Terror attack in christmas market in Berlin

[maximuswarrior]

They have to relate finger prints to the guy driving truck , if these don't match then it was just a case of randomly picking up a "man" a colored man from park.

By the way Pakistan government has not indicated the person was Pakistani since it was also reported it was a afghan refugee

1- Doubts over afghan refugee or Pakistani
2- Petty criminal description - Yet was not deported , folks get deported for crimes
3- Passport / Data not hsared on birth certificate / passport from Pakistan / family tree
4- Viral Networks are running with news with out Pakistani Government's acknowledgement of his nationality

Now doubts over his involvement in crime !!! The police itself said it openly

• Government of Pakistan should sue newspapers and international media for using unvarfied information
• The viral networks have spread this news over 100-300 news/ blog / network sites

Pakistan has been handing out Pakistani passports like hotcakes to Afghans. This is going to hurt Pakistan in the long run. There are some Afghans that I personally know who have the Pakistani passport in possession in The Netherlands. I know them personally and they are acquaintances.

 

[Saifullah Sani]

Xmas market attacker a 'Pakistani', says German interior minister

German Interior Minister Thomas de Maiziere on Tuesday said the suspect of the Xmas market attack is a Pakistani who had arrived in Germany seeking asylum.

Authorities arrested the suspect about 2 kilometers (1 miles) from the crash site on suspicion of having been at the wheel of the truck.

The suspect, however, has denied involvement in the attack, the interior minister said.
“He denies the act,” de Maiziere told journalists, adding that the suspect is Pakistani and had arrived in Germany on December 31, 2015, seeking asylum.

His request was still pending, the minister said, adding that Monday's bloodshed had so far not been claimed by the militant Islamic State group or any other militant group.

De Maiziere said however: “We have no doubt that this terrible event was an attack.”

Police chief casts doubt

Berlin's police chief also voiced doubt that the detained Pakistani man was behind the deadly truck rampage, which would mean the perpetrator remains at large.
“It is indeed uncertain he was the driver,” Klaus Kandt told a press conference.
“The initial evidence has been limited”, said the police chief.

Europe divided

The mass influx of migrants and refugees to the European Union has deeply divided its 28 members and fuelled the rise of populist anti-immigration movements that hope to capitalise on public concerns next year in elections in France, Germany and the Netherlands.

On Tuesday morning, investigators removed the black truck from the site for forensic examination. People left flowers at the scene and notes, one of which read: “Keep on living, Berliners!”

One woman was crying as she stopped by the flowers.
Berlin police are investigating leads that the truck had been stolen from a construction site in Poland.

Authorities said a Polish man was found shot dead inside the vehicle, but minister de Maiziere said no gun had yet been found.

Bild newspaper cited security sources as saying the suspect was named Naved B. and had arrived in Germany a year ago. In legal cases German officials routinely withhold the full name of suspects, using only an initial.

Local broadcaster rbb cited security sources as saying the man came to Germany via Passau, a city on the Austrian border, on Dec. 31, 2015.

Die Welt said police special forces stormed a hangar at Berlin's defunct Tempelhof airport at around 4am . It said, without citing its sources, that the arrested man was registered there.
A refugee there who gave his name only as Ahmed told Reuters security guards had told him there was a raid at around 4am.

Prosecutors declined to immediately comment on the report.

'Fear of evil'

Merkel and de Maiziere both stressed the need for Germans to remain uncowed by the attack.
“We do not want to live paralysed by the fear of evil,” said the chancellor, who discussed the attack by phone with US President Barack Obama and convened a meeting of her security cabinet.

“Even if it is difficult in these hours, we will find the strength for the life we want to live in Germany - free, together and open.”

Other European countries said they were reviewing security.
Austrian Interior Minister Wolfgang Sobotka said he had told the heads of regional police forces to intensify surveillance measures.

He called for biometric and fingerprint checks to be introduced along the Balkan route travelled by many migrants arriving in Europe, in order to better control foreign militant fighters' movements.

London police said they were reviewing their plans for protecting public events over the festive period.

Flags hung at half-mast around Germany on Tuesday and Berlin Christmas markets were closed for the day out of respect.

The German soccer league announced a minute's silence at all matches on Tuesday and Wednesday, at which players will wear black ribbons.

Dresden tourist information service said authorities had erected concrete blocks around the Striezelmarkt, one of Germany's oldest Christmas markets, to increase security.
Festive markets selling ornate, often hand-crafted decorations, seasonal foods and hot spiced wine are a beloved tradition in Germany.

Manfred Weber, head of the centre-right European People's Party, said: “It's not an attack on a country; it's an attack on our way of life, on the free society in which we are allowed to live.”
Twelve people were killed in the assault at a shopping district popular with tourists, and 48 people injured, including 18 who are severely wounded.

http://www.dawn.com/news/1303453/xmas-market-attacker-a-pakistani-says-german-interior-minister

 

[Well.wisher]

Yes it is. Intolerance is by product of Islamic radicalizm. I am glad that there was no Pakistani involved in this incident but that does not by the slightest detract from or change anything I said. There are one to many incidents across the world where infortuately people of Pakistan extraction or from Pakistan are involved and I won't even go into the extemist radical Islam that is tearing the guts out of Pakistan inside the country - who are Pak Army fighting? Athiests, Communists or Buddhists? Every second day some Mullah is giving out threats or fatwas against another group.

So don't use this change of narrative as bridge to escape from the thrust of what I said - it still stands and is visible to all.

How are actions of mullahs or terrorists fighting with pak army has to do something with our nation's concept of islamic radicalism?
We have been fighting with those who were created by our politicians.
Whole world was messed up after 9/11 so were we . We were having a peaceful islamic doceity before this . How can be our basic concept be held responsible for this all mess on whom we got this beautiful land .

If politics interfere in an islamic matter , then it all becomes just self serving . If there wasn't interference of politics , our concept of Islamic radicalism would've been a shining example for whole world .

The soceity of pakistan is trapped with numerous problems , lack of education , lack of tolerance toward other opinions , poverty, corruption . That's what been causing us a serious blockage , it has nothing to do with our real concept of this nation .

 

[maximuswarrior]

Xmas market attacker a 'Pakistani', says German interior minister

German Interior Minister Thomas de Maiziere on Tuesday said the suspect of the Xmas market attack is a Pakistani who had arrived in Germany seeking asylum.

Authorities arrested the suspect about 2 kilometers (1 miles) from the crash site on suspicion of having been at the wheel of the truck.

The suspect, however, has denied involvement in the attack, the interior minister said.
“He denies the act,” de Maiziere told journalists, adding that the suspect is Pakistani and had arrived in Germany on December 31, 2015, seeking asylum.

His request was still pending, the minister said, adding that Monday's bloodshed had so far not been claimed by the militant Islamic State group or any other militant group.

De Maiziere said however: “We have no doubt that this terrible event was an attack.”

Police chief casts doubt

Berlin's police chief also voiced doubt that the detained Pakistani man was behind the deadly truck rampage, which would mean the perpetrator remains at large.
“It is indeed uncertain he was the driver,” Klaus Kandt told a press conference.
“The initial evidence has been limited”, said the police chief.

Europe divided

The mass influx of migrants and refugees to the European Union has deeply divided its 28 members and fuelled the rise of populist anti-immigration movements that hope to capitalise on public concerns next year in elections in France, Germany and the Netherlands.

On Tuesday morning, investigators removed the black truck from the site for forensic examination. People left flowers at the scene and notes, one of which read: “Keep on living, Berliners!”

One woman was crying as she stopped by the flowers.
Berlin police are investigating leads that the truck had been stolen from a construction site in Poland.

Authorities said a Polish man was found shot dead inside the vehicle, but minister de Maiziere said no gun had yet been found.

Bild newspaper cited security sources as saying the suspect was named Naved B. and had arrived in Germany a year ago. In legal cases German officials routinely withhold the full name of suspects, using only an initial.

Local broadcaster rbb cited security sources as saying the man came to Germany via Passau, a city on the Austrian border, on Dec. 31, 2015.

Die Welt said police special forces stormed a hangar at Berlin's defunct Tempelhof airport at around 4am . It said, without citing its sources, that the arrested man was registered there.
A refugee there who gave his name only as Ahmed told Reuters security guards had told him there was a raid at around 4am.

Prosecutors declined to immediately comment on the report.

'Fear of evil'

Merkel and de Maiziere both stressed the need for Germans to remain uncowed by the attack.
“We do not want to live paralysed by the fear of evil,” said the chancellor, who discussed the attack by phone with US President Barack Obama and convened a meeting of her security cabinet.

“Even if it is difficult in these hours, we will find the strength for the life we want to live in Germany - free, together and open.”

Other European countries said they were reviewing security.
Austrian Interior Minister Wolfgang Sobotka said he had told the heads of regional police forces to intensify surveillance measures.

He called for biometric and fingerprint checks to be introduced along the Balkan route travelled by many migrants arriving in Europe, in order to better control foreign militant fighters' movements.

London police said they were reviewing their plans for protecting public events over the festive period.

Flags hung at half-mast around Germany on Tuesday and Berlin Christmas markets were closed for the day out of respect.

The German soccer league announced a minute's silence at all matches on Tuesday and Wednesday, at which players will wear black ribbons.

Dresden tourist information service said authorities had erected concrete blocks around the Striezelmarkt, one of Germany's oldest Christmas markets, to increase security.
Festive markets selling ornate, often hand-crafted decorations, seasonal foods and hot spiced wine are a beloved tradition in Germany.

Manfred Weber, head of the centre-right European People's Party, said: “It's not an attack on a country; it's an attack on our way of life, on the free society in which we are allowed to live.”
Twelve people were killed in the assault at a shopping district popular with tourists, and 48 people injured, including 18 who are severely wounded.

http://www.dawn.com/news/1303453/xmas-market-attacker-a-pakistani-says-german-interior-minister

They are constantly relating it with Pakistan. The ridiculous thing is that their police chief says that they don't even know whether this "Pakistani" guy was the actual lorry driver. They probably picked him up somewhere as a suspect.

Now imagine such headlines trending all over the world. What will this do for Pakistan? No one will even care afterwards if it turns out whether the culprit wasn't a Pakistani. The first accusations are always the most damaging. The damage seems to be done already.

 

[Well.wisher]

Spot on 100%. Remarkable thing is the Turks are now also getting infected.

@save_ghenda . You can blame the politicians who corrupted this concept but the ummah concept in whole ,is a realistic and beautiful concept .

It can be a great advantage to all muslims if only we learn to play wisely and also taking our interests in consideration too.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

You can blame the politicians who corrupted this concept but the ummah concept in whole ,is a realistic and beautiful concept .
It can be a great advantage to all muslims if only we learn to play wisely and also taking our interests in consideration too.

Having no borders. Having no nationalties. Having all the worlds wealth divided equally amongst all humans. Forgive and forget. Having no divisions between all humans is even more beautiful concept. It's called humanism.

And ever bothered to read what communism preaches? Equality for all humans in law, in rights, in wealth. As theoretical concepts I can think of half a dozen that are far better. It is practice that makes something. We can all dream up pie in the skies ....

Hell even John Lennon dreamed up mind bending concepts ...

 

[YeBeWarned]

Not a Pakistani German Police confirmed .. Saw it on BBC/CNN ..
to all Indians and @MarkusS people should not be too judgmental when it comes to Terrorist and act of Terrorism , Even if he was a Pakistan i would still wish that Germans would have taken him out like a Savage, i have some very very very Good Friends in Germany and from them i heard about this incident , Europeans need to understand that someone is pushing them into this war so this clash becomes more about Ideologies , The Far right Extremist and ISIS has one thing in common, they both use dead for Propaganda in order motivate people to get into a fight ..ISIS will love European to bomb or invade any Arab Country following the Attacks on them so they can recruit more , you can't fight when people are motivated by religion plus if you keep giving them reason to recruit more and more people to fight, same theory goes to Europeans , if the Right wing keep motivate and scare tact to kick out or kill Muslims for the likes of this Douche bag than it wont solve anything but complicate it more ..

Can we just say that Europe can Deport all Muslims ? NO but lets say they do , but can those Europeans promise that after that they will not interfere or involved in any War which will be against any Muslim Country ? both parties know they cant so they are doing just politics .. those who died were innocent don't do politics over the dead man it is disgusting .

 

[Mrc]

Sky is saying the real culprit is atlarge...

http://news.sky.com/story/berlin-christmas-market-suspect-may-still-be-at-large-10702930

 

[Well.wisher]

Can you give an example of this intolerance?

Intolerance is a characteristic of our pakistan soceity .
We're intolerant toward religions , ethinicity and racially .
Our politicians even are intolerant toward each other's criticism .

 

[Mage]

Intolerance is a characteristic of our pakistan soceity .
We're intolerant toward religions , ethinicity and racially .

Every society has their share of intolerant folks

 

[Qutb-ud-din Aybak]

The Pakistani arrested had denied the charges.
Police also thinks the real culprit is some one else.
the Pakistani was arrested near that place. not near or inside truck.

 

[Well.wisher]

Having no borders. Having no nationalties. Having all the worlds wealth divided equally amongst all humans. Forgive and forget. Having no divisions between all humans is even more beautiful concept. It's called humanism.

And ever bothered to read what communism preaches? Equality for all humans in law, in rights, in wealth. As theoretical concepts I can think of half a dozen that are far better. It is practice that makes something. We can all dream up pie in the skies ....

Hell even John Lennon dreamed up mind bending concepts ...

Humanism is no different than islamic concept of muslim ummah .
Free of racism , nationalties , giving wealth to the poor one , forgiving forgetting , focusing on whole community's advantages rather than one person , concentrating on justice etc .

Nowadays , we need to work on muslim concept of ummah as it's the only resort that can end up all sunni shia conflicts especially in syria etc , it's an urgent need of muslim ummah .
In past OIC and arab helped us a lot.

However, I appreciate your communism system . If both muslim ummah and communism prevails in a soceity , we'll defeat all problems .

You can dream of communism and I dream of muslim ummah concept , not much issue .

Every society has their share of intolerant folks

Sure it has .
And we need to work on ours . Ours is much higher .

Here people get killed for being a Punjabi in balochistan, being shia deserves death , being a woman we also face intolerance toward our freedom , politicians kill each other for differences . Etc etc

Intolerance is the root cause not islamic radicalism.

 

[Khafee]

People are conveniently forgetting a fact:

The said perpetrator has a track record, for getting in trouble with the law. The truck was carrying steel beams, which could easily be worth +/- Euro100k. This could very well be a case of truck hijacking gone wrong.

 

[terry5]

Having no borders. Having no nationalties. Having all the worlds wealth divided equally amongst all humans. Forgive and forget. Having no divisions between all humans is even more beautiful concept. It's called humanism.

And ever bothered to read what communism preaches? Equality for all humans in law, in rights, in wealth. As theoretical concepts I can think of half a dozen that are far better. It is practice that makes something. We can all dream up pie in the skies ....

Hell even John Lennon dreamed up mind bending concepts ...

looney alert
you post like a white man your thinking's of a white man have you ever been to Pakistan

John Lennon lol

Imagine there's no heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
And no religion, too

aethiest national anthem

 

[H!TchHiker]

Here is classic from Trump
"He added: “Isis and other Islamist terrorists continually slaughter Christians in their communities and places of worship as part of their global jihad."

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...blame-latest-news-updates-lorry-a7485936.html