Taliban using scopes with guns

[TaimiKhan]

Saddam admitted himself before he died that he purposely led the intelligence agencies of the world to believe that he had WMD because he was afraid of Iran. He wanted Iran to think twice about attacking him.

 

[H2O3C4Nitrogen]

Saddam admitted himself before he died that he purposely led the intelligence agencies of the world to believe that he had WMD because he was afraid of Iran. He wanted Iran to think twice about attacking him.

and the world powers were stupid enough to belive him that he has wmds so his country should be attacked.
WMDS is the reason why such a tiny little island called North Korea is not attacked by the world powers even though it challanges them quit often.

I have came acroos many but this one is Hillarious

Hatts Off

 

[alirulesall123]

and the world powers were stupid enough to belive him that he has wmds so his country should be attacked.
WMDS is the reason why such a tiny little island called North Korea is not attacked by the world powers even though it challanges them quit often.

I have came acroos many but this one is Hillarious

Hatts Off

I agree with you, but North Korea isn't an island...

 

[iPhone]

Saddam admitted himself before he died that he purposely led the intelligence agencies of the world to believe that he had WMD because he was afraid of Iran. He wanted Iran to think twice about attacking him.

lol so that means tomorrow if any nations asshole leader/dictator claims he has WMD they should be invaded. Iraq was a personal agenda of Bush, admit the truth, get it through your head, learn to live with it.

 

[Thomas]

lol so that means tomorrow if any nations asshole leader/dictator claims he has WMD they should be invaded. Iraq was a personal agenda of Bush, admit the truth, get it through your head, learn to live with it.

If they already have a history of using WMD against others including their own people. Then yes.......... that is what makes the difference. The reason the world is so against Iran having a nuke is because of their stated goal of wiping certain nations off the face of the earth. North Korea was able to get the nukes before the world realized they had them. Now that they have them it has to be handled differently. Laugh all you want but that doesn't mean what I am saying has no truth in it. If Pakistan or India behaved like Iran or North Korea does the world would be against them as well having Nukes. However they don't have stated goals of wiping nations off the face of the earth. Or leaders that are borderline psychotics. Saddam was a megalomaniac with a past WMD capability and USED THEM.

Let me ask you how would Pakistan respond if Israel stated they wanted to wipe you off the face of the earth? Or should the world wait till they actually fire nukes at you before doing something?

 

[Ratus Ratus]

Forget Iraq and WMD, Iran and North Korea, they are all red herrings in the discussion. Serve nothing but a poor attempt to detract from the real the argument.
Indicates a weak argument point.


Great Idea, let the Taliban take back Afghanistan. Let them bring back their concepts of Sharia law, stop females going to school and getting an education, increase women’s medical problems, and allow them to run a country where the majority of people don’t want them.

Ok save me the crap that they don’t want the US and NATO, they don’t want the Taliban either. But forget that it is only the people they don’t count anyway. DO they?

You all think that the proposed good Taliban will just pack up and move back to Afghanistan. Oh delusion runs rampant doesn’t it! They will not go anywhere but right where they are currently sitting, that is in Pakistan.

Many here were happy when the TTP managed to get Sharia law introduced into Swat. All things were going to be resolved. The Taliban were going to just stay in Swat and behave.
I said they won’t. They did not just stay put they decided to expand their territory. This I did predict.
As many know they were not even wanted by the local villages.

Let the Taliban have Afghanistan, then you will see then denounce the Afghan-Pakistan border, The disputed Durand Line demand control of FATA, NWFP and Balochistan. Why not they live there already and they are still there and they are not moving.

Pakistan could not even resolve the border when the Taliban was in power. Don’t expect them to accept it now either. Besides they are already in FATA, NWFP and Balochistan. They have part won this battle of ownership.
And you are all happy about it.

Yes back the Taliban and see how they repay you. It will not be what you expect or want.

Disagree if you want, but prove that I am wrong. You can not.

Good luck as you will need it.

 

[Durran3]

lol when was the last time Taliban ever came up with something constructive? They don't have a proper system of governance, they have no educational institutions to allow students to excel in todays world, they don't have proper medical facilities or are able to produce a proper working class environment. They don't have any forms of entertainment and leisure facilities.. so if you want to live like a human i suggest you not take their side

 

[MastanKhan]

Saddam admitted himself before he died that he purposely led the intelligence agencies of the world to believe that he had WMD because he was afraid of Iran. He wanted Iran to think twice about attacking him.

Hi,

after years of hanging him---his words are of the holy book now---he never led intelligence agencies anywhere---he was setup---

All biological propduction equipment has serial numbers---from pippettes to beakers and rest of the stuff---the israeli stated before the war that none of the serial numbers were missing anywhere in the world---it was a setup---to what end---just the right wing christian conspiracy---war in the middle east---when the israelis will over power the nation of arabs---the christ will come back.

The deception is a master piece.

 

[Conscientious objector]

If they already have a history of using WMD against others including their own people.

Who is it that supplied Saddam with chemical weapons? The U.S that's who.Which nation is the only one to have ever used nuclear weapons against another? That's right you guessed it it the U.S again.

The reason the world is so against Iran having a nuke is because of their stated goal of wiping certain nations off the face of the earth.

This so called stated goal allegation that we've heard so much about for the past few years is based on what?

Or leaders that are borderline psychotics. Saddam was a megalomaniac with a past WMD capability and USED THEM.

Saddam was an ally of the US they supplied him with weapons no end
cant you see the hypocrisy?

Let me ask you how would Pakistan respond if Israel stated they wanted to wipe you off the face of the earth? Or should the world wait till they actually fire nukes at you before doing something?

Israel has wiped the land off Palestine off the map, what is the U.S doing about that? Aiding and abetting Israel that's what




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[pakomar]

There is difference between terrorist and the Muslims fighting for freedom for their country.
What happening in Pakistan in the name of Taliban are not the real Taliban .Taliban fighting in Pakistan are fighting for power. Taliban’s in Pakistan their objective is to destabilize Pakistan and to create bad name for real Taliban jihad and Muslims. We all Pakistani know who is funding Pakistan Taliban to kill Pakistani people and why.

If a Muslim boy studies Quran in madras he is called terrorist and a western boy study in university is called student why?
When western armies invade a Muslim country they are called freedom fighters but when the Muslims defend its own country they are called terrorist. Why

 

[Thomas]

Hi,

In the end---they will. Time and tide is against the u s of a. Bad war---bad strategy---bad execution---.

Time will tell....at least Pakistan is coming to it's senses and realizing the danger the Taliban pose to it's existence. for all you pious Muslims. (pious meaning reverence and devotion) when you agree with and support the Taliban. You are in effect agreeing with their extreme form of Islam. the killing and maiming of young girls simply for going to school. Using unwitting children as suicide bombers. Assassinating tribal elders that disagree with them. Using civilians as human shields as they are currently in Pakistan.

Yes those are certainly people to look up to and hold as heroes, and emulate as some on this forum seem to like to do.

 

[Thomas]

Who is it that supplied Saddam with chemical weapons? The U.S that's who.Which nation is the only one to have ever used nuclear weapons against another? That's right you guessed it it the U.S again.



This so called stated goal allegation that we've heard so much about for the past few years is based on what?

4mScWWtRfGQ[/media] - Ahmadinejad DID NOT threaten to "wipe Israel off the map."




Saddam was an ally of the US they supplied him with weapons no end
cant you see the hypocrisy?

oTldYbqlJc8[/media] - Rumsfeld & Saddam Make Nice





Israel has wiped the land off Palestine off the map, what is the U.S doing about that? Aiding and abetting Israel that's what




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Really the subject of Palestine and Israel belongs on a different thread. As well as much of the recent responses do as well. we have traveled a long ways from the subject of snipers to now. We can go around in circles talking about who's land is Palestine, 1948, Jerusalem, the Arab League, or creation of a Palestinian state. The Palestinians can have peace with Israel. And have their own state in the process. However the Palestinians need to get their act together. Right now they are divided. The majority under the leadership of the PLO want to make peace with Israel and achieve a Palestinian state. A minority of the Palestinian people (but have waged a civil war against the PLO) want peace only as a result of driving Israel into the Sea.

Your statement of Israel wanting to destroy the Palestinians has no basis in truth at all. And has more to do with Muslim propaganda. Also keep this in mind. As Muslims do you not agree that no nation on the face of the earth can be established without Gods Approval? Nor may any nation fall without the same? Israel was a nation that after 2000 years of exile by the Romans returned to reclaim their country. Which by the way was what the 3rd time in history for them?

 

[Conscientious objector]

Really the subject of Palestine and Israel belongs on a different thread.

You brought the subject up

We can go around in circles talking about who's land is Palestine,

No need t go around in circles Palestine belongs to the Palestinians,whats so difficult to understand?

1948, Jerusalem, the Arab League, or creation of a Palestinian state.

WHAT?

The Palestinians can have peace with Israel. And have their own state in the process

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Well its easy for you to say, but when you have a nation under siege as the Palestinians are, when you have the Israeli's brutally occupying Palestine,when you have millions of Palestinian refugees living in squalid camps does it really make sense/is it just to put the onus on the Palestinians to make peace?

However the Palestinians need to get their act together. Right now they are divided. The majority under the leadership of the PLO want to make peace with Israel and achieve a Palestinian state. A minority of the Palestinian people (but have waged a civil war against the PLO) want peace only as a result of driving Israel into the Sea.

Do you know anything/has your media told you anything about what the Zionists want to do with Palestine?

The outcome of the present Zionist atrocities unleashed on the Gaza strip will ultimately end in legitimizing the mass killings of Palestinian civilians that also include children and women. The fault as noted earlier lies with the Palestinians for they are nameless, stateless and thus without any rights. The stateless person does not actually exist. For the Zionists and their benefactors to actually not allow the Palestinians to resist, to fight and claim the land that was stolen from them, to besmirch their resistance and to attach to their resistance the label of terrorism is the ultimate victory of the Israeli state. From all this, the ultimate victory will only belong to Israel, for in essence, what Israel is fighting for is an extreme ideology, in which God has been given a role too. From a secular democracy to a theological ideology, everything is immersed in an identity that claims a threat to its existence from a people sandwiched between an artificially progressive Arab states, progress based on desert mirages and that of Israel, a mini America, God's promised land, sponsored by right wing ideologues and their war machines.

Your statement of Israel wanting to destroy the Palestinians has no basis in truth at all. And has more to do with Muslim propaganda.

Rather than being a mere wish of the Israelis it is something they have actually endeavored to carry out and have to a large extent been successful all under the watchful eye of its facilitator the U.S of A

Take a look at this map it shows how Palestine has been eroded over the years

Also keep this in mind. As Muslims do you not agree that no nation on the face of the earth can be established without Gods Approval?

Evil happens all the time, God allows it to happen but that does not mean that God approves of it.God does not approve of it.

Nor may any nation fall without the same?

Again nothing happens without God's will but because God allows certain things to happen does not mean God approves of them.

Israel was a nation that after 2000 years of exile by the Romans returned to reclaim their country. Which by the way was what the 3rd time in history for them?

So that means you would support the right of the native Americans to reclaim the land you call home and exile you as a refugee.

 

[Thomas]

You brought the subject up



No need t go around in circles Palestine belongs to the Palestinians,whats so difficult to understand?



WHAT?

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Well its easy for you to say, but when you have a nation under siege as the Palestinians are, when you have the Israeli's brutally occupying Palestine,when you have millions of Palestinian refugees living in squalid camps does it really make sense/is it just to put the onus on the Palestinians to make peace?



Do you know anything/has your media told you anything about what the Zionists want to do with Palestine?





Rather than being a mere wish of the Israelis it is something they have actually endeavored to carry out and have to a large extent been successful all under the watchful eye of its facilitator the U.S of A

Take a look at this map it shows how Palestine has been eroded over the years

Evil happens all the time, God allows it to happen but that does not mean that God approves of it.God does not approve of it.



Again nothing happens without God's will but because God allows certain things to happen does not mean God approves of them.





So that means you would support the right of the native Americans to reclaim the land you call home and exile you as a refugee.

I didn't bring Palestine up first. I responded to why why the world reacts the way they do to countries seeking WMD. the response brought up Palestine.

These are some of the statements attributed to Ahmadinejad.

1.) While speaking at a gathering of foreign guests marking the 19th anniversary of the death of Iran's late revolutionary leader, Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, the official IRNA news agency quoted Ahmadinejad as stating that

"You should know that the criminal and terrorist Zionist regime which has 60 years of plundering, aggression and crimes in its file has reached the end of its work and will soon disappear off the geographical scene."


2.) Oct 26, 2005 (World without Zionism Conference) "Our dear Imam (referring to Ayatollah Khomeini ) said that the occupying regime must be wiped off the map and this was a very wise statement. We cannot compromise over the issue of Palestine. Is it possible to create a new front in the heart of an old front. This would be a defeat and whoever accepts the legitimacy of this regime has in fact, signed the defeat of the Islamic world. Our dear Imam targeted the heart of the world oppressor in his struggle, meaning the occupying regime. I have no doubt that the new wave that has started in Palestine, and we witness it in the Islamic world too, will eliminate this disgraceful stain from the Islamic world."

Thankfully not all share this view:

Saeb Erekat , the chief Palestinian negotiator and member of the Palestinian Legislative Council , stated: "Palestinians recognize the right of the state of Israel to exist and I reject his comments. What we need to be talking about is adding the state of Palestine to the map, and not wiping Israel from the map."

The siege of the Palestinians: The Palestinians at one time traveled freely between the territories and Israel. However when the time came to implement the Oslo peace accords which both sides agreed to. Arafat decided to try and squeeze more concessions from Israel through the Intifada. This however had the opposite effect and hardened Israeli positions. Israel sealed off the territories. It also had the effect of bringing more public support for Hamas who with financial support from Iran and training from Hezbollah started social programs to attract support and followers. Eventually Hamas became political and won a majority of seats in the Palestinian legislator. The people were fed up with the corruption within the PLO Government. This created a power struggle that culminated with with a de-facto civil war that divided Gaza and the West Bank. One side wants to negotiate peace the other side wants peace only through destroying Israel. both claim to be the Palestinian representative. Don't think there will ever be a solution with that scenario.

As far as the Indians. I am an American Indian and with the exception of a small minority. We do not want to go back to the old ways. as a people you have to adapt and grow with the times rather then live in the past. The trick is to balance that without losing your cultural heritage. The problem with Islam that I see is there are several factions within it that fight against each other for control. Without going into each separate faction and their beliefs. You basically have traditionalists, secularists, and Conservatives, and extreme conservatives (Islamic Fascists, I.E. Taliban). Most religions have these factions within them. The latter of these factions are usually the most vocal and militant because they feel it is the only way to be heard, seen, and get their way.