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Is Tarek Fatah Baloch or Pashtun? Either way, I have rarely seen an Indian hating Pakistan and certain Pakistanis (I think mainly Punjabis?) as much as this man does.
Presuming the news is true, it clearly says there was altercation because he called two guys 'Pakistani' and 'khalistani'.
Which is understandable because in India word 'Pakistani' is considered a gaali (cussword). {I mean seriously}
Why are Pakistanis here celebrating that word 'Pakistani' is considered as cussword?
What he said is terrible but its doubtful he will say this to any random Muslim, unless provoked. If one is capable of thinking from other perspective, would understand that, what people like Taslima Nasrin, Tarek Fatah is to Islam, left is to Hinduism. For Muslims, Tarek Fatah bad mouths Islam just like left does to Hinduism. Hence he is hated by Pakistanis, Indian Muslims and left brigade alike.
this reminds me of a story that I read not too long ago, both Harbir and Tarek fateh were involved
https://m.facebook.com/CovertWires/posts/735119903182196
TAREK FATAH’S DISINFORMATION CAMPAIGN: DELIBERATE AND DECEPTIVE ALLEGATIONS AGAINST TOGADIA- Titu Shadowson.
Excerpts......."...On 24th November 2013, Praveen Tagodia was in Amritsar for an exclusive function attended only by invitees of VHP and Tarek Fatah claimed to have chatted with Tagodia in that function. It is so far not clearly known whether Tarek Fatah really attended the occasion or not but it is certain by now that he didn’t chat with Tagodia at all. Tarek Fatah may have trespassed into the function by the virtue of being a journalist and accompanied by a journalist company. Then the cunning Fatah posted a Twitter update and a Facebook update to malign VHP that Dr. Tagodia has vowed to him that he will wipe out all the Muslims from the face of this earth using ‘their’ missiles.
The very next day Praveen Tagodia held a conference and clearly denied knowing any such Tarek Fatah and meeting one (his statement has been given in appendix) and asked an unconditional apology otherwise legal action. However the lies and propaganda-disinformation of Tarek Fatah went on and quite expertly and confidently he posted a bizarre story of his great escape and then deleted it. Tarek Fatah posted a video where he was seen in a car leaving for Amritsar Airport. However the story that was accompanied with it was that ‘VHP-Badal controlled’ Punjab Police sent its ‘corrupt’ rowdies to beat him and it was his 3 companions whom he didn’t name but we clearly know, Harbir Singh Nain, Bhole Vishwakarma and Mohammed Hasnain bribed the Punjab Police rowdies to save him. And thus this man left the nation after successfully maligning India.
Various points are noteworthy here that clearly show what an expert deceiver and liar this Tarek chap is. Firstly, the uninvited and trespassed man Tarek with photo junkies like Bhole and semi-journalist like Harbir and with a mission to get some story over there; could neither post any picture of Tarek Fatah meeting or chatting Tagodia, let alone leave having a video or audio of the provocative claims. And see who makes such provocative claims without posting any evidence, the man who screenshots even a dissentient comment from a stupid Facebook user and who clicks even a woman purchasing winter cloths. From such enthusiast photo junkies we have no substantial proofs. And when the section of Indians with inquisitive mind didn’t buy his bullshit, the frustrated liar bashed those Indians as “admirers of genicidical maniacs”. No surprise, Tarek has a habit to bash anyone who refuses his bullshits. But still he doesn’t provide any proofs for his bullshit claims and rather provides some story links to make his false blames look probable powered by benefit of doubt.
Secondly, even as Tagodia was unaware of Tarek’s masterpiece lies against him, Tarek thought that it would look another probable ‘fact’ that VHP sent Punjab Police rowdies to ‘beat’ him. However by that time Tagodia was still unaware and till now he has not taken any step other than asking for unconditional apology otherwise legal action. Right then he didn’t lodge even a complain but Tarek Fatah and company had posted a full video of his ‘great escape’ from his hotel and in his video we could see nothing but a interior of a car running on a road and the outside. However here too he didn’t show up any Punjab Police member as he claimed that Punjab Police rowdies wanted to beat him and his friends ‘saved’ him through illegal means. But later when they realized that this bribe allegations can land if not him but Harbir to jail, he deleted the entire video (we could not save it, however we have back up proofs of his nefarious claims about Punjab Police). Another surprising fact is that he directly fled from Punjab Police to Amritsar Airport and left for Brussels. My God, even a writer of a spy thriller can’t make such coinciding timing of Punjab Police raiding, tickets ready to flee and plane available at moment, we salute to Tarek Fatah. What surprises me is that Tarek and company tried to show India that he is the friend of India, (“…India, we have a problem…a huge problem) and malign VHP as the enemy of India, but his disinformation mission starting with defaming VHP, ended up maligning India as a nation whose police not only beats up foreign journalists but also corrupt to the core. Surely corrupt, but not in this case, and at least we are not Pakistan to beat foreign journalists......."""""" READ OUT MORE AT THE ABOVE LINK.
What he said is terrible but its doubtful he will say this to any random Muslim, unless provoked. If one is capable of thinking from other perspective, would understand that, what people like Taslima Nasrin, Tarek Fatah is to Islam, left is to Hinduism. For Muslims, Tarek Fatah bad mouths Islam just like left does to Hinduism. Hence he is hated by Pakistanis, Indian Muslims and left brigade alike.
Not true. Indian Muslims just hate Tarek Fatah.If someone in the quote is trying to imply here that Muslims of india cannot tolerate Fateh to criticize Pakistan then you should know what's coming next
The problem is that you can stop two person fighting but can't stop two communities when there are mutiple voices and lack of understanding. And with the involvement of politics it becomes even harder. If Left brigade needs to malign RSS for thier political reasons they do it by maligning Hinduism, which polarises Hindus and then the cycle continues. It all comes down to who started first.Paint the Indian Muslims as Pakistani Agents or traitors through decoy like Tariq Fateh and let's take some action against Minority that ruling class does not like them at all but in the end, it is going to damage Indian if you see it from the wider prospective.
True. One more difference is that Arundhati Roy does that in India while Tarek Fatah is exiled from Pakistan.He has the same knack of annoying Pakistanis that Arundhati Roy has of annoying Indians. But Roy is definitely more polished and refined and uses far better language. Fateh has 3 or 4 points he keeps repeating - a. Khan of Kalat b. Balochistan c. Pakistan and Jinnah are mistakes - that's about it.
Not true. Indian Muslims just hate Tarek Fatah.
The problem is that you can stop two person fighting but can't stop two communities when there are mutiple voices and lack of understanding. And with the involvement of politics it becomes even harder. If Left brigade needs to malign RSS for thier political reasons they do it by maligning Hinduism, which polarises Hindus and then the cycle continues. It all comes down to who started first.
Presuming the news is true, it clearly says there was altercation because he called two guys 'Pakistani' and 'khalistani'.
Which is understandable because in India word 'Pakistani' is considered a gaali (cussword). {I mean seriously}
Why are Pakistanis here celebrating that word 'Pakistani' is considered as cussword?
That's what I read in Harbir Singh share (your quoted post above) and many others. So seems like either they are Hindus or other side, the subject is Tarek Fateh who is causing the real damage. Simply, remove him from the event and you wouldn't see any scuffle at all. so the thing is, it is actually back firing what many Indian Activists/NaMO's followers mostly, were rejoicing upon malign campaign of Fateh's hate against Pakistan that actually turns into something harmful for India itself and such cycle may continue due to India's own feed, the Fateh I mean which is going to prove that why most of the Pakistanis did not tolerate him being a cause of chaos and anarchy in society.
First of all no one takes Tarek Fatah seriously in India and he can't divide Pakistan just by giving lectures so you shouldn't worry either . What happened in Punjab University, their politics aside, a person will always defend a known friend from an outsider irrespective of religion, it happens everywhere. And people involved were from youth Congress, which is known for showing themselves secular and proving others communal, so it was a great opportunity for them anyways. But this trait of speaking up for the other, unfortunately is not present in Muslims, whether Indian Muslims speaking up for others or Pakistanis speaking up against terror attacks in India. At best they do is keep silent, as we saw from Pakistani actors. The reason behind this silence is that they feel they are underdogs, Muslims in India are minority and Pakistanis are outnumbered by Indians, hence the justification of not being vocal against the atrocities on the other but are always craving for the sympathy. This shows just how powerful religion is and to what extend it can change perspectives. Otherwise why would a Muslim convert in Kashmir would want to secede.That's what I read in Harbir Singh share (your quoted post above) and many others. So seems like either they are Hindus or other side, the subject is Tarek Fateh who is causing the real damage. Simply, remove him from the event and you wouldn't see any scuffle at all. so the thing is, it is actually back firing what many Indian Activists/NaMO's followers mostly, were rejoicing upon malign campaign of Fateh's hate against Pakistan that actually turns into something harmful for India itself and such cycle may continue due to India's own feed, the Fateh I mean which is going to prove that why most of the Pakistanis did not tolerate him being a cause of chaos and anarchy in society.
First of all no one takes Tarek Fatah seriously in India and he can't divide Pakistan just by giving lectures so you shouldn't worry either . What happened in Punjab University, their politics aside, a person will always defend a known friend from an outsider irrespective of religion, it happens everywhere. And people involved were from youth Congress, which is known for showing themselves secular and proving others communal, so it was a great opportunity for them anyways. But this trait of speaking up for the other, unfortunately is not present in Muslims, whether Indian Muslims speaking up for others or Pakistanis speaking up against terror attacks in India. At best they do is keep silent, as we saw from Pakistani actors. The reason behind this silence is that they feel they are underdogs, Muslims in India are minority and Pakistanis are outnumbered by Indians, hence the justification of not being vocal against the atrocities on the other but are always craving for the sympathy. This shows just how powerful religion is and to what extend it can change perspectives. Otherwise why would a Muslim convert in Kashmir would want to secede.