Talks for Su-35, Mi-35 sales to Pakistan are underway: Russian Deputy FM

[abdulbarijan]

oh dear, so desperate for flankers

too bad you're not getting any, deal with it.

Brings back old memories of trolls that said the same about RD-93 .. turns out we have 60 JFT's operational with the same engine we were "never getting because of the Indian influence" ...

The reality of the situation is Pakistan needs a strike platform for CPEC/EEZ .. that doesn't mean it has to be the SU-35.. It certainly would be in contention though .. however .. it could be another solution altogether ... as of right now the priorities include the JFT and replacing the old platforms from our fleet ...

and while you talk of things "never happening" do remember that the gesture was made BY THE RUSSIANS .. when RUSSIAN Deputy FM told about the consideration of SU-35 ... it was Sputnik another RUSSIAN based magazine that first termed PAF as a potential customer of the SU-35...You shouldn't be talking of Pakistan's "desperation" when all the initial suggestions/comments came from the RUSSIAN side ... However the desperation of Indian fanboys in trying to prove to nobody but themselves that such a deal "will never happen" is amusing ...one which we're more then happy to deal with ..

 

[Hammad ur Rehman]

Russia has already given a draft agreement for purchase of Su-35s to Pakistan & PAF is evaluating it & other options & will soon decide. Perhaps they will start with a squadron of 18 & then add more for total 4-5 squadrons gradually.

When India can buy from every where then Russia can also sell to anyone irregardless of the strategic agreement between them which I believe does not say that they cannot sell to Pakistan. It was Russia itself which had restrained not to sell to Pakistan but geo-politics changes & it will happen soon.

The reason for initial wpould be finance & to see maintainance issues as IAF has a very poor record & availability is around 60% or even less. Besides HAL's build quality is very poor. Even a plane's canopy cannot fit into another plane without some alteration what to talk about other critical parts.

So don't worry it is coming unless PAF has other alternatives.

 

[syed_yusuf]

Russia has already given a draft agreement for purchase of Su-35s to Pakistan & PAF is evaluating it & other options & will soon decide. Perhaps they will start with a squadron of 18 & then add more for total 4-5 squadrons gradually.

When India can buy from every where then Russia can also sell to anyone irregardless of the strategic agreement between them which I believe does not say that they cannot sell to Pakistan. It was Russia itself which had restrained not to sell to Pakistan but geo-politics changes & it will happen soon.

The reason for initial wpould be finance & to see maintainance issues as IAF has a very poor record & availability is around 60% or even less. Besides HAL's build quality is very poor. Even a plane's canopy cannot fit into another plane without some alteration what to talk about other critical parts.

So don't worry it is coming unless PAF has other alternatives.

How authentic this news is?

 

[batmannow]

PAF have exactly 0% chance of buying su 35

& you have -0000% knowledge about it ?lolzz

 

[Beast]

Russia has already given a draft agreement for purchase of Su-35s to Pakistan & PAF is evaluating it & other options & will soon decide. Perhaps they will start with a squadron of 18 & then add more for total 4-5 squadrons gradually.

When India can buy from every where then Russia can also sell to anyone irregardless of the strategic agreement between them which I believe does not say that they cannot sell to Pakistan. It was Russia itself which had restrained not to sell to Pakistan but geo-politics changes & it will happen soon.

The reason for initial wpould be finance & to see maintainance issues as IAF has a very poor record & availability is around 60% or even less. Besides HAL's build quality is very poor. Even a plane's canopy cannot fit into another plane without some alteration what to talk about other critical parts.

So don't worry it is coming unless PAF has other alternatives.

PAF already bought 24 of Su-35.

Russia, China sign contract worth over $2 billion for Su-35 fighter jets

These Su-35 will be transfer from China to PAF in the pretense of China selling to PAF which fault will not lies on Russia.

 

[Basel]

PAF already bought 24 of Su-35.

Russia, China sign contract worth over $2 billion for Su-35 fighter jets

These Su-35 will be transfer from China to PAF in the pretense of China selling to PAF which fault will not lies on Russia.

What??? :-O

When did that happened?? Any source??

 

[Muhammad Omar]

PAF already bought 24 of Su-35.

Russia, China sign contract worth over $2 billion for Su-35 fighter jets

These Su-35 will be transfer from China to PAF in the pretense of China selling to PAF which fault will not lies on Russia.

Are you serious sir?

 

[Beast]

Are you serious sir?

These kind of under table deal, and you expect an official comfirmation from Russian and Chinese?

Russian want to push all blames on Chinese and Indian can't say a thing on Chinese since China need not answer to India.

Remember RD-93 engine for JF-17? China as middleman for PAF.

 

[Muhammad Omar]

These kind of under table deal, and you expect an official comfirmation from Russian and Chinese?

Russian want to push all blames on Chinese and Indian can't say a thing on Chinese since China need not answer to India.

Remember RD-93 engine for JF-17? China as middleman for PAF.

Nah i know this will happen.. China will buy Su-35 and later will be given to PAF ... by doing that India will have no objections against Russians ....

 

[syed_yusuf]

Nah i know this will happen.. China will buy Su-35 and later will be given to PAF ... by doing that India will have no objections against Russians ....

This is all speculation - this will not happen. Su-35 carries among other things most advance Russian engine

 

[ArsalanKhan21]

This is all speculation - this will not happen. Su-35 carries among other things most advance Russian engine

I would say it is very possible that Russia would agree to sell Su-35 to Pakistan.

 

[batmannow]

I would say it is very possible that Russia would agree to sell Su-35 to Pakistan.

Still possible ?even after their DFM openly said it ?still having doubts ?my god !

 

[ArsalanKhan21]

Still possible ?even after their DFM openly said it ?still having doubts ?my god !

They sold S-300 to Iran but never delivered.

 

[batmannow]

This is all speculation - this will not happen. Su-35 carries among other things most advance Russian engine

Stop living in your dam world of denial & read that its been stated by their own DFM , so stop your doubts in your mind ?

They sold S-300 to Iran but never delivered.

They sold rd-93 & its been in the skies ?

& Iranian s got that ,s-300 thing in different style or model , which will be showen later claiming to be made in Iran ?
job done !

 

[Hammad ur Rehman]

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Pakistan-Russia Relationship – Closing in on Su-35 and Mi-35s Delivery
Mi-35, Pakistan, Russia, Su-35

Pakistan-Russia relationship is set to grow with talks about delivery Mi-35M helicopters and Su-35 fighter jets continues. This comes from the Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov. Earlier in this year, Moscow sent a draft contract to Islamabad regarding the delivery of four Mi-35M ‘Hind E’ combat helicopters and Sukhoi Su-35 fighter jets. It would seem that the draft contract has been bumped up a level considering the talks being held, as we speak, regarding the delivery of said machines. These helicopters and fighter jets would become a valuable to addition to Pakistan’s growing air force.


SU-35
Pak-Russia relationship have not always been one to be proud of, however, lately, the two countries are warming up to each other. In November 2014, Moscow and Islamabad were able to sign a landmark defense operation agreement. This agreement will allow exchange of information on political and military issues, extend cooperation between the two for promoting international security, intensify counter-terrorism and arms-control activities, strengthen collaboration between Pakistan and Russia on various fields including military, education, medicine, and hydrography, and increase cooperation on peacekeeping operations. While no actual deal was signed at this moment for trade of military equipment, this deal would provide the platform for Pak-Russia relationship to grow and enhance.

Mi-35M Attack Helicopter
As far as the deal of fighter jets and helicopters goes, the Russian deputy Foreign Minister was noted to have said:
I do not think that the contacts under discussion will cause jealousy on the part of any of the two sides.
He was referring to India and Pakistan. Military cooperation between Pakistan and Russia will not impact Moscow’s relationship with New Delhi. He also mentioned that Pak-Russia relationship is improving in other sectors such as energy. As far as India being jealous or concerned goes, India has frequently been involved in military purchases with Russia including 20 Mi-35s not so long ago. In comparison, four attack helicopters of the same kind, should not be an issue. However, it the deal has significance when it comes to creating ties with countries other than China. The deal involving Su-35s and Mi-35s is a major one, and hopefully just a stepping stone to greater deals between Islamabad and Moscow.

Click the links for more information on Mi-35M Attack Helicopter and Su-35 Fighter Jet directly from the manufacturer’s website.
We will keep you updated on the delivery of the jets and helicopters, meanwhile, tell us what you think about Pak-Russia relationship, and how it can improve. Do you think Pakistan should purchase more equipment from Russia? Do you think reverse-engineering is a good idea, in order to establish indigenous manufacturing plants?