Temple remains found while levelling land in Ayodhya

[Naofumi]

There is a thread on Rubika Liaquat where he is saying Dr. Kalam is a non Muslim and almost called him a BJP stooge

Only Kalam? Maybe you should've asked about more.

 

[TheGreatMaratha]

It started as an intellectual struggle from the gift of language called Urdu against which Hindus would pit Hindi with Sanskrit script.

Hindus would look at it differently actually. It's the Muslims who adopted foreign Arabic script against their local scripts. So it's the Muslims trying to distinguish themselves from Hindus. It doesn't matter to me as much as Hindi is not my native language.

And it culminated in participating in the freedom of struggle from British which also helped Hindus get their freedom from them.

You mean to say Muslims helped Hindus get freedom from British? Thanks for adding that context.

But Muslims wanted to live separately from Hindus for which they didn't shy away to undergo a bloody (literally) partition to heir the land of Pakistan legitimately.

It was a good decision actually.

Something the thankless Hindus soon forgot afterwards, and didn't accept the creation of a new neighboring nation from its heart.

We accept that. Why do you get the notion that India rejects Pakistan as a country.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Please report it then!- Sorry you feel that way.

Please don't feed the trolls. You are obviously having an exchange with someone. Either ignore him or report him.

 

[Moriro]

So you love your violent history. What is happening now is just comeuppance that is why the likes of @jamahir are afraid. You on the other hand are safely hidden somewhere else.

Its irony that despite of being so huge in south asia hindutva are still trying to find some easy targets among local muslims to took out their frustration, why don't you accept the reality that your ancestors were cowards and oppurtunistics as much as like you today generation of hindutva. Its not like your ancestors were completely on the recieving ends, They did fought against muslim forces and they had numerical superiority even then yet they still defeated by muslim forces fair and square , so why to cry on events when your ancestors were failed to defend their bharat mata despite of having all that resources are needed for victory.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Everyone hates rss,,, #metoo
But can anyone here explain the origins of rss? How's n why's I mean.

Are you asking seriously?

But honestly speaking, is it so unbelievable that the moqsue could have been build on an old temple? Im sure there are thousands of places of worship built on ruins of other places of worship, so why is this so hard to belive? What am i missing here?

You are missing the identification.

There are many places in India that are thick with ancient remains only a few feet below the topsoil. So should you subscribe to every local old wives' tale that insists that the Moon came to earth and stood on that spot?

What is wrong?

Your statement.

 

[Brar]

He is not.

He is a Hindutva nationalist.

Do you get the difference?

Not sure if i do, but thats ok. Point is, here on defence.pk sanghi is used for many for every other indian, no matter if he is a actual member of RSs, sangh parivar etc.

 

[El Sidd]

Sure, I too use the word nation for India when I know it's wrong to say so. Words lose significance even for Indians when they use it. You see.

The only thing that make India a nation is its enmity with Pakistan.

And my definition of nation is something that unflinchingly binds the people through thick & think. And Indians are not even thankful to Pakistan for that.

It's best display occurs when a general election is around in India.

its a collection of princely capitalist states with the agenda of maximum exploitation of the masses through divide and conquer.

 

[TheGreatMaratha]

But you have to draw clear lines bro. Even OBL may have said 1-2 things correct but that doesn't make him to followed on.

We have a Marathi natak/play on Godse called 'Mi Nathuram Godse Boltoy' where Godse's views are put forward. I personally don't support his killing of Gandhi but I'm just talking about putting forward different views. Savarkar was strongly against casteism and cow worship. He wanted Indians to have scientific temper.

 

[El Sidd]

Thank you so much dear- I was worried, what if El Sidd did not give me permission to celebrate in peace-Much appreciated.

Khair Mubarak

 

[Joe Shearer]

Not sure if i do, but thats ok. Point is, here on defence.pk sanghi is used for many for every other indian, no matter if he is a actual member of RSs, sangh parivar etc.

There is a difference between what bigoted Pakistanis use to sneer at Indians, and what Indians aware of the distinction use.

We have a Marathi natak/play on Godse called 'Mi Nathuram Godse Boltoy' where Godse's views are put forward. I personally don't support his killing of Gandhi but I'm just talking about putting forward different views. Savarkar was strongly against casteism and cow worship. He wanted Indians to have scientific temper.

Why does that make his bigotry about Muslim and Christian citizens acceptable?

 

[Joe Shearer]

Its irony that despite of being so huge in south asia hindutva are still trying to find some easy targets among local muslims to took out their frustration, why don't you accept the reality that your ancestors were cowards and oppurtunistics as much as like you today generation of hindutva. Its not like your ancestors were completely on the recieving ends, They did fought against muslim forces and they had numerical superiority even then yet they still defeated by muslim forces fair and square , so why to cry on events when your ancestors were failed to defend their bharat mata despite of having all that resources are needed for victory.

Mind your language.

 

[Naofumi]

We have a Marathi natak/play on Godse called 'Mi Nathuram Godse Boltoy' where Godse's views are put forward. I personally don't support his killing of Gandhi but I'm just talking about putting forward different views. Savarkar was strongly against casteism and cow worship. He wanted Indians to have scientific temper.

Brother, even Osama can be said to be against American imperialism, we have to draw lines somewhere and in that line either Osama is on our side or he's not, no matter how many "truths" he have spoken. Casteism doesn't need a Savarkar when we had an Ambedkar.

 

[TheGreatMaratha]

Oye, G***i, there was a time when languages like Persian and Urdu were official languages and you needed to learn them to get government jobs. It was nothing to do with "distinguishing themselves". It had insecure Hindus who pit their Gangetic slum script against other ones.

Reported.

 

[El Sidd]

We have a Marathi natak/play on Godse called 'Mi Nathuram Godse Boltoy' where Godse's views are put forward. I personally don't support his killing of Gandhi but I'm just talking about putting forward different views. Savarkar was strongly against casteism and cow worship. He wanted Indians to have scientific temper.

What God will be this temple be dedicated to?

 

[xeuss]

There are very few Muslim Indian Nationalists and any Muslim who shows even a little bit of Nationalism is labeled as a BJP stooge by likes of @xeuss

Your definition of nationalism is steeped in Hinduism and includes pulverization and oppression of minorities.