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You cannot say the gap is widening just by looking at the difference from one quarter.

Yes the graphs show that the gap between Tesla and German makers increased between Q2 to Q3 but it decreased substantially between Q1 and Q2.

Overall, between Q1 and Q3 the gap has narrowed from Tesla having an over 3 times advantage in sales to less than 2 times.


The problem with slower growth in ID 3 sales may be that they are being hit more with the chip shortage than Tesla is:


"However, Volkswagen, like many other OEMs, is currently struggling with the worldwide chip shortage. Due to the semiconductor crisis, the basic model of the VW ID.3 with the 45 kWh battery cannot be ordered at the moment. New orders will only be possible again from 2022."


Yes, Tesla is still more innovative as it managed to find a way round the chip shortage:


"We were able to substitute alternative chips, and then write the firmware in a matter of weeks,” Musk said. “It’s not just a matter of swapping out a chip; you also have to rewrite the software.”


I am sure that changes in company processes and culture are being made at VW to be able to better compete with Tesla.

Tesla is driving standards in the whole industry upwards and that can only be a good thing for consumers around the world.
 
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I'm 100% sure that if Tesla was a Chinese company you will be singing their praises on here day and night. In fact I'm sure you guys will have a threads dedicated to them on here. Lol
Don't understand why people have to hate on a good company just because it's from a country they don't like that much. 🤦🏾‍♂️

Nope I've called out Chinese vaporware like the straddling bus multiple times. Vaporware is vaporware. The only difference is that Chinese consumers call out vaporware and will never believe con artists (unfortunately, due to experience).

For example BYD is the real deal. They have their own IP in battery, semiconductor, drivetrain, etc. They have moderate P:E ratio, strong earnings growth, are fully vertically integrated in auto manufacturing and have been around for decades in electronics, chemicals and automotive parts sectors.

I never post about XPeng or Nio because just like Tesla in 2014 they've yet to prove themselves. But they also haven't outright lied. Tesla in 2021 has outright lied multiple times in the last 7 years.
You cannot say the gap is widening just by looking at the difference from one quarter.

Yes the graphs show that the gap between Tesla and German makers increased between Q2 to Q3 but it decreased substantially between Q1 and Q2.

Overall, between Q1 and Q3 the gap has narrowed from Tesla having an over 3 times advantage in sales to less than 2 times.


The problem with slower growth in ID 3 sales may be that they are being hit more with the chip shortage than Tesla is:


"However, Volkswagen, like many other OEMs, is currently struggling with the worldwide chip shortage. Due to the semiconductor crisis, the basic model of the VW ID.3 with the 45 kWh battery cannot be ordered at the moment. New orders will only be possible again from 2022."


Yes, Tesla is still more innovative as it managed to find a way round the chip shortage:


"We were able to substitute alternative chips, and then write the firmware in a matter of weeks,” Musk said. “It’s not just a matter of swapping out a chip; you also have to rewrite the software.”


I am sure that changes in company processes and culture are being made at VW to be able to better compete with Tesla.

Tesla is driving standards in the whole industry upwards and that can only be a good thing for consumers around the world.

You know what really helps in getting new chips? Having a trillion USD in investor money so you can pay for priority turnaround.
 
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Nope I've called out Chinese vaporware like the straddling bus multiple times. Vaporware is vaporware. The only difference is that Chinese consumers call out vaporware and will never believe con artists (unfortunately, due to experience).

For example BYD is the real deal. They have their own IP in battery, semiconductor, drivetrain, etc. They have moderate P:E ratio, strong earnings growth, are fully vertically integrated in auto manufacturing and have been around for decades in electronics, chemicals and automotive parts sectors.

I never post about XPeng or Nio because just like Tesla in 2014 they've yet to prove themselves. But they also haven't outright lied. Tesla in 2021 has outright lied multiple times in the last 7 years.


You know what really helps in getting new chips? Having a trillion USD in investor money so you can pay for priority turnaround.
Do you have a BYD EV car or SUV?
 
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Do you have a BYD EV car or SUV?

Is this supposed to be some kind of gotcha when BYD passenger cars aren't sold in the US?

Do you personally own Tesla cars? Those ARE sold everywhere in the US.
 
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Is this supposed to be some kind of gotcha when BYD passenger cars aren't sold in the US?

Do you personally own Tesla cars? Those ARE sold everywhere in the US.
Nope. I am just wondering how much real experience you have, instead of repeating what is in the news.
 
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Nope. I am just wondering how much real experience you have, instead of repeating what is in the news.

You have to personally drive a car to have an opinion about a car?

I have ridden BYD commercial electric buses before. It is no different than any other bus I rode except quieter. If they have equivalent private EV quality - and there's no reason to suspect they don't - it is a likely to be a highly economical and reliable.car.
 
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You have to personally drive a car to have an opinion about a car?

I have ridden BYD commercial electric buses before. It is no different than any other bus I rode except quieter. If they have equivalent private EV quality - and there's no reason to suspect they don't - it is a likely to be a highly economical and reliable.car.
It would be drastically different if you own one or just drive one. That is why I never promote any of those EV cars since I don't own one and I haven't driven one. All I have learned about them are on paper only.
 
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It would be drastically different if you own one or just drive one. That is why I never promote any of those EV cars since I don't own one and I haven't driven one. All I have learned about them are on paper only.

I've driven but not owned an EV before. It was good for driving with smooth capacitive braking and low noise, but the paranoia of running out of power without convenient recovery was too much. So I do know that they have some better characteristics than pure ICE cars.
 
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