Tensions rise between Sri Lanka and India ahead of June meeting

[hal-fgfa]

Tamil police are then essentially terrorist. So papa terrorist wants to finish the job that LTTE couldn't do.

These mo**ns wonder why the Canadians call these losers violently anti-human.

if u want to believe on western countries ... they they also say a lot about pakistan also .... so can we consider that also
(from were you originally belongs )

 

[hal-fgfa]

Your book is missing a lot of pages, you should get a refund for that garbage if you paid for it.

well i dont think u want to see original pages of 1971 history book ????

 

[psychedelic_renegade]

How to ignore someone? I'm not able to find the button.

 

[KS]

Tamil police are then essentially terrorist. So papa terrorist wants to finish the job that LTTE couldn't do.

These mo**ns wonder why the Canadians call these losers violently anti-human.

Is ur brain situated in ur head or in ur @$*..?

If India had supported LTTE then nobody could ve finished it...First understand that.
Indian Navy started giving crucial intelligence reagrding floating LTTE arms caches to SL Navy and thats how LTTE was finished.
Even if IN had turned a blind eye then LTTE would have still been ruling the North and East SL.

Rajiv paid for the mother, and the mother paid her own dues. What goes around, comes around.

Ingorance being exhibited huh....Let me spoon feed u..

Indira got killed due to Operation Bluestar while Rajiv was killed due to his sending of IPKF troops to SL to mediate between SL and LTTE.

If you don't get it, read some non-Indian sources. Actually Arundhoti Roy would be a great Indian source if she has any article about LTTE.

Arundati Roy..? Then i think Taslima Nasreen would be a credible source to gain knowledge abt Islam.

and btw..are u just pulling ur statements out of ur arse..? ..they seem to..

 

[illuminatidinesh]

Rajiv paid for the mother, and the mother paid her own dues. What goes around, comes around.

If you don't get it, read some non-Indian sources. Actually Arundhoti Roy would be a great Indian source if she has any article about LTTE.

Really what goes around, comes around? May be this also suits u I think. Again I dont want to be harsh but let me remind u that U lack basic knowledge about what u r talking. Better leave it......

 

[fallstuff]

if u want to believe on western countries ... they they also say a lot about pakistan also .... so can we consider that also
(from were you originally belongs )

Non-Indian source =/= Western news

Excerpts from Frontline , from the publishers of THE HINDU.
Vol. 14 :: No. 24 :: Nov. 29 - Dec. 12, 1997

Full of holes

A new booklet documents how the Interim Report of the Jain Commission failed to highlight the role played by the Congress(I) and the AIADMK in supporting the activities of Sri Lankan Tamil militants.

T.S. SUBRAMANIAN
in Chennai

THE Interim Report of the Jain Commission has single-mindedly worked on the premise that the survival and growth of the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE) in Tamil Nadu was a plan nurtured by the Dravida Munnetra Kazhagam (DMK) Government of 1989-1991 led by M. Karunanidhi. In doing so, the report has discounted the part played by the Congress(I) Governments of Indira Gandhi and Rajiv Gandhi at the Centre, and the AIADMK Government of M.G. Ramachandran in Tamil Nadu in encouraging Tamil militancy as an element of India's schizoid policy on the Sri Lankan Tamil issue.

Congress(I) Governments at the Centre and the AIADMK Government have played important roles in the arming, financing and military training of the LTTE and other Sri Lankan Tamil militant groups, which include the Tamil Eelam Liberation Organisation (TELO), the People's Liberation Organisation of Tamil Eelam (PLOT), the Eelam People's Revolutionary Liberation Front (EPRLF), the Eelam Revolutionary Organisation (EROS) and the Eelam National Democratic Liberation Front (ENDLF).

When Congress(I) vice-president Jitendra Prasada described the DMK as "anti-national", Karunanidhi retorted that "those who love the country will understand who is anti-national." He further recalled that the LTTE was not declared an anti-national organisation when it fought the IPKF in Sri Lanka, a conflict that caused heavy casualties on both sides. Karunanidhi said, "If Indira Gandhi and Rajiv Gandhi support the LTTE, they become desh bhakts (patriots). If Karunanidhi supports it, the LTTE becomes anti-national. This is the argument put forth by the Jain Commission's report."

Frontline presents a gist of the Central Government policy on this issue derived from its in-depth coverage of Sri Lankan affairs and recent secondary sources, in particular Jain Report - Buried Facts (Volume 1), a 36-page booklet published by the Thinkers' Forum in Chennai. The booklet has documented the generous help given to the LTTE and other groups by Indira Gandhi, Rajiv Gandhi and M.G. Ramachandran. Between 1983 and 1992, the Indian Government's policy on the Sri Lankan Tamil miltants swung from one exteme to the other.

To start with, India gave the Sri Lankan Tamil militant groups red carpet treatment. They were trained in guerrilla warfare and provided with arms, ammunition and financial support. They were permitted to organise training camps in Tamil Nadu. Then, to stem the tide of inter-group rivalry sparked off by the struggle for supremacy among the militant groups, they were disarmed and their communication sets confiscated. Rajiv Gandhi's assassination on May 21, 1991 and the consequent ban on the LTTE changed the situation irrevocably for the Sri Lankan Tamils, militant or refugee. Tamil refugees were prevented from reaching the shores of Tamil Nadu.

In 1983, Prime Minister Indira Gandhi acted on the belief that an armed struggle by Sri Lankan Tamils - perceptibly backed by India - would bring the Sri Lankan Government to the negotiating table. By late 1983, the training of TELO, EPRLF, PLOT and EROS cadres had begun at Chakrata (near Dehra Dun) in Uttar Pradesh. LTTE cadres were trained later in Karnataka (Bangalore cantonment) and Uttar Pradesh (Frontline, January 17, 1992).


Tamil Nadu Chief Minister M.G. Ramachandran with LTTE leader V. Prabakaran in February 1985.

The trained cadres of all the groups, including the LTTE, set up 30 camps in Tamil Nadu. Chief Minister M.G. Ramachandran of the AIADMK never raised objections as camps came up at Koli Hills, Magaral, Kulathur, Sirumalai, Orathanad, Theni, Pattukottai, Kumbakonam, Uchipuli, Vikravandi, Aranthangi and so on. Trained cadre were housed in safe locations at Uchipuli, Mantapam, Thangachimadam (all around Rameswaram) and Arcotthurai, Vizhunthamavadi, Vedaranyam and Point Calimere (around Nagapattinam) and were later ferried to the Jaffna peninsula to fight the Sri Lankan Army. Injured cadres were similarly brought back to Tamil Nadu for treatment.

As quoted in Jain Report - Buried Facts, K. Mohandas, the former Director-General of Police (Intelligence), Tamil Nadu, says in his book, MGR: The Man and the Myth (p.77): "...each training camp was a mini-Union Territory completely controlled by Central agencies, into which the State intelligence or the State police had no entry. It was almost a take-over of chunks of Tamil Nadu territory by the Centre, but MGR was unmoved."

M.G. Ramachandran was known particularly to patronise the LTTE over the other groups. LTTE leader V. Prabakaran had easy access to M.G. Ramachandran, who often donated large amounts of money to the LTTE. The Indian Government had arranged the supply of arms - rifles, pistols, rocket propelled grenades, rocket launchers and rockets - to the militant groups.

Lt. Gen. Depinder Singh, the Overall Force Commander of the IPKF, corroboates these facts. Depinder Singh writes in his book, The IPKF in Sri Lanka: "In one of his many informal chats with me later on, Prabakaran was to confide that they received massive doses of financial and military assistance from India and were provided training facilities in Tamil Nadu. Interestingly, during 1983 and 1984, the Intelligence Bureau and the Research and Analysis Wing (the two Indian intelligence agencies) got directly involved in training the militant Tamil groups and providing assistance to them."(pp.17-18 quoted in Jain Report - Buried Facts

Link: http://www.thehindu.com/fline/fl1424/14240260.htm


Excerpts by Ashok Mitra from Rediff

Ashok Mitra

A commission, before it proceeded to draw up criminal proceedings against others, must recommend Indira Gandhi's posthumous prosecution

Even absurdity must have its limits.The early 1980s are yet to be altogether history, Indira Gandhi was the nation’s prime minister. She knew her mind. For whatever reason, she had taken a liking for Velupillai Prabhakaran and his Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam. A special dispensation was granted by her to the LTTE which has not been granted till now even to any of the state governments in this country.

Prabhakaran was permitted to set up a clandestine transmitting station from where exhortatory messages were constantly beamed across to Tamil insurgents hiding in Sri Lanka’s northern jungles.The constitutional grey line, whether the right of transmission from Indian shores could be accorded to foreign parties, was brushed aside. The cost of installing the transmission station was borne in entirety by the Government of India. Indira Gandhi in fact did much more for the LTTE.

Under her specific instructions, transit camps were set up by the Research and Analysis Wing in a number of locations in Tamil Nadu. Apart from arranging camping facilities to Tamil rebel contingents visiting in search of both arms and instructions in the use of arms, Indira Gandhi actually asked RAW to help out the LTTE with financial accommodation.

The government of Tamil Nadu -- never mind whether it was M G Ramachandaran or M Karunanidhi who happened to be the incumbent chief minister -- was requested by the Centre to turn a Nelson’s eye to LTTE activities: it was our holy duty – so it was implicitly understood – to provide operational bases on Indian soil for the fighting Tigers.

Karunanidhi or MGR, whoever was in charge of the state administration, would receive confidential messages from New Delhi and the state’s coffers for the LTTE. Sri Lankan Tamils were considered as flesh of our flesh. Given the record of our own freedom struggle, it was inconceivable that our government would not express solidarity for the LTTE cause and adopt measure to further that cause without breaching diplomatic formalities.

This attitude began to change only when the LTTE started its ruthless policy of systematic assassination of the top leadership of other insurgent groups in Sri Lanka. There was revulsion at the brutal killings the LTTE engaged in, and facilities granted to Prabhakaran and his men were gradually withdrawn. Sympathy for the Tamil emigrants seeking a place under the sun in Sri Lanka nonetheless did not quite wither away. Call it her stratagem or her vision, her foreign policy -- Indira Gandhi was insistent -- must in all seasons pack a fund of goodwill for the global underdogs wherever they might be. Sri Lanka, of course, was right next door. A subjective element additionally influenced her attitude toward the LTTE

Link:Rediff On The NeT: Ashok Mitra on how Indira Gandhi sowed the seeds of hate

The great news is there are hundreds of articles available on the net that one can read. But the trolls first have to pull their heads out to read those.

 

[Desert Fox]

Its funny you mentioned that. Two of my team mates visited another company for a demo of a product we have. One of the guys thr said his parents are from Indian side of Punjab but was born and brought up in Birmingham. My team mates : one an Englishman and another a welsh guy believed him.

I went for a second round after the company expressed interest in our product to clarify the technical issues and then this dude tells me he is from Pakistan!

Anyways, that is OK, I am not surprised at all.

funny, i was also in a similar situation except that the guy turned out to be an india.

 

[ramu]

funny, i was also in a similar situation except that the guy turned out to be an india.

OK , I believe you

 

[Dash]

Who ever says that China, Pakistan, Nepal, Bangladesh Srilanka will wipe out India in 2020 is not correct. I will give least importance to this statement as this is made out of "weed",

however the reality will be by 2030 all of the above countries will be our true friends, We got freedom not so long ago and couldnt give enough time to our neighbours due to our internal issues.

However we are active in this area now, and Iam sure we will be all like a family very soon.

Let all come togather in dreaming a powerful Asia

 

[!!craft!!]

2020 pakistan,srilanka, bangladesh, afghanistan,nepal and china kick indian *****....india will be conquered soon by pakistan, bangladesh, nepal, srilanka and afghanistan....they took all the resouces of india and indias economy and development will be theres...in 2020 no state lf india will exist under the rulership of current establishment..the name of india will exist from srilanka to kashmir afghanistan to bangladesh under the rulership of honest people living in the neighbours of india

a die heart fan of mr zaid hamid are you??? man you are really overflowing with testosterone... next time do use it in you tube there are loads of crack pots like you over there...

 

[IND151]

India–Sri Lanka Relations
Sri Lanka (Ceylon until 1972), with its mixture of Buddhist and Hindu institutions, has always been Indian in culture, though its identity is distinct from its northern neighbor's. The Sinhalese language occurs only in Sri Lanka and has a distinguished literary tradition. Likewise, Theravada Buddhism remained the religion of the island, while Hinduism displaced it on the subcontinent.

From the third century BCE, Ceylon was involved in the politics of southern India for more than a millennium. Beginning in 177 BCE, it faced a succession of invaders from southern India and itself invaded mainland kingdoms as political alliances shifted, until they finally broke down in the twelfth century. In the fourteenth century, the Sinhalese kingdom moved near the coast, where the rulers, originally southern Indian traders, founded the Kotte Kingdom (1415–1580). Merchant communities moved back and forth between Ceylon and the mainland. These included Chettiar traders and bankers who traveled throughout South and Southeast Asia. Muslims came for trade and on pilgrimage to what they believe is the footprint of Adam on a mountain still called Adam's Peak.

European colonial rule (1517–1948) restrained relations between Ceylon and India. The British East India Company briefly united Ceylon with India, but in 1802 the British removed it from company control and ruled it directly as a Crown Colony. The governments of the two colonies were separate at the level of the British Parliament, sometimes leading to disagreements on trade, labor migration, navigation, and transport.

People of Indian Origin
During British colonial rule, Indians and Ceylonese were British subjects, and many Indians migrated to the island to work on plantations. Administrative separation and the British compulsion to classify their subjects, however, discouraged assimilation. Earlier migrants, such as the karava and salagama castes, who arrived before the colonial era, became fully Sinhalese; but during British rule communities of Indian origin were considered "Indian" even after generations on the island.

With British support, Chettiars eventually dominated domestic finance in Ceylon. They traded between India and Ceylon and were intermediaries between British bankers and Ceylonese clients, both as guarantors for borrowers, and as moneylenders who borrowed money from banks for relending at high interest. Since many Chettiars retained their Indian identity, their role occasioned anti-Indian animosity on the part of Ceylonese traders and planters.

Plantation workers were and are primarily of southern Indian origin. The resident labor population grew as coffee, tea, and then rubber plantations advanced across central and southwestern Ceylon. The Indian government could not insist on the protection that indentured migrants had elsewhere because they could not control emigration, due to the proximity of the island. The Indian Emigration Act No. 7 of 1922 demanded reformed treatment of Indian immigrants on threat of prohibiting emigration altogether, a threat finally enforced in August 1939. Indian intervention resulted in improved wages, educational opportunities, housing, and health services for plantation laborers.

Tamil immigrants sought employment in other occupations in Ceylon, often in menial, low-wage occupations. Recent Indian immigrants made up about one-sixth of the population in the 1920s and 1930s— a serious concern for the indigenous population, and a matter of legitimate national interest for India. When the Great Depression struck, Sinhalese politicians condemned merchants, moneylenders, and laborers of Indian origin.

Under the Sinhalese-dominated State Council (1931–1946), voting rights of people of Indian origin were restricted. Jawaharlal Nehru (India's first primeminister) and D. S. Senanayake (prime minister of Ceylon, 1947–1952) met fruitlessly several times in the 1940s to settle the question of their citizenship. Ceylon finally passed three citizenship and franchise acts that effectively made people of Indian origin stateless. As recently as November 1964, only 140,185 people who had applied for citizenship by registration were granted it, while 975,000 remained stateless. That year India and Ceylon negotiated the Sirima-Shastri Pact, under which Ceylon agreed to grant citizenship to 300,000 people (later raised to 375,000) and their progeny. More than 630,000 applied, but when the pact expired in October 1981, only 162,000 people of Indian origin had been registered as Sri Lankan citizens. In the same period, 373,900 received Indian citizenship and 284,300 were repatriated to India. Legislation in the 1980s finally granted citizenship to the remainder.

India has served as a temporary home for Tamil refugees fleeing the ethnic fighting in Sri Lanka. Here, a Sri Lankan Tamil family stands with their belongings on Manar Island, Sri Lanka, after their return from India. (HOWARD DAVIES/CORBIS)
Civil War
India has been active in several ways in the ethnic conflict ravaging Sri Lanka. India's responses were influenced by its own Tamil separatist movement, which waned in the 1960s, and its position after the 1971 Indo-Pakistan war as the most powerful South Asian state. After 1977, Sri Lanka abandoned neutralist foreign policy, becoming openly pro-Western when India was forging closer Soviet ties.

As violence against Tamils increased in Sri Lanka, militant separatists organized and trained in Tamil Nadu in southern India, possibly with Indian support. When civil war erupted in July 1983, more than 100,000 refugees from northern Sri Lanka fled to India. These events, and increased violence by security forces against Sri Lankan Tamils, made the crisis the major political issue in the Indian state of Tamil Nadu.

Mediation by India's central government began after July 1983, and Indian-facilitated proposals to resolve the conflict were presented to an All Party Conference that met fruitlessly throughout 1984. President Jayawardene of Sri Lanka and India's prime minister Rajiv Gandhi met in early June 1985, and the Sri Lankan government and Tamil organizations held peace talks in August at Thimpu in Bhutan, but these efforts failed too. In late 1986 talks were held in Delhi, which arrived at a proposal for devolution of power that would allow considerable autonomy at the provincial level.

After severe fighting in Jaffna in April and May 1987, India intervened directly. India wanted neither Sinhalese hegemony over the Tamil minority (unacceptable to Indian Tamils) nor the establishment of a separate state (which would encourage secessionist movements among India's Tamil population). An agreement between the governments of Sri Lanka and India "to establish peace and normalcy in Sri Lanka" was signed on 29 July 1987. To ensure implementation, India stationed more than 60,000 troops in the northern and eastern provinces of Sri Lanka as the Indian Peace Keeping Force (IPKF).

By October 1987, the IPKF was waging all-out war against the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE). IPKF maintained order in parts of northern Sri Lanka and helped conduct elections in 1988 and 1989, but withdrew in March 1990 after more than 1,200 soldiers had died. On 21 May 1991, an LTTE suicide bomber assassinated Rajiv Gandhi, who as prime minister had negotiated the peace agreement. India banned the LTTE and has not intervened since, although it opposes creation of a separate Tamil state and has been asked by some Tamils to facilitate peace talks.

India and Sri Lanka signed a Free Trade Agreement in 1998 and were working to eliminate trade restrictions in early 2000. Both nations are active in the South Asian Association for Regional Cooperation (SAARC), which was established in 1985 and also includes Bangladesh, Bhutan, the Maldives, Nepal, and Pakistan. Tensions between India and Pakistan have impeded progress toward multinational cooperation, however, and the November 1999 summit was postponed indefinitely because of India's protest of the military coup in Pakistan.

Further Reading
Bullion, Alan J. (1995) India, Sri Lanka and the Tamil Crisis, 1976–94. New York: Pinter.

Dubey, Ravi Kant. (1993) Indo-Sri Lankan Relations with Special Reference to the Tamil Problem. 2d ed. New Delhi: Deep & Deep Publications.

Gunaratna, Rohan. (1993) Indian Intervention in Sri Lanka: The Role of India's Intelligence Agencies. Colombo, Sri Lanka: South Asian Network on Conflict Research.

Muni, S. D. (1993) Pangs of Proximity: India and Sri Lanka's Ethnic Crisis. Newbury Park, CA: Sage/PRIO.

Sahadevan, P. (1995) India and Overseas Indians: The Case of Sri Lanka. Delhi: Kalinga Publications.

This is the complete article, containing 1,292 words (approx. 4 pages at 300 words per page).
INDIA SRI LANKA FRIENDSHIP ROXXXXXX!

 

[IND151]

We dont have PROBLEMS WITH ALL NEIGHBOURS all but china and our friends in west!