Taking away Muslim Land via tweet.

[jamahir]

Why believe only NATO.. there have been enough of press about this... But what is the point you are trying to make - that he is not a tyrant?

Again, you should ask yourself : who is it who says Assad is a tyrant.

This is the ninth year of the Syrian war. Would Dr. Assad have been the President if the Syrian patriotic not liked him for so long ??

or that I am reading the wrong news and should listen to Russian TV?

You have been believing the wrong info. You should read from press agencies like Sputnik or Pravda, and watch Syria-battle vids from ANNA news agency. ANNA reporters are embedded with the Syria soldiers.

 

[mastaan]

The Argument is Golan heights is Syrian Land and not Israeli land. So how Assad fits into this equation? Has any one stopped USA from fighting Assad? Nope. So lets roll back to Golan and Israeli issue.

But what is Syria? You can't have a fight or a question between a real and a virtual entity.
Asad is the ruler of that nation and either he is representing its people or not.
Who stops anyone from annexing anyone;s land? the armies of the country being annexed.
Who did jack about crimea? So was crimea a part of ukraine or russia? This conjecture of ownership in absence of ownership is meaningless. we can have an emotional debate about it, feel good or bad about it - reality is - the American will rules the middle east!

Again, you should ask yourself : who is it who says Assad is a tyrant.

This is the ninth year of the Syrian war. Would Dr. Assad have been the President if the Syrian patriotic not liked him for so long ??

You have been believing the wrong info. You should read from press agencies like Sputnik or Pravda, and watch Syria-battle vids from ANNA news agency. ANNA reporters are embedded with the Syria soldiers.

Who was Gaddafi, who was saddam? What separated them from any of the middle east dictators? If so many liked this guy, why were there celebrations when separation forces entered their territories.

It is rather simplistic to say - just because a sect likes him, he becomes the savior.

This is the entire mindset that has kept the middle east so backward. Sects fighting sects and families that run countries without being accountable for it.

He let Daesh grow in his backyard - for me; just that is enough for this guy to be treated like a criminal.

 

[BHarwana]

But what is Syria? You can't have a fight or a question between a real and a virtual entity.
Asad is the ruler of that nation and either he is representing its people or not.
Who stops anyone from annexing anyone;s land? the armies of the country being annexed.
Who did jack about crimea? So was crimea a part of ukraine or russia? This conjecture of ownership in absence of ownership is meaningless. we can have an emotional debate about it, feel good or bad about it - reality is - the American will rules the middle east!

The reality is not what you consider the reality is. The reality is the actual reality. I fail to understand why are you so focused on reality here? UN and no nation in the world has recognized Golan as part of Israel. So how is the reality what you say is the reality?

 

[mastaan]

The reality is not what you consider the reality is. The reality is the actual reality. I fail to understand why are you so focused on reality here? UN and no nation in the world has recognized Golan as part of Israel. So how is the reality what you say is the reality?

Because, I do large projects for a living and have been involved in a large industrial project which will bear the name of destination as Israel and it will be installed in golan heights and will be funded by world bank. This project will pay taxes in Israel, will have european and world bank technical dilligence done on it and stamped for financability. You want to contest that, i will deeply respect you for that and will debate you. If not, then you tell me, what else should matter in defining boundaries, if international finance does not define it clearly.

I am focused on reality that the world finances - i don't waste my time on UN and what it says - It is an arm chair critic organization, that has never censured anyone powerful.

 

[jamahir]

Who was Gaddafi

Gaddafi was a philosopher whose output was the Third Universal Theory or the Jamahiriya Theory whose name forms my user-name.

who was saddam?

Saddam no doubt was a leader whose style of work can be criticized ( for example the Kuwait invasion ) and indeed was recognized as such by Gaddafi in this speech. The speech contains other things too. Do listen.

 

[SubWater]

And Arabs are silent and even some Arabs leader like MBS support this annexation.

 

[Nein]

We can all thank Hafez Al Assad for being a pussy for not taking back the Golan Heights.

 

[Tom M]

Gaddafi was a philosopher whose output was the Third Universal Theory or the Jamahiriya Theory whose name forms my user-name.



Saddam no doubt was a leader whose style of work can be criticized ( for example the Kuwait invasion ) and indeed was recognized as such by Gaddafi in this speech. The speech contains other things too. Do listen.

Ironically both of them very killed by their own citizens. Must be some very good reason behind that.

 

[jamahir]

Ironically both of them very killed by their own citizens. Must be some very good reason behind that.

Know what ?? The hands that killed those two, those hands were guided by foreigners.

 

[Tom M]

Know what ?? The hands that killed those two, those hands were guided by foreigners.

Yet, the hands were very much local, which says that there were a large group ready to fight the ruling government if enough support is available by any means.

Now like @Imran Khan is saying, show me a democracy where such external interference had lead to a bloody civil war within a country to overthrow the government through violant means atleast during the last 5 decades ?? I bet you won't be able to show a single one.

yes I do is there anything wrong with it?
in this world for one that is kosher is haram for other

Sorry I didn't understand a thing from your final statement. But your whole message is somewhat clear to me.

So I really appreciate your hope. But sadly it's far from reality.

 

[Ceylal]

War for the Golan heights soon...

Syria needs to invade and occupy Saudi Arabia and UAE and exchange them for the Golan...Trump is doing whatever he wants to do in the Middle East, because of the Sauds and the UAE are behind it...

 

[jamahir]

Yet, the hands were very much local, which says that there were a large group ready to fight the ruling government if enough support is available by any means.

The LIFG group, later melding into the al-Qaeda branch for Africa, had most of its fighters being Libyan but were they good for Libya ??

What is the condition in Libya now ?? Are they enjoying the prosperity as before 2011 ??

Now like @Imran Khan is saying, show me a democracy where such external interference had lead to a bloody civil war within a country to overthrow the government through violant means atleast during the last 5 decades ?? I bet you won't be able to show a single one.

But the point is that countries like India and Pakistan are not the targets of external ( NATO ) conspiracies precisely because these governments are not socialist.

Let India elect Kanhaiya Kumar as the PM and you will see how NATO will create mischief here.

We are presently seeing the interference of NATO in Venezuela.

 

[Ceylal]

MUSLIMS NEED TO QUIT GOING TO THE HADJ AND OMRA TO PUNISH THE SAUDS FOR THEIR EVIL DOING ! MUSLIMS NEED ALSO FOMENT CHSNGES IN THESE TWO COUNTRIES AND HELP THE SAUDS AND THE EMIRATIS GET RID OF THEIR RULING FAMILY.

 

[Imran Khan]

Yet, the hands were very much local, which says that there were a large group ready to fight the ruling government if enough support is available by any means.

Now like @Imran Khan is saying, show me a democracy where such external interference had lead to a bloody civil war within a country to overthrow the government through violant means atleast during the last 5 decades ?? I bet you won't be able to show a single one.



Sorry I didn't understand a thing from your final statement. But your whole message is somewhat clear to me.

So I really appreciate your hope. But sadly it's far from reality.

my people failed to understand its very hard for a country to grab its land if the country is democratic a country velue human life a country with rule of law and respect international laws too . they keep blaming west .

 

[Tom M]

my people failed to understand its very hard for a country to grab its land if the country is democratic a country velue human life a country with rule of law and respect international laws too . they keep blaming west .

Maybe True. I don't say the west or anyone else involved are all saints. Of course they will try and exploit the weaknesses in any country.

But I personally think that these so called Arab and Islamic nations had done more harm to themselves than anyone else from outside.