Tejas Light Combat Aircraft: The not so Indian fighter

[Muhammad Omar]

You of course don't require the help of the media........

In term of Indian Media yeah i don't

 

[Bang Galore]

In term of Indian Media yeah i don't

Yup, you certainly don't......

 

[Donald Trump]

Hahah!

So much for indigenous and other crap sprayed by Indians on this forum!

Hahah!??? And how much of the JF is Pakistani? All systems, weapons & munitions for the JF-17 are imported from China & it doesn't have much Pakistani material content.The RD-93 turbofan engine that powers the JF 17 is also imported from Russia.

So much for indigenous and other crap sprayed by you guys on this forum!

 

[Maarkhoor]

The Air Force has decided to place an order for 100 new and improved Tejas Light Combat Aircraft. However, despite being in the works since 1983, the light fighter is nowhere near indigenization and almost 70% of the aircraft's systems still need to be imported.


THE FOREIGN CONNECT An audit by the CAG brought out that despite claims that only 35% of the fi ghter depends on foreign systems, the actual figure is closer to 70%.


Engine: Effort to develop the Kaveri engine failed, forcing the purchase of GE 404 powerplants from the US.

>Flight control system actuators: Considerable development delay leads to purchase from foreign sources.

>Multi-mode radar:

Joint HAL-LRDE project failed, Israeli company roped in.

>Radome:

Initially developed by ASL, failed to meet standards, imported from the UK.

THE DEFICIENCIES The Air Force and Comptroller and Auditor General identified the following glaring deficiencies in the fighter:

>Lack of a trainer:

The LCA still does not have a certified trainer version to coach pilots.

>Mission simulator:

The lack of a full-mission simulator for the aircraft also a hindrance to training.


> Increased weight, reduced internal fuel capacity, front pilot protection system weakness, reduced speed key deficiencies.

> Performance issues with the radar warning receiver and counter-measure systems.

> Original sanction for project was Rs 560 crore that has been increased to Rs 10,397 crore.

THE LCA LEGACY In the works since 1983, the LCA project is an example of how things went off target in Indian research and development.

1983-LCA project sanctioned to replace the MiG 21 fleet. Technical specifi cations framed in 1985.

1998-Was the target date for the induction with a total projected requirement for 220 fighters.


2001-The actual first flight of the aircraft took place, five years behind schedule.

2013-It took an agonising 12 years from first flight to an initial operational clearance in which the aircraft met basic parameters.

2014-The first LCA is inducted but is still not combat worthy. Several defi ciencies remain, besides incomplete weapons tests and integration.

2015-Government asks IAF to order 100 more of an improved version of the LCA. This in addition to an earlier order for 20.

WHAT THE IAF WANTS NOW To be able to commit fully to an order for 100 more LCA fighters, the Air Force wants these four things to be in place at the earliest:

> Active Electronically Scanned Array (AESA) radar to track incoming targets

> Integration of a long range beyond-visual-range missile

> Air-to-Air refuelling capability to enhance its range

> Modern electronic warfare capability to enhance survivability of the aircraft

Read more at:
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/49398335.cms?utm_source=contentofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst

only few parts India (HAL & DRDO) develops one of them is over engineered heaviest landing gear for single engine plane which is also faulty cauz entire fleet grounded (entire fleet mean only 6 operation test planes)

 

[BDforever]

The Air Force has decided to place an order for 100 new and improved Tejas Light Combat Aircraft. However, despite being in the works since 1983, the light fighter is nowhere near indigenization and almost 70% of the aircraft's systems still need to be imported.


THE FOREIGN CONNECT An audit by the CAG brought out that despite claims that only 35% of the fi ghter depends on foreign systems, the actual figure is closer to 70%.


Engine: Effort to develop the Kaveri engine failed, forcing the purchase of GE 404 powerplants from the US.

>Flight control system actuators: Considerable development delay leads to purchase from foreign sources.

>Multi-mode radar:

Joint HAL-LRDE project failed, Israeli company roped in.

>Radome:

Initially developed by ASL, failed to meet standards, imported from the UK.

THE DEFICIENCIES The Air Force and Comptroller and Auditor General identified the following glaring deficiencies in the fighter:

>Lack of a trainer:

The LCA still does not have a certified trainer version to coach pilots.

>Mission simulator:

The lack of a full-mission simulator for the aircraft also a hindrance to training.


> Increased weight, reduced internal fuel capacity, front pilot protection system weakness, reduced speed key deficiencies.

> Performance issues with the radar warning receiver and counter-measure systems.

> Original sanction for project was Rs 560 crore that has been increased to Rs 10,397 crore.

THE LCA LEGACY In the works since 1983, the LCA project is an example of how things went off target in Indian research and development.

1983-LCA project sanctioned to replace the MiG 21 fleet. Technical specifi cations framed in 1985.

1998-Was the target date for the induction with a total projected requirement for 220 fighters.


2001-The actual first flight of the aircraft took place, five years behind schedule.

2013-It took an agonising 12 years from first flight to an initial operational clearance in which the aircraft met basic parameters.

2014-The first LCA is inducted but is still not combat worthy. Several defi ciencies remain, besides incomplete weapons tests and integration.

2015-Government asks IAF to order 100 more of an improved version of the LCA. This in addition to an earlier order for 20.

WHAT THE IAF WANTS NOW To be able to commit fully to an order for 100 more LCA fighters, the Air Force wants these four things to be in place at the earliest:

> Active Electronically Scanned Array (AESA) radar to track incoming targets

> Integration of a long range beyond-visual-range missile

> Air-to-Air refuelling capability to enhance its range

> Modern electronic warfare capability to enhance survivability of the aircraft

Read more at:
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/49398335.cms?utm_source=contentofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst

 

[Rangila]

In arriving at this percentage, the CAG does not differentiate between essential design-related and high technology aspects of the LCA and readily available products.

Whether it by cost or by the equipment used - either of them haven't been specified as well.

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That INR 560 crore was not the budget for the entire Tejas programme, but merely for “feasibility studies and project definition”, which also included creation of the infrastructure needed for the new fighter.

The infusion of funds for actual design, development and building of prototypes only began in 1993, with the funds allocated under the heading of full scale engineering development. The figures represent the sanctioned cost not the actual amount of money spent.

Essentially, the CAG report is an auditor’s review of a complex, high technology platform development, which involves risks and uncertainties that are not easily captured in a simple balance sheet assessment of targets and budgets.

CAG is an autonomous body which is apolitical.

Why would it defraud constitution/GOI who have entrusted them to exist? Why would it mislead the entire nation? What is the motive?

If it was right on multi billion dollars scam on (more complex) G2, CWG, why would it err on such a national security issue?

Must you people be frivolous and throw your flippant stuff here without doing your adequate audit of your own, which I think you are incapable of?

To claim that CAG has erred - Come up with taller evidence.

People like you are dime a dozen. If you think you are unique and one of a kind, prove your worth on this matter prudently yet succinctly ...

And finally, the onus is on you (complainant) to furnish the entire CAG report on this and point out one by one, where & what of it!

Other than that....You are all hat no cattle...

Perdone moi..

 

[Abingdonboy]

Welcome to the 21st century and the globalised world.

The amount of technology and processes ADA and HAL have had to develop for the LCA is immense and will never be reflected by purely analysing the indigos content on the LCA- this is a highly misleading measure. Even though some components may be foreign the integration is all done in India, the plane has been designed,tested and flown in India from the outset. No one can take away these achievements from india.



And to all the Pakistanis (predictablly) jumping with joy, please point to a single Pakistani designed component on the JF-17. The MKI is more Indian than the Thunder is Pakistani- stop cheerleading for your big brother.