Terror attack in christmas market in Berlin

[waz]

To say that I am sad is an understatement. This is such a wonderful time of the year, people are happy and there is peace all around and then this.
If it is terrorism, which looks increasingly likely, then the blame does lie with Germany's federal government and the chancellor herself.
RIP to all the poor victims.

 

[waz]

As much as I disagree with @MarkusS on my things, and we're on the complete opposite end of the political spectrum, I respect his rights to his views and to be controversial without being offensive.

I saw what he wrote, considered it at the time, but didn't make any changes because I felt it wasn't my job to censor him for believing something I don't. Moderators don't do that, we deal with offensive or off-topic/flaming content, which I don't consider this to be.

I recognize the far-right is divisive and I don't agree with much, if anything that they stand for, but Markus isn't breaking any rules that I wouldn't by saying "Hail Arbeiderpartiet!!"

I understand, I really do and if @waz feels differently then I'll let him take action, but I believe in letting Markus express his political identity as he chooses, so long as he isn't being offensive about it or using it to incite violence or hatred, which in this case he isn't. I also make and recognize a distinction between ISIS and parties like Forza Italia, just like I make a distinction and recognize the difference between the Red Brigade and Arbeiderpartiet - Norway's Labour Party.

Waz, I'll leave the decision to you. It's almost midnight and I'm going to bed.

I'll leave it, and agree that his stance is political. They parties that people don't like but they can stand for elections and have not been linked to criminal activities.

 

[Indika]

please...we all know what happened.

The owners of the truck said he lost contact to the driver 16:00. 4 hours before this. Witness say he came without lights and smashed through the market, when it stopped he jumped out and ran away. They got him...

The Welt reporte police knew a attack was planned in berlin area on christmas market but had no further details.

I have a brain... we all know what happened. And we all know what the solution must look like.

Calm down dude, let more info come through we will know whether it is terror attack or not. Most of the time when accidents take place ppl do run away from the place thats normal.

RIP to the dead. sympathies for the family, such incident during festival will leave painful memories for a very long time.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

As much as I disagree with @MarkusS on my things, and we're on the complete opposite end of the political spectrum, I respect his rights to his views and to be controversial without being offensive.

I saw what he wrote, considered it at the time, but didn't make any changes because I felt it wasn't my job to censor him for believing something I don't. Moderators don't do that, we deal with offensive or off-topic/flaming content, which I don't consider this to be.

I recognize the far-right is divisive and I don't agree with much, if anything that they stand for, but Markus isn't breaking any rules that I wouldn't by saying "Hail Arbeiderpartiet!!"

I understand, I really do and if @waz feels differently then I'll let him take action, but I believe in letting Markus express his political identity as he chooses, so long as he isn't being offensive about it or using it to incite violence or hatred, which in this case he isn't. I also make and recognize a distinction between ISIS and parties like Forza Italia, just like I make a distinction and recognize the difference between the Red Brigade and Arbeiderpartiet - Norway's Labour Party.

Waz, I'll leave the decision to you. It's almost midnight and I'm going to bed.

Well articulated.

 

[Steve781]

Their blood is on your hands Angela Merkel.

 

[Kabira]

No sign of driver, we don't know yet but could be ISIS.

 

[Vassnti]

Well terrible accident such incidents do unfortunately happen world wide , someone is angry and they drive into stuff happens all the time

Obviously prayers are with the victims on such tragic accident or event of interest

By the way when there were bombs dropping on Syria TV was showing music and concert for last 3 years

wonder why they were showing Music and concert when people were dying in Syria

People only feel pain when it hits home , when it happens across someone else's neighbourhood , then it is all cool you can have your Superbowl , you can have your NBA championship
Chill and have a BBQ and I myself am part of community that focuses on entertainment and easy life , but these WAR happen in our life , yet the news and media censor it out !!! They don't force the leaders of the world tos top war .. and it is what it is

Now what can we say some one became a lunatic and caused a tragic event

I mean if weapons were supplied to Terrorist organizations to destroy Syria obviously now someone is pissed off Syrian , who finally realised you fucked over his life

and who is the YOU ?

Did the children Christmas shopping ship weapons to Syria?
Did they attend the superbowl?
Were they broadcasting music?

There is no by the way or but your country did this so its fair.
The innocent have once again been slaughtered
We should weep for them as we did for the children of Pehawar.

Politics is for another page and another day

 

[Oublious]

If this was a terror attack why would the driver stop and run away? The driver is working 15 years for the company, drunk driver is the result.

Update

The dead co driver is a Polish guy...

 

[Surenas]

Suspect arrested is reportedly a Pakistani:

https://twitter.com/x/status/810980559866494976

 

[Bouhmeed]

This story is weird the guy doing the attack hijacked a truck ?

 

[Penguin]

Police said they could not confirm whether it was a deliberate attack or an accident. They said the truck had a runup of about 80 metres before the crash.They said the vehicle had a Polish registration and belonged to a Polish delivery company. According to the firm, the truck left Poland on Monday afternoon, heading to Berlin. The company said it lost touch with the driver at 4pm local time.
German police said one person was found dead in the lorry, having died of injuries sustained in the crash, while a suspect was arrested about 100 metres away in the Tiergarten. Police said they could not confirm whether that person was the driver.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/dec/19/berlin-truck-crashes-into-christmas-market

Co-driver Polish national, suspected driver's nationality unclear.
The fate of the driver of the truck was not immediately clear, with Bild newspaper said he was on the run.
Meanwhile German police have arrested a "suspicious person" believed to be the driver.
The lorry belongs to a Polish firm based in the northern town of Gryfino, just a stone's throw from the German border.
The company owner said the vehicle involved in the incident was new and only had about 30,000 kilometres on the clock.
German police said that the dead passenger in the truck's passenger seat was Polish, the nationality of the suspected driver is still unclear.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/12/19/lorry-ploughs-crowd-christmas-market-berlin/

German police have detained the suspected driver. A police spokesperson confirmed the arrest and said the truck’s co-driver died during the crash.
http://www.euronews.com/2016/12/19/...wd-at-a-christmas-market-in-berlin-one-person

the driver of the truck was at large immediately following the suspected attack but German police have reported that one suspect has been arrested and that he is suspected of having been the driver of the truck. No information about the suspect has yet been released. Police have confirmed that a passenger in the truck was killed.
http://www.spiegel.de/international...in-christmas-market-kills-nine-a-1126642.html

 

[Mootaz-khelifi]

i read a news in arabic say that it's not confired that it it terror or not

 

[foxtrot1]

is this true? ae ki ho gaya

https://twitter.com/x/status/810985273286946816

https://twitter.com/x/status/810984599744561153

 

[Baybars Han]

So it's a Polish radical christian terrorist

 

[Abingdonboy]

People literally justifying this are utterly disgusting.... which country did Germany "bomb" or "invade" ?

The typical despicable induviduals are out to justfiy these atrocities.

What do you expect from these kinds of people? To some terrorism is a fair game.