Again, the problem is that there is only one source claiming that the Deputy FM made that statement, no one else, not the multiple journalists apparently there, not the Russian government, not the industry vendors, not the Russian body actually involved in negotiating overseas arms sales? Just an alleged statement conveyed to us by one source? That's insufficient authenticity, and that's not something anyone should use in order assess whether something of this nature is actually happening or not.
You have neither, the laugh is on you.
And Russia sold Mi35 after that so.....?
Back to CAPS again to shout your opinion? You're really pushing it.
My thoughts exactly and thank you for sharing it bro. It makes since that China is quite possibly the reason behind the negotiations for Su-35. In the short-term this platform has the best potential to be the most cost-effective game changer which will boost PAF's capabilities and projection of air cover over Pakistan and in the Arabian Sea region considerably. It's time for PAF to come out of the shadow and flex some muscle.
No not yet but it'll be interesting to see what comes up next re: Su-35.
Dear Master pseudo-scholar,
i would be honest with u.. i really have no inclination to read ur long devoted comment. simply because i have no motivation left to argue with somebody who as too much time at hand and is interisically a hypocrite of the high order.
You told me to stick to the thread, and i replied to you ONLY because i wanted to put my point accross.
Now, u are just trying to induce me to troll like u.
This is NO WHERE related to the tread. so i wont bother to reply, just as i didnt bother to read ur detailed analysis.
Happy trolling!
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I see, you never went through the post that completely destroyed your point of "fan boys posting their random wish lists" -- while you retaliate based off the way I called out your "writing papers" "for professors" "who prefer all CAPS" tirade etc. which was a part of the same post you claimed you never went through .....
I'm among the biggest skeptics of this so called "sale" -- yet your point is totally bonkers .. you say there is no official word ... Doesn't a "Deputy Foreign minister" count as an official word ??--
http://idrw.org/russia-pakistan-holding-talks-on-sale-of-su-35-confirms-russian-deputy-foreign-minister/
Or maybe an Indian based website quoting the same thing ... Does that counts as an "official word" now ?? ---
What I find the funniest is the attitude of "ohh Russia won't do it to us" "We won't let them" -- Guess what -- It already has! -- When you decide to diversify your suppliers from Russian to the west ... infact you go to US, someone Russia considers as a rival if not an outright adversary --- The result will simply be along the lines of ... "you reap what you sow ..."
So while this deal may never happen -- It's a clear direction of what is to follow ... India has become a victim of its own games ... where it brings in huge orders and tries to block a mutual supplier from trying to do business with Pakistan, example being the MMRCA and the cancellation of the JFT upgrades ... or putting pressure on Russia not to sell us equipment---
The end result today is ... your MMRCA is falling apart where talks are now reserved to 1/3rd of the original strength planned for induction ... We've all seen the time limits of 1 month, 10 days etc. and it turns out-- the MMRCA deal even for the cut short deal will take alot longer then expected ... and the French have you by the balls ... where one day they are not satisfied by HAL, and on the other day are talking about re-opening the deal for JFT upgrades ---
The same being case with the Russians, where you tried to block the supply for RD-93 ... which did not work btw as 55 JFT's are in service with RD_93's and talks for an upgraded RD-93 in 2018 if the need is felt for block III to have a new upgraded engine ... The fact that we have been given the nod to buy the J-10's with Russian AL-31's after the speculation was "we can only get J-10 if Chinese get their WS-10 operational on J-10 and the engine satisfies the credentials of PAF" and now the talks for SU-35 being revealed by the Russian officials..... This may not signify a deal .. but does signify the fact that India may have business with Russia ... but when India can go and purchase from a rival i.e USA .. then Russia also reserves the same right of not protecting Indian interests and dealing with an arch rival of India's ..
Lastly, when you talk of the monetary issues, you should remember what the current fuss about arming PAF with a heavy fighter is all about ... it's about giving an aerial arm to the PN and protecting Chinese investment in CPEC ... So it is not merely the need of PAF, it's also a Chinese need to protect their investment ... Hence you may not see a deal just yet ... but with the way talks are progressing where former officials holding high posts are agreeing with the need being created for a heavy fighter with CPEC .. you never know ...
Hey,
i refused to read after the first few lines.. think what ever u want to .. i figured that all that time u "invested", was again trying to induce me to troll with personal & COMPLETELY OFF TOPIC stuff. .. and since it does not add to the forum's needs.
U are Again ignored.
thanks soo much for wasting your time on a comment i Never bothered to read past the first 2 lines!
PS: if u have something related to topic, then drop the gimmick and write JUST that.or il have to start reporting ur comments.. thought i'd give u a heads up.
Cheers
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i am agree with you thatr SU 35 is a great coice for PAF, PAF needs such birds to tackle MIGs of india.
