative material evidence. If no such thing surfaces, then the Govt of India should demand that that portion of the verdict dealing with S P Tyagi should be expunged from the records.

The Italian prosecutors had all the time to map out the money-trail originating from Finmeccanica & ending up with their financial beneficiaries. Yet, no such evidence obtained through forensic auditing was ever presented during the trial period. Why?

Why were the testimonies of the Indians accused of corruption not sought by the courts? None of these Indians were absconding & they were all available in India for questioning by Italian state prosecutors. So why were they denied their fundamental right to depose, as required by international law?

Are we therefore to believe that certain vested Italian parties were so powerful so as to influence the Italian judicial system?

And finally, is this Italy's way of exacting revenge against the IAF for having selected the Rafale after rejecting the Eurofighter EF-2000 in which Finmeccanica had a sizeable industrial stake?

Is this yet another plot to further delay the procurement of Rafale MMRCAs?

These are the larger questions that beg answers, & not which Indian took what, when, how much & why. And as for why it is IMPOSSIBLE for any IAF CAS or even a bureaucrat to unduly influence any procurement process, do listen to former the then VCAS, AM Barbora has to say in this interesting analysis:



What do you expect will happen when the country's RM himself has consistently proven that he gives contradictory statements time & again & is therefore highly prone to making flip-flops? Since late 2014 he has been saying during various media-sponsored events that the act of blacklisting has been counter-productive, & yet earlier this week he immediately jumped into the act & blacklisted Finmeccanica & all its subsidiaries based in the UK, Holland & Italy. What it all shows is that when it comes to the crunch, such pathetic politicians reflexively shirk away from their responsibilities by refusing to stand up & be held accountable for their words & actions. They thus want only power, but not responsibility & accountability. And that's exactly why the NDA-1 was unsuccessful in subjecting the Quattrochis to the Indian criminal justice system.

In any case, if India's national security interests are compromised, then no RM can ever be held accountable because the RM will simply point to the Govt of India's RULES OF BUSINESS manual, which states that the responsibility for the defence of India rests solely with the Defence Secretary of the MoD of India, and not with any Defence Minister. Therefore, in the worst-case scenario, AKA, Parrikar or any other politician in any organ of the Govt of India will always invoke this rule of the manual to escape from any accountability/responsibility & by consequence, will never stand trial for criminal negligence. Had Parrikar really been a well-meaning politician, the first thing he should have done was to change this regulation of the manual & he should have made the defence of India the RM's responsibility, & not the Defence Secretary's. But it seems even such elementary matters are too much too expect from folks who pride themselves as being IIT-trained technocrats!!!!!!

So, forget the Mi-38s or S-92. Instead, every VVIP destined to fly on helicopters will continue to make use of 6 of the IAF's earmarked Mi-17V-5s at their own peril, & they will be reqd to devise innovative ways of self-hypnosis (with the help of India's abundant stocks of indigenous Yogis, Sadhvis, Sadhus, Babas, Bhagwans etc etc) so that everytime they place their lives at risk by flying with such helicopters, they will all enter a trance which will make them believe that they're flying on-board the mythical Pushpak Rath (vimana). They should also bear in mind t6hat in the event of a fatal air-crash involving any IAF aircraft/helicopter, there's no chance of claiming life-insurance because the IAF as per govt regulations is indemnified from being subjected to any life-/accident-insurance claims. And it is my earnest hope that these pathetic politicians sooner rather than later start being subjected to such air-crashes when flying on-board the Mi-17 family of helicopters, so that it becomes my turn to proclaim that these are all 'Acts of God' that are aimed at exacting vengeance from immature & ill-intentioned mortal human beings.

Lastly, you will also have noticed that whenever such politicians go on campaign trails & log-in several flight-hours a day, they NEVER make use of the Mi-172s of Pawan Hans. Rather, they prefer to use Dauphin-2s or Bell 412s or AW-139s or Bell 407. That should tell you a lot about the level of trust placed by these pathetic politicians on the M-17 helicopter family.



Very early in the week itself I had the gut-feeling that certain vested interests in both India & abroad were trying their level-best to take full advantage of the latest Italian Court verdict & with the help of ill-informed turncoats like Dr Subramanium Swamy, were doing their level-best to subvert the procurement of Rafale MMRCAs & by consequence, portray the Eurofighter EF-2000 as an 'ehtically clean' alternative. I made a compelling assessment to this effect & sent it to the PMO & I have strong reasons to believe that both the PMO & the NSA have taken cognizance of this assessment & that explains why the Indian print & broadcast TV media have significantly lowered their coverage of the AW-101 affair over the past 48 hours, i.e. the shut-up call was issued.

Reports alleging financial payoffs to certain media-related Indian citizens have thus to be seen in this context, i.e. promoting the EF-2000 & dissuading India from procuring the Rafales.
May 2, 2016 at 12:06 AM



Hope Chaubey Ji possesses the common-sense to separate the wheat from chaff. Here’s how the on-going investigations will eventually play out: Both the CBI & ED will conclude that there was no wrongdoing, including by UK-based AWIL, WRT the sale-and-marketing campaign of the AW-101. In fact, it will dawn upon them fairly soon that, for the VVIP helicopter contract, there really was no competition from the day the AW-101 entered the scene simply because it, being a 3-engined helicopter, simply outperformed all other contenders in the crucial parameters concerning flight safety & crew/passenger survivability. Furthermore, AWIL had to be doubly careful in not engaging in any hanky-panky because it was eyeing a far bigger share of the pie, i.e. the IN’s reqmt for 12-tonne shipborne NMRHs. The corruption thus does not involve the MoD or IAFat all. But the CBI & ED being what they are, they will lose sight of the bigger picture where corruption was to have taken place.

And that involves the Italy-based AgustaWestland SPA subsidiary (totally different from AWIL) of Finmeccanica & that too for selling civilian utility/executive transport helicopters like AW-109P, AW-139 & AW-119 to civilian end-users like the Delhi Police, the CAPFs (like BSF & CRPF), Pawan Hans, & various state govts. The combined estimated market for all this, in terms of numbers, is more than 80. And it is here that Abhishek Verma & some politicians wanted to make a killing. Mind you, while all MoD-inked contracts have the Integrity Clause as mandated by the DPP, this does not apply to contracts inked with either the Union MHA, or the State Govts—a point always overlooked by almost everyone, including the CAG & CBI. It is this loophole that folks like Haschke, Verma & Gautam Khaitan were reportedly trying to exploit. But for purposes of mis-direction, Haschke, Gerosa & perhaps even Michel purposely drafted hand-written notes containing the job-titles of senior MoD bureaucrats & IAF officials—all aimed at deflecting the needle of suspicion in the event of anyone in India began smelling a rat.

Simple, elementary arithmetic & common-sense alone will bring the corruption enquiry to a successful conclusion by identifying the motive & the consequent intentions, & not reckless witch-hunting & vindictive politicking. That's what the CBI ought to focus upon, but maybe perhaps that is too much to expect.

May 4, 2016 at 4:13 AM


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Author name + declaration regarding alignment with any party + link of the source plz

Some of the claims sounds like twisting of facts by eminent lawyer :)
 
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Allegation-1: former UPA regime had created 'single-vendor situation' to benefit from the same.
Reality: How can that ever be possible? When the RFPs were released by IAF HQ, TWO OEMs responded with quotes & BOTH the AW-101 & S-92 were subjected to competitive evaluations/flight-trials. Therefore, how a single-vendor situation emerge when TWO competing helicopters are subjected to flight-trials is anyone’s guess. Perhaps RM Manohar Parrikar doesn’t understand English!

Allegations 2, 3 & 4: They (UPA) didn’t use AW-101 (which was bought) for field trials but used some other helicopter, which is fraud in itself. Why field evaluation trials were conducted outside India. Field trial in India was extremely important because topographical conditions here (in India) differ from that of in the US and the UK. Objective of purchase was VVIPs will be able to fly at greater heights.
Reality: Firstly, it was IMPOSSIBLE to conduct in-country field-trials because NONE of the two OEMs (AWIL & Sikorsky) had ready-made VVIP versions of the AW-101 or S-92 & that’s because VVIP flight versions of any fixed-wing or rotary-wing aircraft are always MADE-TO-ORDER. They never pre-exist. All that matters is that the end-user specify the operating/performance parameters & ensure that the procurement contract contains clauses that legally bind the winning OEM to ensure 100% compliance with the specified operating/performance parameters. That’s how it is done everywhere else in the world.

Secondly, both prior to & even 5 years after contract signature, there was not a single helipad available in India that existed at an altitude of 4,500 metres, leave alone 6,000 metres (19,685.04 feet)! So why specify a VVIP helicopter capable of landing at 6,000 metres above sea-level (ASL)? The highest place where IAF helicopters have gone to & landed to date is Point Sonam at 21,000 feet (6,400 metres) ASL & this feat can be done only by the 5.5-tonne Dhruv ALH, & no other helicopter. In fact, the only helipad in India that can accommodate 12-tonne + helicopters is the one at Gauchar in Kedarnath at an altitude of 11,600 feet, or 3,535.68 metres & the IAF is on-record for having stated on January 6, 2015 (after an IAF Mi-26T landed there) that this helipad is the highest landing in a civil environment made by such large helicopters. It was only in 2015 after the floods in J & K that the IAF built a new helipad & that too only for CASEVAC at a height of 16,000 feet (4,876.8 metres) near the snout of the Siachen Glacier & only Mi-17V-5s are to be used for air-logistics provision in this area in cases of emergency. But the Mi-17V-5 was NEVER even offered for the VVIP transportation role by Russia because Moscow had refused to sign the Integrity Pact & therefore no one from Russia responded to the OAF-issued RFP. Now whose fault is that?

Truth-of-the-matter is that in the first RFP for VVIP transportation helicopters issued by IAF HQ more than a decade ago, the service ceiling of 6,000 metres was specified PNLY BECAUSE it was ASSUMED that Indian VVIPs would go & land at such altitudes. In reality, no Indian VVIP ever achieved such a feat simply because no helipads even existed at such altitudes (it is impossible to build helipads with concrete surfacing for accepting either light or medium-lift helicopters). In fact, all the hype about VVIP visits to high-altitude areas was created only during the reign of George Fernandes as Defence Minister between 1998 & 2004, when it was claimed that he had visited Siachen Glacier 32 times. In reality, he & everyone else before him & after him have only ventured as far as the IAF’s Thoise air base near the IA’s Siachen Brigade HQ in Partapur, which is located at 12,000 feet 3,657.6 metres ASL. All that George Fernandes used to do was to FLY on an IAF SA.315B Lama/Cheetah) light helicopter above all the IA observation posts (OP) along the Saltoro Ridge. Not once did he ever land & spend time at any of these OPs. He simply couldn’t. Had he wanted to do so, he would have had to undergo 8 days of rigorous training and acclimatisation, without which he would never have received medical clearance to step off the helicopter at any of these OPs. And at such heights, there are no helipads on firm ground & therefore, no landing can be achieved; only a brief hover-period is possible for CASEVAC & unloading of supplies of perishable items. Small wonder, therefore, that even when Parrikar met soldiers of the Siachen Bde on May 22, 2015, he did so at Thoise. And PM NaMo did the same on October 25, 2014.


Allegation-5: People who lowered height was not NDA. It is a lie to say that NDA Govt was one which changed specification of height. But objective was that VVIPs should be able to fly to remote areas such as Siachen/north-east and therefore ought to fly at heights above 6,000 metres & should be out range of shoulder-fired rockets.
Reality: Please Dr Swamy, get real!!! Get the PMO to declassify the MoD file dealing with VVIP helicopter procurement & read the Directive drafted by Brajesh Mishra from the PMO that was dated December 22, 2003 and was addressed to the IAF HQ and CCed to the SPG’s Director. Furthermore, as already explained above, the height-lowering excuse does not exemplify malafide intent on anyone’s part because it enabled both the AW-101 and S-92 to compete. *** opposed to this, when the service ceiling was specified at 6,000 metres, this & only this had led to creation of a single-vendor situation, since only the Eurocopter EC-225 was compliant with this height-ceiling, while the Mi-17V-5 did not even exist at that time. In addition, if the idea is to avoid shoulder-fired MANPADS/VSHORADS, then one must accept that such SAMs can also be fired from plains & plateaus located at lower altitudes. So, does Dr Swamy mean to say that after liftoff the VVIP helicopter must climb ASAP to a cruising altitude of 19,000 feet & maintain this flight altitude through its cruising period? Has such a feet ever been accomplished before anywhere else in the world?

Allegation-6: IAF in January 2006 gave the benchmark estimate for this deal as Rs.793 crore. This was approved by the then Defense Minister A K Antony.
Reality: If this is true, then this should absolve the then IAF CAS, ACM S P Tyagi of all wrongdoing since under him the IAF had come up with the cheapest recommended option. Consequently, the then IAF CAS could never have favoured the AW-101. Actually, Dr Swamy has got it all wrong. The MoD’s benchmarked cost was Rs.4,877.5 crore while AgustaWestland’s offer-price was Rs.3,966 crore, meaning the former figure was 22.80% higher. The final negotiated figure was Rs. 3,550 crore. And all these figures are contained within the CAG’s report. Dr Swamy, it seems, is one hell of a convoluted & delusional personality. So kindly stop making India the world’s laughing stock, since your senseless antics only serve to malign our beloved PM’s pledge given to Indians worldwide in September 2014 in the Madison Square Garden (about not doing anything that will force any Indian to hang his/her head in shame).
May 5, 2016 at 3:38 AM

Author name + declaration regarding alignment with any party + link of the source plz

Some of the claims sounds like twisting of facts by eminent lawyer :)
Link:

http://trishul-trident.blogspot.co.uk/2016/04/italys-cruel-farce-indias-pathetic.html

As for trying to malign his comments by alleging he has certain partisan views- he has clearly gone after BOTH sides and all those dubious politcans involved in this entire shameful affair. Let's not make this another BJP vs CONgress matter. They are all the same after a point.
 
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This is a despicable hitjob, by a self righteous individual claiming moral supremacy by hurling invectives at everyone and anyone who will not subscribed to his version of half truth, canards and sterilized facts. I will not be surprised if he is indeed one of those paid to 'manage' the media.

The Italian court in their order confirms that that money to the tune of Rs 200 crores changed hands. If money was paid, money was undoubtedly received by someone. For heavens sake, the CEO Finmeccanica; and the CEO of AgustaWestland have been convicted, not indicted, of willful wrongdoing. In India, the Tyagi brothers have reportedly accepted to the CBI that they received a limited sum of money as part of a larger network for the 'services' rendered by them in support of this deal.

If that is not enough, the circumstantial evidence relating to the haste, and arbitrariness with which the deal was pushed was stated by the DM in the parliament. What the author of this piece suggests is tantamount to accusing the DM and GOI of deliberately stating lies in the Parliament. The seriousness of that charge is probably lost on the author. The government will have to resign if their statements were to be proven to have been deliberate lies.

That the IAF HQ and brass was compromised is no longer in doubt. Photographs of documents relating to this deal, marked top secret, were found in the possession of certain non-Indian individuals, a breach of IAF HQ. This necessarily constitutes a case for treason. If SP Tyagi, or his successor, or anyone, is found guilty of treason, he will face execution.
 
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A few additional observations on how RM Parrikar misled Parliament yesterday:

1) The reqmt for active MAWS had to be removed not because the IAF had insisted on QR/OR deviations, but because of the denial of the export to India by the US of DIRCM-type active MAWS. DIRCM was even denied for the IAF's BBJ fleet.

2) Parrikar alleges that two QRs were waived by the IAF for the AW-101, while they were not for the S-92. In reality, this had to be done when it is discovered that the S-92 would not come with on-board self-protection systems that were specified by the IAF as customer-furnished equipment. This is because while the IAF preferred an Israeli self-protection suite & AAR-60 dual-colour MAWS & Elbit Systems' omni-directional IR countermeasures decoy system, US regulations prevented it from installing such hardware on a US-origin helicopter, this being done by the US purely to avoid setting a precedent WRT future US weapons sales to Israel). Consequently, a time-frame of 39 months had to be given to AWIL to undertake additional systems integration work prior to commencing product deliveries, instead of the 36 months as earlier specified in the RFP.

3) Parrikar states that the IAF had benchmarked a per-unit acquisition cost of US$15 million per AW-101. In reality, this is simply preposterous, since a 12-tonne helicopter has to cost a lot more than a 5-tonne helicopter like the naval Super Lynx Mk.99 which, way back in 1998, was costing US$18 million & this was the unit-price at which the Super Lynxes were sold to the Royal Malaysian Navy by GKN Westland. I myself had commnunicated this figure numerous times to the concerned authorities in New Delhi at that time itself.

In short, Parrikar had no new revelations to make yesterday. he was just parroting all that had earlier been recorded in the factually-flawed CAG report.

May 5, 2016 at 9:41 AM
 
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Not want to be seen as biased. CAG finding on change in parameters are not addressed satisfactorily in the blog. Also blog does not factor in the "bribe" for which Italian court have sentenced some guys.

Parrikar will not say anything unless he has hard facts and "right political moment" inside the parliament, so lets wait and do not create another "Augsta" journalist moment where middlemen who is on interview spree claimed that reporting was managed in lieu of money or foreign travel.
 
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NDA needs to bring this Augusta scam to a defined conclusion. They have majority in LS and if they cannot put anyone from CONgress in jail, then it shows NDA, especially BJP only talks for sake of talk. Even if Modi govt manages to put a few CONgressi medium/big cronies in jail, it will shake the CONgressi leadership as well as our secular media.

If not, then lost opportunity for Modi and we will lose trust in him.

He should show action with 2019 in focus or be prepared to lose because CONgress will come back with 20 other allies.
 
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NDA needs to bring this Augusta scam to a defined conclusion. They have majority in LS and if they cannot put anyone from CONgress in jail, then it shows NDA, especially BJP only talks for sake of talk. Even if Modi govt manages to put a few CONgressi medium/big cronies in jail, it will shake the CONgressi leadership as well as our secular media.

If not, then lost opportunity for Modi and we will lose trust in him.

He should show action with 2019 in focus or be prepared to lose because CONgress will come back with 20 other allies.
If only brother.....

We all know it isn't going to happen, the Gandhis remain the de-facto "first family" of India and no one has the b@lls to take even 1% of their privlage away. Of course we are going to see some hardcore BJP supporters spinning the inability of their leadership to deliver on even their most fundamental promises or through these criminals in jail as a masterstroke and all part of some unseen (to us) grand strategy.

Instead, the GoI/BJP are taking the most despicable approach- mud slinging against the CONgress and exploiting the most poltical capital they can and in a few weeks they will simply move on to the next drama. Nothing will change.
 
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We all know it isn't going to happen, the Gandhis remain the de-facto "first family" of India and no one has the b@lls to take even 1% of their privlage away.

Because when someone is taking on the Gandhi's he is usually termed as a lunatic or "wasting time". Plenty of people who has the balls, only problem is they are ridiculed by people like yourself when they actually do take on the Gandhi's..

Of course we are going to see some hardcore BJP supporters spinning the inability of their leadership to deliver on even their most fundamental promises

Which promises are we talking about ? Time and again some idiot comes out with "nothing has changed" and time and again some one has to put a list of achievements, 2 months down the line we end up seeing the same post again.

Instead, the GoI/BJP are taking the most despicable approach- mud slinging against the Congress and exploiting the most poltical capital they can and in a few weeks they will simply move on to the next drama. Nothing will change.

This isn't a fast food restaurant where you can put someone in jail overnight, you are talking about a family who has deep roots within the country. Removing those roots and putting the family behind bars is going to take time and effort.
 
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Because when someone is taking on the Gandhi's he is usually termed as a lunatic or "wasting time".
On the contrary, the Gandhis are almost known criminals (that is the perception anyway) and yet no one seems to have the b@lls to actually ask the hard questions or see to it they are made to answer for their crimes. Yes yes, I'm sure it is much harder to do so than I could possibly fathom as power such as theirs would be immune from prosecution in almost every nation on earth. But it doesn't seem this GoI is serious about taking any concrete steps against the Gandhis other than some mud-slinging and furthering the perception war against the family.

Which promises are we talking about ?
-1984 justice?
-A slew of "big bang"reforms?
- "Putting Pakistan in its place"?
-Justice for terror victims in India?

This isn't a fast food restaurant, you are talking about a family who has deep roots within the country. Removing those roots and putting the family behind bars is going to take time and effort
I agree with you but other than some loud mouth in RS, no one seems interested in doing anything of the sort. Modi is quite happy to ignore the Gandhis even exist it seems.
 
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Congress party still has large amounts of wealth and with money comes power, believe me they are here to stay for another 50-100 years.

Cut the finance and you will see the demise of the party
 
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On the contrary, the Gandhis are almost known criminals (that is the perception anyway) and yet no one seems to have the b@lls to actually ask the hard questions or see to it they are made to answer for their crimes. Yes yes, I'm sure it is much harder to do so than I could possibly fathom as power such as theirs would be immune from prosecution in almost every nation on earth. But it doesn't seem this GoI is serious about taking any concrete steps against the Gandhis other than some mud-slinging and furthering the perception war against the family.

You might have forgotten, they are out on Bail, unless and until NDA did their home work, there was no way in hell they would have been on bail over the National herald scam. Wait for 5 years, 2 years is nothing compared to how much time it takes for the judiciary to function.

-1984 justice?
-A slew of "big bang"reforms?
- "Putting Pakistan in its place"?
-Justice for terror victims in India?

- 1984 - I agree
- As for Big bang reforms , GST is not the only big bang reforms , a lot of important bills has been passed recently Bankruptcy code bill, plugging tax loopholes etc...
- How precisely do you do that ? The Border has been relatively quiet for a long time, Troops have the freedom to fire at will , you haven't seen those SSG's along with LET cross the border. as for whats going on in the intelligence field, no one really knows. As for recent Pathankot incident you have your spin on it and i Have mine.
- What do you mean by Justice ? Truth is Pakistan can never stop aiming terrorists at India, because if they did, these same vultures will turn on them. There were several threads in this forum(later deleted) how Lal Masjid incident had damaged the Pakistani military. Even rumors suggesting SSG commandos involved in the incident were killed later on . Imagine what would happen if they gave up on LET and JEM ?

I agree with you but other than some loud mouth in RS, no one seems interested in doing anything of the sort. Modi is quite happy to ignore the Gandhis even exist it seems.

Subramaniam Swamy was given seat in RS for the very same perpous. HE pretty much unleashed him a
and the it only turns out he is getting support from within the govt. By the way, i suggest you watch the entire Augusta debate by Swamy and Parrikar, All these points in your OP have been disproven in parliament
 
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Just saw the NDTV bucks stop here interview with the main agent in Dubai, worth watching it was.
 
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