Tamil leader becomes opposition leader in Sri Lanka

[Gibbs]

Did not know that. Useful to know and I will keep this in mind. I will observe this thread for now since I dont' know much about the internal politics. Both you and Heinz are having a very good interesting debate and I am learning quite a lot. Please continue.

We both have strong opinions on the most issues, But i respect him for his forthright ways of putting across his opinion.. End of the day we both are interested in whats best for Sri Lanka

 

[Nilgiri]

We both have strong opinions on the most issues, But i respect him for his forthright ways of putting across his opinion.. End of the day we both are interested in whats best for Sri Lanka

Yah I can see that. After all, something like this will be going on within SL politics for many years to come, it will not be easy but it is very important.

I am just glad the civil war is over and the only active "war" that is going on is in the political sphere....it is only natural I guess given the craziness and brutality of that conflict....but I know Sri Lankans will resolve their differences peacefully. I am interested to see how they do this.

 

[I spikes therefore I am]

Yah I can see that. After all, something like this will be going on within SL politics for many years to come, it will not be easy but it is very important.

I am just glad the civil war is over and the only active "war" that is going on is in the political sphere....it is only natural I guess given the craziness and brutality of that conflict....but I know Sri Lankans will resolve their differences peacefully. I am interested to see how they do this.

I agree with @HeinzG to some extent, a protracted conflict ends up costing more lives in the long run.

Sometimes you just have to go in and end it, once and for all. I will give Rajapaksa credit for that. I am saying this as a Tamil (from India).

Similar to Churchill, he was a good war president for SL. Similar to Churchill he also had some popularity after the war....but lost crucial elections because people don't like the domestic side of his rule for whatever reason. Rajapaksa family became too corrupt (like outrightly), he made too many political enemies, angered too many common folk as well and we have the inevitable result because of that.

I for one wish TNA would put up a leader that is not separatist. With the prevailing mood of jointly taking the country forward and reconciliation etc...it bodes badly for the stability I think...all it needs is one political flare up somewhere.

I mean there are active separatists in parliament here in Canada, who have had links to the terrorist days of the free quebec movement...and still actively say they want Quebec to be free (similar to SNP in Britain)....but I personally feel TNA can be playing this situation better given the terrible civil war was not so long ago and is still fresh in peoples heads.

But then again we have the argument that for them to have legitimacy, all views must be heard so that the most meaningful compromises can be made for SL to remain united and move forward in all fronts.

Are you really Tamizhlan??? you keeping Veerpandiya kattaboman in your avathar shame on you.

 

[Nilgiri]

Are you really Tamizhlan??? you keeping Veerpandiya kattaboman in your avathar shame on you.

What are you? Some LTTE fan? Learn to look at a conflict from other side sometimes too.....or stay under your ignorance.....doesn't matter.

 

[HeinzG]

There are many federal parties in the world and one in Sri Lanka pushing for federalism will not change anything.
The time for a federal solution has ended.

Sri Lanka will never federalize its just Bullsh*t MR spewed on stage to create fear and get votes among the rural and uneducated folks
There are much more things you fail to see

TNA calls for federalism

The Tamil National Alliance (TNA), in its manifesto, has renewed its call for the right to self-determination, the re-merger of the northern and eastern provinces, and devolution of power over various subjects — including land and law and order — within a federal framework.
However, the party says it should be done within a united and undivided Sri Lanka.

The TNA also calls for the recognition of the Northern and Eastern Provinces as the ‘historical habitation of the Tamil people and the Tamil-speaking people.’

TNA calls for federalism : mirrorcitizen.lk

Whose bullsh*ting now mate.

 

[I spikes therefore I am]

What are you? Some LTTE fan? Learn to look at a conflict from other side sometimes too.....or stay under your ignorance.....doesn't matter.

Nan oru tanmana tamizhlan ,Am not an ignorant , other side we have to look??? . So you know everything? haaaa!!!! whats your age???.

 

[HeinzG]

Mr.Sambandan on the other hand is a politician who never took up arms, Thats where the hypocrisy comes in from the nay sayers, Who are mostly Rajapaksa regime supporters

Karuna and Pilleyan has never asked for federalism for Tamil people. Haven't they?

 

[Godman]

TNA calls for federalism : mirrorcitizen.lk

Whose bullsh*ting now mate.

Do I have to say the same thing again and again?
I said there are so many federalist parties in the world and having one in Sri Lanka will not change anything.

Even your Mahinda wanted to continue negotiations with the LTTE and he supported the Federal idea once as well.

I said "The time for a federal solution has ended.".
The idea of a federal Sri Lanka was proposed as an end to the war and now the war has ended

Mahinda was bullshi*ting in stage throughout the elections spreading false fears and lies, he said Sri Lanka would be federalized and divided if the UNP won. He even said that apoplexy will need Visa to travel to the north
And to make more lies he even said that even water will be taxed if the UNP won etc etc.

It looks like you have eaten everything he said and vomiting it in here.

I have said it several times you are just repeating the same thing over and over

 

[HeinzG]

Are RW and Sirisena in favour of federalism?

I don't think its a good idea...not so soon after the war anyways.

SL needs to get to 10k per capita income at least...then it can see if people are in favour of federalism then.

I will be watching SL politics with more interest now for sure.

Can't say just now. TNA has already stated that they are for a federal solution. RW has already stated that he will go as far as he can to devolve the power central gov. posses. I dunno how far will he go. It's still a doubt. But looking at the RW's track record it is easy to suspect that he would go as far as federalism, taken into account that there is no one now to stop him. Not even the president Siriesna.

Sirisena on the other hand is a mere puppet wavering from side to side. Nothing much to be expected from him.

Do I have to say the same thing again and again?
I said there are so many federalist parties in the world and having one in Sri Lanka will not change anything.

Even your Mahinda wanted to continue negotiations with the LTTE and he supported the Federal idea once as well.

I said "The time for a federal solution has ended.".
The idea of a federal Sri Lanka was proposed as an end to the war and now the war has ended

Mahinda was bullshi*ting in stage throughout the elections spreading false fears and lies, he said Sri Lanka would be federalized and divided if the UNP won. He even said that apoplexy will need Visa to travel to the north
And to make more lies he even said that even water will be taxed if the UNP won etc etc.

It looks like you have eaten everything he said and vomiting it in here.

I have said it several times you are just repeating the same thing over and over

How can you say "The time for a federal solution has ended." when current opposition leader's party manifesto clearly states they want a federal solution.

AFAIK, West is more sympathetic towards TNA rather than to SLG.

Isn't there anything not to worry?

Not sure if anyone said anything about MR not developing Sri Lanka? every damn Dictator developed there countries first and used it to justify themselves as they increased their powers ,removed limits

Removed limits and asked for people's mandate. What other "dictator" did just that?

You people have enough demonized that good man. IMHO RW is the real dictator we have seen in recent times. You will see his real insights in very near future. Then you might agree with me.

If you are not blind and deaf feel free to go and speak to anyone in the Sri Lankan airlines how MR's brother in law destroyed it.

Yes I agree that he destroyed it. But is that a valid reason to topple a government that had develop Sri Lanka more than the then previous governments.

Building useless infrastructure projects like Mattala airport increasing GDP but when debt starts piling up on a loss making venture that is destroying Sri Lanka. Sri Lanka's "prosperity" is not different from the prosperous days of Greece.
It is illusion that people will only realize when the country is in chaos.

Don't talk about Mattla like that. It seems you now nothing about Mattala other than what UNP poster boys are uttering.

The country was clearly doing down and there were signs right in front of your eyes.

As I said before there is no point in talking about this, you will not accept that Mahinda was bad until you see what would have happened to Sri Lanka if he stayed in power

What are the signs that show SL was going down. I have said to you earlier all the indicators at that time showed SL progressing towards upper middle level country.

 

[samv]

Other way is to get these people sitting in the extremes to the middle, Make then responsible, Give them no option to keep those extreme ideologies and to get rid of them in order to survive in the mainstreamr

LMAO. Then make the BBS the leader of the opposition and get them "sitting in the middle." See how that works out.

 

[Post Colonnial]

It was a all out war. In all out wars people are get killed. Nevertheless SLA and SLG didn't use excessive force even when it was necessary to do it. The Best example was at the Nanthikadal. There were more than 1 lax of civilians trapped inside LTTE's last stronghold. SLA could have used heavy weapons on them. Instead it used it's precious commandos and SF units.

SL armed forces tried their best to protect the civilians. Some civilians died with LTTE but many more survived.

Why don't you people don't talk about the survivors? Why hanging on to the deceased?

because it is the duty of the government of SL as much to protect the Tamil civilians as it is to eradicate terrorism - tamil or Singalese. So when atrocities are committed or alleged by somebody as credible as the CM of one of your provinces, the least that should be done is an investigation.

 

[HeinzG]

because it is the duty of the government of SL as much to protect the Tamil civilians as it is to eradicate terrorism - tamil or Singalese. So when atrocities are committed or alleged by somebody as credible as the CM of one of your provinces, the least that should be done is an investigation.

No need to investigate. There are Sinhalese causalities also. But Sinhalese don't push for an investigation. Investigations will only reopen old wounds. Tamils should do just the same.

 

[Post Colonnial]

No need to investigate. There are Sinhalese causalities also. But Sinhalese don't push for an investigation. Investigations will only reopen old wounds. Tamils should do just the same.

It is the scale of casualties.
But more importantly, this kind of ethnic enmity does not go away unless the country faces up to it, opens the wound up and treats it. Otherwise, just shutting it all in just makes it fester and makes it worse in future.

 

[HeinzG]

It is the scale of casualties.
But more importantly, this kind of ethnic enmity does not go away unless the country faces up to it, opens the wound up and treats it. Otherwise, just shutting it all in just makes it fester and makes it worse in future.

No we don't open old wound just for the sake of satisfying egos.

 

[Post Colonnial]

No we don't open old wound just for the sake of satisfying egos.

I hope for the sake of Srilanka and ALL its people, that I am wrong and that it is only an old wound that heals and not festers. Best wishes.