Taiwan bound to join TPP: Taiwan's envoy to US

[Aepsilons]

Asia Financial Crisis during 1997 should be a huge lesson for Asia counties including Korea, Hongkong and ASEAN members. Wealth accumulated in those countries during tens of years could be easily wiped off even one night.

East Asian financial institutions had incurred a significant amount of external liquid liabilities that were not entirely backed by liquid assets, making them vulnerable to panics. As a result of this maturity transformation, some otherwise solvent financial institutions may indeed have been rendered insolvent because they were unable to deal with the sudden interruption in the international flow of funds. Unfortunately , during that time, there was lack in risk management processes. I think that has changed significantly.

 

[大汉奸柳传志]

I thought Taiwan is not allowed to negotiate trade deals like TPP on its own. just search "The Separate Customs Territory of Taiwan, Penghu, Kinmen and Matsu" and WTO.

Is that because nothing to lose??

This sums it up perfectly. In Vietnam‘s case joining the TPP is really a move out of desperation.

 

[Indos]

Japan willing to support Taiwan joining TPP talks｜WCT

Our handsome and influential darling, Mr. Shinjiro Koizumi...

Asian lack influential young leader, most of them are just above 50 and 60.

Tony Blair can become party leader in his 41 years old.

 

[DaiViet]

That is what I saying. Even for Japan, such a developed country, there is something for them to worry. I just don't understand the point of view of Vietnam for TPP


I like BUSH, and Trump too.

Lets see what kind of progress those countries could make on the meeting in Atlanta now. BTW, I feel so Weird... I found that Vietnam is the most ambitious country toward reaching TPP agreement while she is the most undeveloped country among the current negotiating members.

Is that because nothing to lose??

Good question! Have you looked at EU-Vietnam FTA? and Eurasia-Vietnam FTA. Simply Vietnam takes every opportunity it could get to leverage its economy. Vietnam top economic ministry said in an interview at this globalization age, you dont want to be left behind. Search for Bui Quang Vinh economic interview he lead Vietnam Tpp negotiation.

First comes first serves, Malaysia market is not bigger than Indonesia nor does it holds any strategic location anyway and it joined even at later date after Vietnam.

 

[William Hung]

The Greater Japanese-Taiwanese Cooperative Paradigm,

Of course they are. Don't you know that Taiwan's President Ma is a personal friend of former Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi? He is like a god-father to Koizumi's (the elder) son --- Shinjiro Koizumi. Mind you Koizumi is an LDP member, like his father. And Ma is KMT.

LOL!

Japanese-Taiwanese Politics --- my specialty...

Wow impressive! They are good role models for everyone in Asia to follow. I wish VN-CN relationship could be like the JP-TW relationship.

Lets see what kind of progress those countries could make on the meeting in Atlanta now. BTW, I feel so Weird... I found that Vietnam is the most ambitious country toward reaching TPP agreement while she is the most undeveloped country among the current negotiating members.

Is that because nothing to lose??

You seem to be saying that TPP is going to be bad for VN, but can you provide credible economic forecasts to show how bad it is going to be for VN after the TPP?

Lots of Chinese PDF members seem to say similar things, but funny I can’t ever find a single Chinese member who could give a report and economic forecasts from credible sources to prove their point of how bad the economy of VN is going to be after TPP.

Another funny thing is that a lot of stuff on TPP negotiation are not made public yet. They are only known to the negotiators and TPP country leaders, yet some Chinese members who have hardly any info about the negotiation seems to think that they know more about the TPP negotiation than the negotiators/leaders. . Funny isn’t it? guys who don’t fully know whats being dicussed in TPP negotiation are trying to say they have better judgement and info about the TPP than the negotiators themselves.

So, I will still wait for your economic report and forecasts from credible sources on how bad the Vietnamese economy is going to get hit after TPP. I will also wait for you to show the details and documents of what is being discussed behind closed doors...because it seems like you are thinking you know more about the TPP negotiation than the negotiators themselves.

 

[biendong]

Wow impressive! They are good role models for everyone in Asia to follow. I wish VN-CN relationship could be like the JP-TW relationship.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Who cares?

Taiwan now can kiss good bye about their annual 100 billion trade surplus from China.

 

[windywine]

Another funny thing is that a lot of stuff on TPP negotiation are not made public yet.

Off course No details have been released for Public because there is any deal reached yet. You can find online about those major issues of TPP they are negotiating: Automotive's, dairy, the patents for pharmaceuticals and also the issue of tobacco....

, but funny I can’t ever find a single Chinese member who could give a report and economic forecasts from credible sources to prove their point of how bad the economy of VN is going to be after TPP.

These research should have be done by Vietnamese. Two simple questions: How VN in the current stage competes with other countries without certain protection? Has VN established a comprehensive regulation on financial market yet?

 

[William Hung]

Off course No details have been released for Public because there is any deal reached yet. You can find online about those major issues of TPP they are negotiating: Automotive's, dairy, the patents for pharmaceuticals and also the issue of tobacco....

Come on man, post some reports and forecasts specifically for Vietnam, don’t just tell me to look for it myself. You have specifically singled out Vietnam, so back up what you said with reports and forecasts specifically for VN.

Most of the issues discussed out there relates to other countries, automotives issue with JP-US, diary with NZ-Canada, etc...

I want you to post specifc economic forecast reports to show how bad it would be specifically for Vietnam. For example, do you know how much various types of medicine costs and how accessible they are now for the average Vietnamese (I’m betting you dont know this), and the differences after TPP get signed?

So back up what you’ve said with credible sources.

These research should have be done by Vietnamese. Two simple questions: How VN in the current stage competes with other countries without certain protection? Has VN established a comprehensive regulation on financial market yet?

And who said the Vietnamese negotiators, leaders and economists haven’t done their research? Do you have any evidence and proofs that they have done zero research?

I’m asking you for your reports and analysis specifically for VN because you have made some claims about VN so now you need to back it up with credible sources or analysis.

As for those two questions, it is you who need to answer it here. I havent made any claim in this thread yet...it is you who have done so, implying TPP would be bad for VN, etc. I was only questioning your claims so it is you who have to answer those kind of questions to back up your claims.

So please, back up your claims.

 

[windywine]

’m asking you for your reports and analysis specifically for VN because you have made some claims about VN so now you need to back it up with credible sources or analysis.

Dude, You can't read, can you? Vietnamese negotiators, leaders and economists have done their research? You read them?? Then tell you do those analysis answer my questions: How VN in the current stage competes with other countries without certain protection? Has VN established a comprehensive regulation on financial market yet?

I just simply put my questions about TPP for VN. If VN government thought no problem for them, totally OK to me. I don't think the debate on PDF could change anything.
BTW if you find some reports about VN is ready for TPP, could you send me please? I really want to see how VN will handle those challenges.

 

[Aepsilons]

Who cares?

Taiwan now can kiss good bye about their annual 100 billion trade surplus from China.

They can earn an additional 120 billion in trade with Japan, U.S., Canada, Australia, and partners. Besides , i truly doubt there will be a halt in Beijing's trade relations with Taipei even if Taipei is included into the TPP.

Dude, You can't read, can you? Vietnamese negotiators, leaders and economists have done their research? You read them?? Then tell you do those analysis answer my questions: How VN in the current stage competes with other countries without certain protection? Has VN established a comprehensive regulation on financial market yet?

I just simply put my questions about TPP for VN. If VN government thought no problem for them, totally OK to me. I don't think the debate on PDF could change anything.
BTW if you find some reports about VN is ready for TPP, could you send me please? I really want to see how VN will handle those challenges.

Let's allow Vietnam's trade representatives to do their job, first. I think we, as civilian observers, can only speculate and our speculation may or may not be resemblant to the on-ground processes. Tho your concern for Vietnam is legitimate, I think the Vietnamese have every right to remain positive since the TPP would open so much investment opportunities for their country --- clearly it will be one of the beneficiaries of this trade paradigm. In fact, I'm quite surprised why Thailand has yet to join --- how unfortunate.

 

[windywine]

Most of the issues discussed out there relates to other countries, automotives issue with JP-US, diary with NZ-Canada, etc...

Now You just somehow got my point. Every stakeholder in TPP are debating and fighting for their own interest, except VN. That makes me feel weird. You got it??

 

[William Hung]

Dude, You can't read, can you? Vietnamese negotiators, leaders and economists have done their research? You read them?? Then tell you do those analysis answer my questions: How VN in the current stage competes with other countries without certain protection? Has VN established a comprehensive regulation on financial market yet?

Do you even know the basic procedure for a debate?

It is simple like this: you make a claim, you back it up with credible sources or good supporting analysis/arguments.

It is you who have made claims here, implying TPP would be bad for VN, etc. So it is YOU who need to provide credible sources and analysis for your claims.

I don’t have to provide anything since all I’m doing is to ask you to provide those to support your claims.

Its like writing a college research essay. You make a thesis or claim in your essay, then must back it up with proper sources and analysis. You can’t just flip it around, like you are trying to do here, and ask the essay marker or readers to provide answers related to your own thesis. That is YOUR job, you understand? You make a claim, then YOU need to back it up.

So you must first understand this basic and simple procedure of a debate, understand?

 

[windywine]

Let's allow Vietnam's trade representatives to do their job, first

?? Dude, just a debate on PDF. Allow vietnam's trade representatives to do their job? Man. Suddenly I feel like a superman

 

[William Hung]

Now You just somehow got my point. Every stakeholder in TPP are debating and fighting for their own interest, except VN. That makes me feel weird. You got it??

And how do you know the VN negotiators are not fighting for their own interest? the negotiation is secret, were you there inside the negotiation room to see that VN are not fighting for their own interest? You got it?