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NOVEMBER 24, 2018 / 9:25 PM / UPDATED 11 MINUTES AGO
Taiwan president resigns as ruling party chairwoman after election defeats

TAIPEI (Reuters) - Taiwan President Tsai Ing-wen said on Saturday she was resigning as chairwoman of the ruling Democratic Progressive Party after mayoral election defeats.

Tsai also told a news conference that she had not accepted the resignation of her premier, William Lai, who had offered to quit earlier in the evening.

Reporting by Jess Macy Yu; Writing by Ben Blanchard;

Taiwan president resigns as ruling party chairwoman after election defeats | Reuters
 
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Taiwan ruling party suffers major defeat in local elections
By RALPH JENNINGS
an hour ago

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Taiwanese President Tsai Ing-wen waits to cast her ballot at a polling station, Saturday, Nov. 24, 2018, in Taipei, Taiwan. Taiwanese began voting in midterm local elections Saturday seen as a referendum on the independence-leaning administration of President Tsai, amid growing pressure from the island's powerful rival China. (Chang Haoan/ Pool Photo via AP)

TAIPEI, Taiwan (AP) — Taiwan’s ruling party suffered a major defeat in local elections Saturday seen as a referendum on the administration of the island’s independence-leaning president amid growing economic and political pressure from China.

President Tsai Ing-wen’s Democratic Progressive Party lost the mayoral election to the Nationalist party in the southern port city of Kaohsiung, where the DPP had held power for 20 years. The Nationalists also defeated the DPP in the central city of Taichung, while Ko Wen-je, the independent mayor of Taipei, the capital, appeared on track to win a second term.

Tsai and the DPP had won a landslide victory in 2016, but China swiftly responded by cutting all links with her government. Beijing has been ratcheting up pressure on the island it claims as its own territory by poaching away its diplomatic partners, cutting official contacts and staging threatening military exercises.

The Nationalists, known also as the KMT, had campaigned on their pro-business image and more accommodating line toward Beijing.

Since her election in 2016, Tsai has walked a fine line on relations with China, maintaining Taiwan’s de facto independent status that the vast majority of Taiwanese support, while avoiding calls from the more radical elements of her party for moves to declare formal separation from the mainland.

Taiwanese officials had warned that Beijing was seeking to sway voters through the spread of disinformation online similar to how Russia was accused of interfering in U.S. elections.

Chiang Kai-shek’s Nationalists rebased their government to Taiwan in 1949 amid the civil war with Mao Zedong’s Communists. They ruled under martial law until the late 1980s when the native Taiwanese population began to take political office, mostly through the DPP.


Taiwan ruling party suffers major defeat in local elections | APNews

Taiwan's ruling party faces major defeat in key elections
24 Nov 2018 09:22PM

TAIPEI: Taiwan's pro-independence ruling Democratic Progressive Party (DPP) on Saturday took a huge hit in mid-term local elections on Saturday (Nov 24), a significant blow to President Tsai Ing-wen as the Beijing-friendly opposition made gains in the face of China's increasing pressure on the island.

Taiwan is still awaiting the result of a closely watched referendum on gay marriage, with activists fearing a win for conservative "pro-family" campaigners could turn back the clock on the island's reputation as a trailblazer for marriage equality.

Tsai and DPP)have faced a mounting backlash over domestic reforms and concerns about deteriorating ties with China, which still sees self-ruling Taiwan as part of its territory to be reunified.

The main opposition Kuomintang party (KMT), which oversaw an unprecedented thaw with Beijing before Tsai took office in 2016, has declared victory in 15 of 22 city and county seats, up from just six going into the election.

The DPP, which went into the election with 13 seats, has declared victory in only six and has lost its traditional stronghold in Kaohsiung city for the first time in 20 years.

Beijing has intensified pressure on Taiwan under Tsai, upping military drills, poaching diplomatic allies and successfully convincing international businesses to list Taiwan as part of China on their websites.

The DPP is traditionally pro-independence and Tsai has refused to acknowledge Beijing's stance that Taiwan is part of "one China", unlike her KMT predecessor Ma Ying-jeou.

Ahead of the vote, Tsai and DPP officials repeatedly said they believed China has meddled in the lead-up to the elections through a "fake news" campaign, which Beijing has denied.

The KMT - which lost the leadership and its majority in parliament two years ago as the public feared it had moved too close to Beijing - framed the election as a vote of no confidence in Tsai, with promises to boost the economy and improve relations once more with China.

Some traditionally pro-DPP groups said before the election that they wanted to punish the party as their businesses had taken a hit from cross-strait tensions.

GAY RIGHTS CLASH

Votes in 10 referendums which were also on the ballot paper were still being counted late Saturday and include pro- and anti-gay marriage votes.

A landmark court decision legalising gay marriage is still to be implemented and LGBT groups are concerned a referendum win for conservative campaigners could limit their newly won rights.

"Pro-family" groups have put forward a referendum calling for marriage to be legally defined as between a man and a woman and for same-sex unions to be governed by a separate law.

Voters faced lengthy queues as they dealt with complex ballots which also included a referendum on a bid to change the name under which Taiwan competes at international sports events that has already angered China.

College student Kwan Chin-shun, 18, voting in Taipei, said she supported equal marriage rights.

"There's nothing wrong with loving someone of the same sex," she told AFP.

Others said they sided with "pro-family" groups.

"The purpose of getting married is to have children and Taiwan's birthrate is already one of the world's lowest. Gay people can have relationships like heterosexual couples, but they don't have to get married," said a female voter who gave her name as Bai.

The referendums come as an extra headache for Tsai and the DPP.

Tsai had framed the local elections as a way to "tell the world" that Taiwan would not bow to Beijing, calling called China's pressure "omnipresent" and has said Taiwan's democracy was faced with a crisis due to "outside forces".

Social media posts said to be "fake news" have included photos of discarded bananas and pineapples which were framed as proof the government did not care about farmers, as well as posts which suggested Taiwan had failed to get its citizens out of Japan after a typhoon - a senior Taiwan official in Osaka committed suicide after the reports.

Taiwan's Investigation Bureau also said it is probing Chinese influence on the elections through campaign funding of candidates.

Source: AFP/gs

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/new...-faces-major-defeat-in-key-elections-10965410
 
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The time will come to reclaim Taiwan, likely in Xi's time.

这台湾问题已经拖延了超过半个世纪。如果不尽快收复这片宝岛,身为华夏九州领导人的习近平又怎么对得起列祖列宗?

我看只有习近平才有实力与坚持决心来办这件事。毛泽东,邓小平,江泽民和胡锦涛全都一拖再拖地把难事交给后代来处理。如习近平也这么想又把台湾问题推给后代,那我看问题永远都解决不了。

The time will come to reclaim Taiwan, likely in Xi's time.

这台湾问题已经拖延了超过半个世纪。如果不尽快收复这片宝岛,身为华夏九州领导人的习近平又怎么对得起列祖列宗?

我看只有习近平才有实力与坚持决心来办这件事。邓小平,江泽民,胡锦涛全都一拖再拖地把难事交给后代来处理。如习近平也这么想又把台湾问题推给后代,那我看问题永远都解决不了。
李光耀曾说过台独是不可能发生的:

http://www.singapore-window.org/sw00/000531a1.htm

https://asia.nikkei.com/Politics/Who-s-right-the-late-Lee-Kuan-Yew-or-Taiwanese

中国拼了老命跟老美搞核武战争也得把台湾收复。
 
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中國國民黨China Nationalist Party (KMT) wins Gaoxiong City which has been under DPP rule for nearly 30 years!

The mayor elect is of Henan Province origin, from a military family.
Pro 1992-conensus, pro one China policy, pro cross-strait cooperation.
 
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中國國民黨China Nationalist Party (KMT) wins Gaoxiong City which has been under DPP rule for nearly 30 years!

The mayor elect is of Henan Province origin, from a military family.
Pro 1992-conensus, pro one China policy, pro cross-strait cooperation.
Family origins mean nothing. Tsai is a Hakka with ancestral links to Meizhou in Guangdong haha.
 
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中國國民黨China Nationalist Party (KMT) wins Gaoxiong City which has been under DPP rule for nearly 30 years!

The mayor elect is of Henan Province origin, from a military family.
Pro 1992-conensus, pro one China policy, pro cross-strait cooperation.

中國國民黨China Nationalist Party (KMT) also have a Big win in Kaoshiung City, one of base voters for DPP.

What a Big Win for China Nationalist Party (KMT), Pro One-China base, and Pro Unification in this election.

Congrats for this good development !
@TaiShang @AndrewJin @Stranagor @long_
 
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in less than 5 years, we will get taiwan back!
Hopefully.

I see a habitual pattern of procrastination here.

I forgot where i read it from, but there was an article in chinese that quoted deng xiaoping as stating to leave the Taiwan problem to future generations.

Every leader will say the same 'lets leave solving the problem to my successor'. Taiwan will never be recovered this way.

Theres a phrase in Chinese:

''if i dont enter hell, while you also dont wanna enter hell- then who's going to enter hell?

Heaven is full. Somebody has to enter hell.

Hopefully Xi will bite the root of his teeth and solve it within his tenure, no matter how hard it is.
 
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Hopefully.

I see a habitual pattern of procrastination here.

I forgot where i read it from, but there was an article in chinese that quoted deng xiaoping as stating to leave the Taiwan problem to future generations.

Every leader will say the same 'lets leave solving the problem to my successor'. Taiwan will never be recovered this way.

Theres a phrase in Chinese:

''if i dont enter hell, while you also dont wanna enter hell- then who's going to enter hell?

Heaven is full. Somebody has to enter hell.

Hopefully Xi will bite the root of his teeth and solve it within his tenure, no matter how hard it is.

The problem is that the alternative is very difficult. Beating the Taiwanese armed forces is not going to be the problem, the problem is what to do afterwards.

People are still hoping for a "Hong Kong handover" type situation, where the territory can be recovered without bloodshed. But the truth is the only reason that Britain agreed to the handover is because they knew they could not be able to stop the Mainland from taking it back by force.

Waiting serves a good purpose, and that purpose is to build up China's military strength to a point where the Taiwanese armed forces will prefer to defect over to the Mainland side (like what happened with Crimea and Ukraine) or even surrender outright. Resulting in less bloodshed overall.

At the end of the day Taiwan must be reclaimed, however the time frame is up for debate. What is united will eventually divide, and what is divided must eventually unite. The cycle of history continues regardless.
 
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The problem is that the alternative is very difficult. Beating the Taiwanese armed forces is not going to be the problem, the problem is what to do afterwards.

People are still hoping for a "Hong Kong handover" type situation, where the territory can be recovered without bloodshed. But the truth is the only reason that Britain agreed to the handover is because they knew they could not be able to stop the Mainland from taking it back by force.

Waiting serves a good purpose, and that purpose is to build up China's military strength to a point where the Taiwanese armed forces will prefer to defect over to the Mainland side (like what happened with Crimea and Ukraine) or even surrender outright. Resulting in less bloodshed overall.

At the end of the day Taiwan must be reclaimed, however the time frame is up for debate. What is united will eventually divide, and what is divided must eventually unite. The cycle of history continues regardless.
I say more than likely if Xi doesnt solves it, the status quo continues for the next 50years, maybe even 100years- and thats what the taiwanese prefers, not reunification nor independance.
 
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The problem is that the alternative is very difficult. Beating the Taiwanese armed forces is not going to be the problem, the problem is what to do afterwards.

People are still hoping for a "Hong Kong handover" type situation, where the territory can be recovered without bloodshed. But the truth is the only reason that Britain agreed to the handover is because they knew they could not be able to stop the Mainland from taking it back by force.

Waiting serves a good purpose, and that purpose is to build up China's military strength to a point where the Taiwanese armed forces will prefer to defect over to the Mainland side (like what happened with Crimea and Ukraine) or even surrender outright. Resulting in less bloodshed overall.

At the end of the day Taiwan must be reclaimed, however the time frame is up for debate. What is united will eventually divide, and what is divided must eventually unite. The cycle of history continues regardless.

Trust me, many taiwanese soldier has no will to fight PLA.

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asia/taiwan-youth-military-service-china-tension-10873554

For Taiwan youth, military service is a hard sell despite China tension


in less than 5 years, we will get taiwan back!
5 years time is a good timing. Cos China maybe too big or strong for USN to get involved.. And what will be the response of USN? Fight PLA directly and start WWIII or armageddon with the possible of using nuke against each other just for a non american province? Even economic sanction sounds impossible as many US Chinese import are essential items and not luxury goods.
 
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Trust me, many taiwanese soldier has no will to fight PLA.

I know for sure that many Taiwanese will defect to the Mainland side immediately just like what happened with Crimea and Ukraine. Certain death at the hands of their fellow Chinese is not something they will be interested in, since they know there is zero chance of winning against the Chinese military.

I say more than likely if Xi doesnt solves it, the status quo continues- and thats what the taiwanese prefers, not reunification nor independance.

China needs a strong and stable economy (that is resistant to any international sanctions) and an overwhelmingly powerful military.

While the USA is getting much weaker (the trade war and the Iran sanctions for example) they will still do everything they can to hurt China's economy after we take action to reclaim Taiwan. While China is already quite resistant to sanctions (as proven already), there are still some weak spots remaining, because China is still a developing economy. We need to plug these gaps further. Better to win the victory first, before starting the fight.
 
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Trust me, many taiwanese soldier has no will to fight PLA.
Imagine if taiwan is recovered, all the gdp she is spending on her military would have gone to further develop her(which would have then become china's) semiconductor and computer hardware industries

I know this myself personally because im a PC geek.

My gpu, motherboard = MSI 2080 gaming x trio n z390 gaming pro carbon ac, and MSI is a taiwanese company. Nvidia is founded by a taiwanese.

Chasis, liquid cooler, fans, PSU =Coolermaster, which is also a taiwanese company

Ram= G.skill, yet another taiwanese co.
 
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I know for sure that many Taiwanese will defect to the Mainland side immediately just like what happened with Crimea and Ukraine. Certain death at the hands of their fellow Chinese is not something they will be interested in, since they know there is zero chance of winning against the Chinese military.

Precisely, in the 60s many believe PRC China is bad becos of massive famine and terrible living condition of Mao's cultural revolution. Many Taiwanese will fight to the end to stop communist takeover of them. But now in 2018, many taiwanese has witness the growth and stability of PRC China. Chinese citizen livelihood are getting so good that some area even surpass them. Standard of living is getting better everyday. Many taiwanese felt if let PRC rules over them is not the end of the world. Why bother spend your live resist it?
 
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